The 'official' running thread.

[FlashRedGLS1.8T]

No. He actually only has it for a day or two after soccer practice/games and when he was wearing his Vans shoes all day.

We bought him some Saucony running shoes and put the Vans away, that fixed the issue with the vans. From an everyday perspective.

He's still having a lot of pain after soccer.

Actually when he gets out of bed, it's not bad at all.

He has Calcaneal Apophysitis. Basically it's an inflamation of the growth plate in the heel and apparently it's common in physically active kids his age (especially soccer, basketball & gymnastics). He does soccer and muay thai, both put a lot of pressure, unpadded, to the foot and heel.

Icing it 3 times a day, 15 minutes each time.
Taking an anti-inflammatory
Inserted a gel heel cushion in all of his shoes.

If that doesn't help, he'll need to lay off soccer/muay thai until it gets better.

[Igotredcar!]

AWESOME A RUNNING THREAD!!!! I'm running my third 5K this Saturday since my first one on St. Patties! Im shooting for a new PR of <26, nothing to crazy but it be good for me. Anyone else running down here in the bay area, FL?

[pdoel]

Update. I'm out for Pittsburgh this year. After 4 weeks, I've still been struggling with my hamstring. Tried our group 15 mile run this Sunday. Gave up at 12.5, and have been limping since. Finally went to an ortho yesterday, and turns out I have a stress fracture in my hip/pelvis. Right where the hamstring attaches to the pelvis, thus why I had similar symptoms to a strained hamstring.

Had a bunch of X-rays taken, but they can't tell if this is a new fracture, or could have been there before (had same type of pains about 7-8 years ago), so waiting to get an MRI scheduled.

So a little more rest, and need to do some strength training, but hopefully won't be out too long. Then training starts for Philly!

[Igotredcar!]

That awful man! At least your getting sorted out now, hopefully it wont keep you down for to long.

I just got done signing up for the Desoto 5K, another hour and I would have been out another 5 bucks... and i need that for gas..

[Estonian]

I haven't run in a few months since school and work have been so busy but it's that time to start focusing on myself again. Bought some new shoes which will help me not get run over at night if i wear black. Saucony Progrid Kinvara 2.



I'm not a long distance runner at all, but I just want to do 10 kilometers (just over 6 miles) comfortably.

[Internal Combustion]

Ran the Louisville Marathon yesterday (for the 3rd time, 2007/2008/2012). I never trained past 16 miles (time). I was shooting for 3:40-3:45 (previous were 3:55 and 3:35) and ended up 3:52. Hit the wall at 20 after a very nice 30k of even 8:20's and then picked back up at 23. Oh well, last place > did not finish > did not start.

Major shout out to Nike Air Pegasus 28. I had some light Adidas but got a lot of blisters and bought these 8 days before the race (during a long run, ran over to the store and switched out) and had 12-14 miles in them. No blisters, plenty of cusioning. Also ran in some Balga cushioned socks.

[FlashRedGLS1.8T]

last place > did not finish > did not start

[XClayX]

Just started running, semi consistantly. Last night I did 3.6mi at 38:12min. I'm hoping to get more consistant pace wise.

[Angina]

Hey guys, I'm new to running in any type of races, and I'll be running a 10 Mile "marathon" this sunday. Anyways, I've been practicing for 2 months and have done up to 8 miles at a 8.25 min/mile pace. Should I attempt to do 10 miles a couple times before the race? Also, if I'm running 10, when should I look to increase my pace? I just ran a steady 8.5 pace the whole time during my 8 mile run and increased pace on the last 1/2 mile.

Finally, any suggestions on what to do/eat the night before the race? Should I even eat breakfast the morning of (8 am start)?

Thanks!

[SpiffyGTI]

If the race is this Sunday, I wouldn't do too much heavy running because you want to rest up and make sure you're fully healed for the race. Generally the start is pretty congested so that's usually when your slowest split will be. Just work on getting faster and faster as the race goes on. That said, don't purposefully start off slow and "save yourself" for a kick later. The night before you want to carb up so tons of pasta is the most popular dinner the night before a race. The morning of, I'd at least eat something to get in your stomach. Maybe a bagel since it's carbs and isn't some exotic food that will mess up your stomach.

