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    Thread: The 'official' running thread.

    1. 06-06-2012 03:33 PM #2926
      Ran the Ojai 2 Ocean Marathon Sunday in absolutely perfect weather. The course was nice, the scenery was great and the course was mostly downhill. Even though I didnt properly train for this race, got no sleep the night before and bashed my knee into a table the morning of I ended up with a time of 3:38:54 (a PR of 1:24). I didnt get many long runs in this training cycle and it shows big time around mile 21-22, a big difference from my last marathon where I faded very little in the end.

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      06-07-2012 10:36 AM #2927
      Last night I decided to try barefoot running, when I run with shoes on I typically end up with either knee or shin pain. So, after reading a bunch I decided to try barefoot running on the treadmill.

      While it felt very weird at first, and I only managed to run a mile, I did end up with no knee or shin pain. However, I did end up getting a sharp pain in the arch of my left foot, and some soreness in my left calf muscle. Is that simply from me using different muscles than when running with shoes on?

      I did notice that if I went back to how I run with shoes on, that I was hitting the treadmill much harder, and I could feel myself hitting more flat footed. When running barefoot I was trying to make sure I would strike with the ball of my foot/toes and my heel barely touched the surface.

      So, are my pains to be expected from making the switch due to me having to adjust my stride? The sharp pain in the arch of my foot disappeared instantly once I stopped, my calf feels a little sore this morning.

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      06-07-2012 12:11 PM #2928
      Sounds like the arch pain was from toe/ball striking and not leaning forward slightly.

      Newton Running Shoes on Youtube has some really good tutorials on proper running form depending on how your foot strikes the ground.

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      06-07-2012 01:05 PM #2929
      Quote Originally Posted by 4-Dr-W-a-T View Post
      Sounds like the arch pain was from toe/ball striking and not leaning forward slightly.
      Thanks, I had read that when running barefoot to lean forward slightly, anytime I tried it though it felt very weird, probably more so on the treadmill than outside.

      Quote Originally Posted by 4-Dr-W-a-T View Post
      Newton Running Shoes on Youtube has some really good tutorials on proper running form depending on how your foot strikes the ground.
      Will definitely check those out.
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      06-07-2012 01:53 PM #2930
      The running store I train through had the Newton reps out a little while ago for a natural running seminar. Cool folks. They also suggested we check out http://naturalrunningcenter.com/ lots of great info there.

      I just ordered a pair of Newton's (they didn't have my size in stock). Can't wait to get them.
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      06-07-2012 07:04 PM #2931
      Just pick up a pair of asic Cumulus 13's yesterday, decided to break them in today. After 4 miles they felt great, felt like I could easily run another 4. Love the colorway of these too

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      06-07-2012 11:38 PM #2932
      Quote Originally Posted by pdoel View Post
      The running store I train through had the Newton reps out a little while ago for a natural running seminar. Cool folks. They also suggested we check out http://naturalrunningcenter.com/ lots of great info there.

      I just ordered a pair of Newton's (they didn't have my size in stock). Can't wait to get them.
      Newtons are great for training you in the forefoot form if you're new to it.

      I don't buy their whole hype about the energy returns from the bottom of the shoe and blah blah. But for learning the form, they're where it's at. You really can feel that knob under the forefoot and very quickly tell if you're landing correctly or not.
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      06-08-2012 10:26 AM #2933
      Quote Originally Posted by im easy View Post
      Just pick up a pair of asic Cumulus 13's yesterday, decided to break them in today. After 4 miles they felt great, felt like I could easily run another 4. Love the colorway of these too
      The whole summer lineup from Asics has focused on brighter, more vivid colors, combined with other bright, vivid colors. I think atfer see ing the success with the Noosa Tri series,..... they're making a smart move!

      Went to a local running store sponsored track meet last night. In high school, I ran the 1600m, that was my money maker, as I called it back then. Its been 10 years since I stepped on a track. With all of my long distance running I was doing, i was expecting a 7:00-ish time.

      I completed it in 6:03, and am looking forward to attaining my goal, sub- 6minute 1600

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      06-10-2012 01:16 PM #2934
      Sixth day back since my stress fracture. Been taking it easy, sticking with easy paced 5 mile runs. Decided I was ready to go to our Sunday morning group run this morning. Had options for 3, 6 and 10 miles. Was gonna take the 6 and 10 mile maps, just to be safe, but they strayed almost from the start, so decided for the 10. Stuck with my old pace group and had no trouble getting the 10 in, and best part, NO PAIN!

