Success! Finally Euro LED Tails installed without running wires!!!

[9Schnell]

Quote, originally posted by Mr_Peach »

I'm digging in to mine now. Care to expand on your 'headache'? Probably too late for me.....

I did mine last year, its pretty easy.
I ran the wires up front tho.
LMK if you need a hand.

[Mr_Peach]

Quote, originally posted by davidraeside »

I'm having a noob moment here. I bought the harnesses from ECS, but I need to move the pins around.

I find instructions for moving the pins on the blocks that have the purple release tab, but I'm needing to move the pins on the other block.

How do I do that?

[r32-1163]

it's easier to explain if you look at this thread:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3358144

Basically you release the purple clip, make a tool out of a paper clip as shown, insert the tool release the pin.

[Mr_Peach]

Thanks, I saw that.

I want to modify the block that doesn't have the purple clip.

Looking at the photo above, my three wires are in the wrong slots on the right hand blocks. I need to move two of them.

Agghhh, it gets worse. I just figured out that what I thought was a splice in the ECS wire bundle is a diode.

Anyway, I need to understand the basics of "re-pinning" these connectors before I can make progress.
Modified by Mr_Peach at 11:51 AM 2-22-2009


Modified by Mr_Peach at 12:05 PM 2-22-2009

[r32-1163]

to repin it's pretty simple.

if you're re-pining the other side without the purple clip you need to lift up the piece that locks down the pins. if you look at it carefully see a flat area you can lift up with a small flat screwdriver.

yeah the ECS wires come with a diode. just remove the diode and cover with heatshrink or electrical tape.

you just need to splice 2 wires to one.

[r32-1163]

if you look at the pin itelf in the picture above there are two metal flares that stick out on each side of the male pin.

to remove it, you release the flat black piece (be careful) then you need to stick a paper clip bent into a U to release the flares holding the pin.

[Mr_Peach]

Thanks.

Still struggling with it.

I'm guessing these pins aren't designed to be released.

[9Schnell]

Quote, originally posted by Mr_Peach »

Thanks. Still struggling with it. I'm guessing these pins aren't designed to be released.

De-pin tool works magic.
Heres a link to a cheap set that works ok.

http://www.ecstuning.com/stage...Tools

[hmsa]

Quote, originally posted by r32-1163 »

After all that, the Bulb out message wouldn't go away. Played with it for a bit, and here's how I got rid of the message, I turned on the one in red below:

OP, is there a chance you still have that picture or could tell me which byte/bit you turned on to the get rid of the bulb out message?
I've been playing for a couple of hours with my coding but nothing worked.

TIA.


Modified by hmsa at 6:20 PM 4-5-2009

[maotsetung]

does anybody know where i can get these connectors?..or if possible..any part numbers so i can try getting from the dealership..

[maotsetung]

^^^
bump


Modified by maotsetung at 1:54 AM 4-12-2009

[hmsa]

Quote, originally posted by maotsetung »

does anybody know where i can get these connectors?..or if possible..any part numbers so i can try getting from the dealership..

1K0-972-764.

[PSU]

Quote, originally posted by hmsa »

OP, is there a chance you still have that picture or could tell me which byte/bit you turned on to the get rid of the bulb out message? I've been playing for a couple of hours with my coding but nothing worked. TIA. Modified by hmsa at 6:20 PM 4-5-2009

I had that image somewhere, but managed to misplace it. Imagine that.

I need it again as well.

[hmsa]

Quote, originally posted by PSU »

I had that image somewhere, but managed to misplace it. Imagine that. I need it again as well.

r32-1163 was very kind and sent me the link.
Basically it's Byte 19, Bit 3 checked.
Unfortunatelly, it didn't work for me.

[same32..]

...just run the wires..

[hmsa]

Thanks again to r32-1163 I could now clear the bulb out message.
I missed clearing the DTCs after coding.

[PSU]

Quote »

Thanks again to r32-1163 & hmsa I could now clear the bulb out message. I missed clearing the DTCs after coding.

[parklane]

I just wish someone would come out with an entire kit and instructions. That would work for me.
Simple and no pain. Pure plug + play.

[r32-1163]

Quote, originally posted by parklane »

I just wish someone would come out with an entire kit and instructions. That would work for me. Simple and no pain. Pure plug + play.

no one has anything like that yet, even so, there are already 2 proven ways to do this.
1) Run the Wires
2) Build the harness, splice the stock wires, or solder in the headlights.

Both of which requires VAGCOM to complete the job.

[Mr_Peach]

Got mine working, except for the rear fog. These threads helped a lot.