[pdoel]

Typically, your race pace is going to be faster than your regular runs. For long distance races (halfs, marathons) it's rare to run the total length of the race during training. So while this isn't quite that distance, if you can run 8, you should feel absolutely confident that you'll be just fine for 10 on race day. And being that the 10 mile race is this Sunday, I would NOT try to get out there now and do a couple 10 mile runs before then. You want to get some runs in this week, but taking it a bit easier than normal. You want to get some rest so you have lots of energy for race day.

As for eating. Start some carbo loading two days before the race. Rice is great. Potatoes. Pasta, although that can be a bit heavy. As for the morning of, I always eat breakfast the morning of a race. To what extent depends on the race. At this point, the best advice is to tell you to do what you've done in the past. What do you normally do the mornings of your runs? This isn't the time to be trying something new. The last thing you want to do is eat a huge breakfast before the race, if you normally don't eat a lot, and get to mile 5 and poop your pants.

[Angina]

Typically, your race pace is going to be faster than your regular runs. For long distance races (halfs, marathons) it's rare to run the total length of the race during training. So while this isn't quite that distance, if you can run 8, you should feel absolutely confident that you'll be just fine for 10 on race day. And being that the 10 mile race is this Sunday, I would NOT try to get out there now and do a couple 10 mile runs before then. You want to get some runs in this week, but taking it a bit easier than normal. You want to get some rest so you have lots of energy for race day.

As for eating. Start some carbo loading two days before the race. Rice is great. Potatoes. Pasta, although that can be a bit heavy. As for the morning of, I always eat breakfast the morning of a race. To what extent depends on the race. At this point, the best advice is to tell you to do what you've done in the past. What do you normally do the mornings of your runs? This isn't the time to be trying something new. The last thing you want to do is eat a huge breakfast before the race, if you normally don't eat a lot, and get to mile 5 and poop your pants.

thanks that makes sense. I usually run in the afternoon around 5 PM, so I'll normally eat a salad mixed with pasta (less heavier than just plain pasta). For long runs, I'll take something called C4 (pre workout drink) 30 min before... I'm just wary of eating breakfast, and starting to cramp or poop my pants... haha.

How about hydrating? Should i drink a load of water the night before and in the morning? Im really bad at drinking water..

[Internal Combustion]

thanks that makes sense. I usually run in the afternoon around 5 PM, so I'll normally eat a salad mixed with pasta (less heavier than just plain pasta). For long runs, I'll take something called C4 (pre workout drink) 30 min before... I'm just wary of eating breakfast, and starting to cramp or poop my pants... haha.

How about hydrating? Should i drink a load of water the night before and in the morning? Im really bad at drinking water..

Honestly, I wouldn't worry too much. Do whatever you do to prepare for your 8 mile runs. Your body doesn't know the difference between 8 and 10 miles, you're still into your reserves of hepatic glycogen. My pre race breakfast is always 2 pieces of bread and gatorade. Find time to poop. If you don't have to at home, race nerves will get you and you will.

I don't know what your training schedule has been like for the 10 miler, but just taper. Today being Wednesday, I'd run today maybe 4 or 5, 3 or 4 on thursday and 5k on friday. Just do a taper and take saturday off.

[robhurlburt]

signed up for a half marathon in october. just finished my first full marathon on saturday. how long/how many miles do i need to run per week to keep a good base? I don't want to have to start form scratch like i did the marathon, but i certainly don't expect to keep the shape i am in now.

events i am also participating in to see what i will also be training for:
- warrior dash - june
- 10k and MTB race in july
- triathalon in september
- half marathon october.



results from my first full, it felt good to cross that line, but IDK if i want to do all that training again!

[XClayX]

3.6mi -- 36.44 about a 10min mile. Gettin better, I never thought I'd enjoy running, ever. I use to run a 14min mile in HS and was just dying of exhaustion...

[jollyrodgers]

3.6mi -- 36.44 about a 10min mile. Gettin better, I never thought I'd enjoy running, ever. I use to run a 14min mile in HS and was just dying of exhaustion...

pssshhh when i strated running last summer i couldnt even run a block. i wasnt fat but i had no endurence. did a 5k a couple weekends ago, was looking at doind under a half hour but came in at 27:22. doing another 5k next weekend, and then i would like to do a 10k in june.