      It's damn good to be back!
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      06-10-2012 02:28 PM #2935
      So after my coyote run-in I'm looking for a folding knife, thinking Ka-bar Mule. What color tho...




      Tho this one seems to only be serrated

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      06-10-2012 02:38 PM #2936
      The second one for sure.
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      06-10-2012 02:43 PM #2937
      I notice you like green according to your sig line .

      I am leaning that way for visibility.
      I'm just a regular Joe, with a regular job. I'm your average white, suburbanite slob.

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      06-10-2012 03:38 PM #2938
      You would be correct. When I tried on shoes last weekend, the model I liked best, and thought was the best choice was red. I really had to fight hard to not buy the pair I knew was wrong, even though it matched my Beetle.
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      06-10-2012 03:49 PM #2939
      Went ahead and ordered it in zombie green.
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      06-10-2012 04:30 PM #2940
      Perfect knife in case you run into anyone while running, who just did bath salts.
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      06-11-2012 11:20 AM #2941
      My Newton's are in! Gonna run out at lunch to pick them up.

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      06-11-2012 11:44 AM #2942
      2 miles in the fives today. Breaking my body in slowly...

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      06-11-2012 11:57 AM #2943
      Quote Originally Posted by pdoel View Post
      My Newton's are in! Gonna run out at lunch to pick them up.

      What shoes did you previously own? What made you choose Newton?

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      06-11-2012 01:13 PM #2944
      I have a pair of Brooks Ghosts, and a pair of Asics.

      I like that the Newtons are a good transitional shoe to get started with barefoot running. They have different models, depending on how quickly you want to jump in. There are ones with bigger heels that are very easy to transition to, or ones that may take a few weeks, but are really built to keep you in good form. So I went with the ones more for form, than helping me transition more easily.

      I believe I already have a good stride, so shouldn't be bad.
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      06-11-2012 01:34 PM #2945
      Quote Originally Posted by pdoel View Post
      I have a pair of Brooks Ghosts, and a pair of Asics.

      I like that the Newtons are a good transitional shoe to get started with barefoot running. They have different models, depending on how quickly you want to jump in. There are ones with bigger heels that are very easy to transition to, or ones that may take a few weeks, but are really built to keep you in good form. So I went with the ones more for form, than helping me transition more easily.

      I believe I already have a good stride, so shouldn't be bad.
      Have you had a video taken of yourself running? I thought my stride was great with no pronation, mid foot strike and all. I was way off!!

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      06-11-2012 02:05 PM #2946
      No, but we have a lot of seminars and such at the store, as well as training together. So the trainers do offer tips / suggestions on form and such.
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      06-11-2012 05:50 PM #2947
      Quote Originally Posted by pdoel View Post
      No, but we have a lot of seminars and such at the store, as well as training together. So the trainers do offer tips / suggestions on form and such.
      What kind of exercises were suggested to improve form?

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      06-11-2012 06:14 PM #2948
      I've never been given exercises to do to improve my form. But there's lots of information out there about what the proper form should be. Mid-foot strike, obviously. Slight lean forward, not moving your arms to the extent where you're shifting your whole body to the right and left, etc.

      As I mentioned a few posts back, lots of great info here: www.naturalrunningcenter.com
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      06-12-2012 03:40 PM #2949
      Quote Originally Posted by jnm2.0t View Post
      So after my coyote run-in I'm looking for a folding knife, thinking Ka-bar Mule. What color tho...




      Tho this one seems to only be serrated

      If you're worried about dogs or coyotes or other biting animals don't waste your money on a knife. An animal can bite you several times in the time it takes you to cut it. A collapsible baton was also mentioned but I use one regularly and wouldn't recommend one for that purpose. Pepper spray is very effective on dogs. Much cheaper than the other options, lighter to carry and very easy to deploy. Just my $.02.

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      06-13-2012 08:59 AM #2950
      Barefoot running update.... managed to run 1.5 miles in 14 minutes last night, while not exactly fast, I am slowly increasing the distance/speed as I get more used to running with nothing on my feet. No calf or foot pain either, which was good, and I felt like I could have ran further, but did not want to push things.

      What's really cool about it, is that it really does feel more natural. The first few times I felt like I was going to fall, and it just felt really really weird. Now it feels normal, and it seems easier to run faster.

      I plan to stick with 1.5 miles this week, then increase that next week to 2 or more miles.

      I should add, this is all currently on a treadmill. When I start to run outside, I will probably pick up some shoes.
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