Some thoughts:

Using the ECS harnesses, I had a couple difficulties - the harnesses weren't built right, even for a Jetta, so I was doing some mods on the "purple clip" side that I didn't think I would need to do. I think I totaled the purple clip on one, but it still works OK.

The second difficulty I had with the harness was that they should be "handed"; the left harness is different from the right harness. I built two "lefts" and it was obvious when I was plugging in the right one that I had goofed; the wires were all shifted one position.

After doing the coding from speedbump, they worked fine for a day. Then today, I got a "bulb out" diagnostic, along with an MFD message about the right brake light. I could observe the right parking light was either not on or very weak. Thinking it had to be a coding error (or DTC clear error), I of course cleared my codes a couple times. Finally I pulled apart the right taillight again and discovered I had pinched a wire under the stud, shorting it to ground intermittently. Sometimes a fault is truly a fault.... And of course *this time* I dropped the damn nut down the fender 15 minutes with a flashlight, dental mirror and magnetic pickup tool saved that one.

As for the rear fog light: I connected the trigger wire to the switch, and I pulled off the lower dash cover to access the ECU. I then moved the seat and tried playing "twister" to get my large middle-aged self under there a few times before I decided I would be royally pissed if I slipped a disc or something trying to do this. Either I need to pull the seat completely out, hire a twenty-something to do this, or settle for no rear fog light (those grapes are probably sour anyway....)

[FreeGolf]

on all the videos on youtube it looks like the lights are flickering... is it just bc of the camera or do these lights have a slight flicker?

[PSU]

Quote, originally posted by FreeGolf »

on all the videos on youtube it looks like the lights are flickering... is it just bc of the camera or do these lights have a slight flicker?

Camera.

Even my cell phone causes the lights to flash.

[FreeGolf]

gotcha... kind of reminds me when you film the television you sometimes get that flicker...

[MattWayMK5]

Installed my lights today and everything works perfectly except when I turn my parking lights on the center of the tail is red like it should be but the outer ring is amber. When I step on the brake the center lights up brighter red and the outer ring lights up brighter amber. Any ideas on why this isnt red? As I turn the signals on they flash between red and amber but im pretty sure they outers should be red when just the parking lights are on.

[nikhsub1]

Quote, originally posted by MattWayMK5 »

Installed my lights today and everything works perfectly except when I turn my parking lights on the center of the tail is red like it should be but the outer ring is amber. When I step on the brake the center lights up brighter red and the outer ring lights up brighter amber. Any ideas on why this isnt red?

Where is facepalm? It is mentioned like 50 times that you need VAGCOM to fix that.

[MattWayMK5]

Quote, originally posted by nikhsub1 »

Where is facepalm? It is mentioned like 50 times that you need VAGCOM to fix that.

I did every change in vagcom that is suggested in here

[nikhsub1]

You did this too?

Amber coding by Sparkstack:

After Coding

Byte 9: 0F
Byte 13: 00

[r32-1163]

Quote, originally posted by MattWayMK5 »

I did every change in vagcom that is suggested in here

If you did then it should work. I doubt ours are flukes, lol.

[MattWayMK5]

Quote, originally posted by nikhsub1 »

You did this too? Amber coding by Sparkstack: After Coding Byte 9: 0F Byte 13: 00

I did that except I have 0A on Byte: 9 Because when I enter 0F it says there is a code error

[MattWayMK5]

Ok I got it fixed now. I entered Byte 9 as 0F and Byte 13 as 00 at the same time. If I tried to just change Byte 9 it would switch Byte 13 to 14 automatically. Thanks so much guys. A big to the both of you


Modified by MattWayMK5 at 9:17 PM 5-12-2009

[r32-1163]

Great.

To avoid more confusion, reposting the long code again
Note, DRLs are turned off and Rear fog is not enabled. (you can modify as needed after you clear the bulb error)

Modify the code, clear DTCs and you're good.

[rexpencoe]

i have a gti 07 with hella led tails. i get a light out fault every time i turn my parking lights on and use my driver side blinker. even when the code is on the blinker will blink 5 times and then stop. can you please help me with this situation? thanks

[DarkNeo]

I did the same too... thanks for all your help!

Currently my harness looks like this:



I guess I have to move the wires on the female plug down. Pin 1 down to pin 2 and pin 2 down to pin 3. How the hell do I pull the wire out?

[r32-1163]

the pin removal tool or a thick paper clip.

[DarkNeo]

the pin removal tool or a thick paper clip.

It a bitch to get the pins out from the female plug, its impossible