[4-Dr-W-a-T]

Sweet! A running thread! I did a 5k last night in 24 minutes, but would like to be below a 7:00/mile pace.

I currently run 4.5-6 miles every other day, and do some swimming,but would like to see what I can do to improve. Any ideas?

[fast pug]

Ran my 2nd full marathon today in Newport Beach (scenery = ) and Costa Mesa (scenery = office parks and the concrete river path ).

Finished in 2:49:29 which was good for 8th overall and 1st place in my age group. My next full marathon is back home in San Francisco on 7/29. I really need to do some training between now and then for the hills nearly all of my local training has been relatively flat.

[kene]

Wow, Congrats, I hope to run sub 3:00 someday. Your one fast pug

Ran my 2nd full marathon today in Newport Beach (scenery = ) and Costa Mesa (scenery = office parks and the concrete river path ).

Finished in 2:49:29 which was good for 8th overall and 1st place in my age group. My next full marathon is back home in San Francisco on 7/29. I really need to do some training between now and then for the hills nearly all of my local training has been relatively flat.

[FoleE]

Did my first ever running event today, a 10k, finishing in 54.30. Really need to buy some proper running shoes pronto though.

[fast pug]

Wow, Congrats, I hope to run sub 3:00 someday.

Thanks. To go sub 3:00 I've been averaging 50 miles a week (a low mileage week may be 40-45 miles, a high mileage week around 60-65). Consistency in training is key. For my first two marathons I loosely structured my training plan around the Advanced 2 plan from Hal Higdon. For San Francisco I'm going to be using Pete Pfitzinger's 70/12 plan from his book Advanced Marathoning I highly recommend Advanced Marathoning. It is definitely worth the read.

Did my first ever running event today, a 10k, finishing in 54.30. Really need to buy some proper running shoes pronto though.

Congratulations on your first race.

Getting real running shoes is a must. Having consistent training is key. Just getting out on the road or on the trail can be a battle some days, but it's so worth it once you make running part of your life and not just something that happens occasionally.

Again congratulations.

[ModernMaven]

First full is this Sunday.

I am starting to panic because it is going to be too warm for me. Low of 62 and high of 81. My wheelhouse is 30-50 degrees.

I am going to have to readjust my strategies here. Bleh.

[superslowGTI86]

Pdoel- have you figured your your possible fracture issues yet? im curious to know what the issue is and how you are planning on handling it.

[4-Dr-W-a-T]

Excited, my first fitting for running shoes! I'd like to think Im a neutral runner (Medium arch, mild to no pronation), but I would like to know how ridiculous i look out on the streets of Santa Clarita.

Gait/Stride/Pronation analysis

Im partial to New Balance, but I'd like to see what they suggest for me. I've been eyeing the Kinvara 2 by Saucony and Pure Flow by Brooks.

[superslowGTI86]

my suggestion isnt to find a brand you like, but rather, a shoe you like. go find a nice specialized running shoe store that will measure and fit you. they'll suggest what would be best for your gait/stride/etc. most shops have a treadmill or even let you run around the building to get a feel of the shoe(most important part IMO).

[kene]

[QUOTE=DenverMINI;77369893]Thanks. To go sub 3:00 I've been averaging 50 miles a week (a low mileage week may be 40-45 miles, a high mileage week around 60-65). Consistency in training is key. For my first two marathons I loosely structured my training plan around the Advanced 2 plan from Hal Higdon. For San Francisco I'm going to be using Pete Pfitzinger's 70/12 plan from his book Advanced Marathoning I highly recommend Advanced Marathoning. It is definitely worth the read.

Ive been running a consistant 35-40 MPW but havent really been able to follow a training plan do to conflicts in scheduling (too much going on). Just ran a 3:40:18 at Hunington Beach and hope to run a 3:30 at Ojai 2 Ocean on June 2. How does Pfitz compare to Higdon? Which do you like better? I have read Higdons book.

[602crew]

I'd say to up your mileage if you plan on going sub-3:00. Also try adding in some longer speed workouts (2x3 miles, 3x2 mies, etc...) along with some longer runs at tempo pace. Last but not least, try to get in some long runs where you either run the middle miles in or finish at marathon pace.

[madisonry]

I'm excited to go through this thread. I've spent most of my life hating running, but now I'm realizing it's not so bad if I make an effort to do it right. I'm not aiming for marathons yet and haven't decided on much of a routine either, but I plan to do a 5k by June and a 10k by year's end. Both are pretty big goals for me!

I don't think I've been in this thread since I posted this over 2 years ago, but it was pretty awesome to go back and find it. I did 3 half marathons in 2011, have a long run base of at least 10 miles every Saturday morning and am running the full in Berlin this year. Gonna go pat myself on the back now.

[Wpseiler]

sweet thread!
Im totally into trail running as of 3 months ago. I long distance trail run 1-2x a week, added that to my mma training and stamina is amazing!

[JeffIsLax]

I messed up my back at the gym last week, and have taken the past week of running off as a result. I am eager to get back out there, but I don't want to go out too soon and do more damage. It feels essentially healed, I can't tell if I am more sensitive knowing that the pain was there last week, but I still feel that something is "different." I plan to go for a run tomorrow morning, hope things go smoothly!

[4-Dr-W-a-T]

Had a dissappointing run,... my slowest run in a very long time. 10:00/mile pace. I've ran faster when i was a smoker. I use to run a 6:30 mile back in Dallas when I was smoking half a pack a day.

I think it was a culmination of too much exercise on saturday, breaking in my Noosas, a bad night sleep and being a monday. Its still dissappointing for me. I hope wednesday brings better fortune for me.

[kene]

I'd say to up your mileage if you plan on going sub-3:00. Also try adding in some longer speed workouts (2x3 miles, 3x2 mies, etc...) along with some longer runs at tempo pace. Last but not least, try to get in some long runs where you either run the middle miles in or finish at marathon pace.

Thanks 602crew!
Ive been really trying to focus on my speed workouts lately because Im pressed for time. I usually do 5 milers at lunch were I like to start at a slower pace (9-9:30) and speed up every mile from there (last mile being 6:30-7). My problem lately is getting those long runs in, I need to focus and just do my long runs early in the morning before the family wakes up. Real worried about my marathon coming up..

[pdoel]

Pdoel- have you figured your your possible fracture issues yet? im curious to know what the issue is and how you are planning on handling it.

Well I've now had two MRIs (second was yesterday). The radiologist at the imaging center is ruling it a fracture (right where the hamstring attaches to the pelvis). My ortho says he'd rule it more as a stress reaction. There's still quite a bit of swelling.

My right hamstring is still very weak though compared to the left. So I really need to be working it more. He suggests I continue to cross train. He thinks by mid June, I should be a-ok, but gave me the go ahead to start testing it out. Said I won't know until I try, so I'm going to try a run each Friday. Obviously, if I feel pain, I'll stop. But really thinking after all this time off, I have to be about ready.

[Aonarch]

I am a natural runner. Scottish highlander, dad was an olympic athlete.

What else should I do besides running to keep fit? What do you guys do to supplement your running?

I do pushups (triangles, wide, narrow, regular, etc), pull ups (several variations), and basic core exercises (situps, crunches, planks, leg raises, etc).

I used to lift weights but I got shot in the shoulder and I have nerve damage, so I stay away from anything potentionaly harmful.

[602crew]

My problem lately is getting those long runs in, I need to focus and just do my long runs early in the morning before the family wakes up. Real worried about my marathon coming up..

If you are having trouble finding the time to get in your longer runs, 2 hurter runs might help. Maybe 3-5 before work and then your normal 5 at lunch. I would still focus on those longer runs and the mid-distance runs. (9-12 milers)

I am a natural runner. Scottish highlander, dad was an olympic athlete.

What else should I do besides running to keep fit? What do you guys do to supplement your running?

I do pushups (triangles, wide, narrow, regular, etc), pull ups (several variations), and basic core exercises (situps, crunches, planks, leg raises, etc).

I used to lift weights but I got shot in the shoulder and I have nerve damage, so I stay away from anything potentionaly harmful.

I just run. Of course I run ~70 miles/week so that's enough to keep me fit. To supplement my running, I just do normal core exercises and pushups.