VERY COOL! Go VWM and APR!
#1
Congratulations to VW Motorsport, just celebrating a big victory at the famous Ring in Germany:The VW Scirocco GT24 won the ADAC 24h Race in his class! The car is equipped with an Audi S3 based 2L T-FSI engine, tuned to 325 hp! Best thing about that: All 3 Scirocco's participating using an APR high pressure fuel pump and a set of APRīs High Flow injectors to reach this high output (Stock k04 setup, no other internal mods, stock DSG). All Parts delivered by APRīs German Distributor >> MFT.
Before the big show at the ring this weekend, the APR high pressure fuel pump was tested intensive by VWM with not a single issue on the engine Dyno reams of hours. There is no better way to prove the quality and endurance of APR's products than to be proved by VWM and winning the 24h! The Scirocco (and drivers of course) had shown best performance, maximum output and a high overall ranking (11/17/30) behind the big Porsches. Congratulations!
More Infos here: http://www.volkswagen-motorspo...=2010
http://adac.24h-rennen.de/en/live.htmlYou need a prove of this?! Just check the following pics:
VW Motorsport Truck at the ring
VW Motorsport Scirocco before the Race
VW Motorsport Scirocco engine (stock S3 block / k04)
VW Motorsport Scirocco engine bay
The Engine equipped with real goood stuff!
We found this on another website, showing the engine test.
Modified by APR Germany at 7:59 PM 5-25-2008
Modified by APR Germany at 8:40 PM 5-25-2008
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#3
Damn so thats how keith knew what's up:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3852036
I've now seen that intake setup on the Scirrocco and the SEAT Leon. Do you have any information on it? Also, with tuning, was it preformed directly by the bosche engineers who designed the MED9? Lastly were any modifications made to the DSG transmission in any way?
Modified by Arin at 2:15 PM 5-25-2008
#5
From the article it says they run a max of 250 ft-lbs so to get the power levels they quoted they need to at least rev it to about 6725. I wonder if they take the DSG higher. I have a bunch of technical questions I'd like to ask about the whole setup. Definitely good to have motorsport information available to the community!
#8
great picsJust finished up on our gallery from the race
http://www.media.oneighturbo.c...gring
#10
What other cars were in the 2 liter turbo class?
-Drew
1986 944 Turbo - T4 .50 trim
2006 GTI - APR K04
2002 A4 3.0Q
#11
i'm assuming 320 crank hp since usually they don't post whpit looks like a stock k04 setup with apr pump, intake and def tuned software (apr?) so 320 crank is nothing to go crazy about
the only thing that bothers me is that i don't see the DV recirculation so its probably a different setup
any idea on how it could be routed?
anyway, good job APR!!! that's some marketing for your pump
edit: oh, and does that mean that vw will honor cam repairs with the apr pump?
Modified by Spax MC at 9:08 PM 5-25-2008
#12
wow very nice.. i was on radiolemans.com the whole night watching the race and listening to the comentators... they were getting flooded with emails if this car was coming to the us.. there were about 15 different classes, even a diesle class. There was a old skewl mini copper that was done up very nicly and wish i could find pics.. if anyone has some good links to this let me know..i would loveeeeeeeeeeee to do that 24 hours on the rig FTW! The guys the won the gt3 class (btw the yellow hids rock in those cars) this was there 3rd time in a row winning the 24 hours at the ring.
#13
Great for VW. The original article on autoblog with regards to the scirocco race car talks specifically about how the DSG transmission was modified to meet the demands of the race car. I believe the clutches were upgraded, ligthweight flywheel added and the revs modified.
#14
Quote, originally posted by jamdub » about how the DSG transmission was modified to meet the demands of the race car. I believe the clutches were upgraded, ligthweight flywheel added and the revs modified. here is the "official" specs. doesnt go into detail but does list these modifications
http://www.oneighturbo.com/200...specs/
#15
wow, pretty pictures
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#16
real nice! http://www.media.oneighturbo.c...gring
#18
Intake looks like it's using a BMC CDASP-14 with something similar to a carbonio feeding it. But those two pieces looked like they were machined/built as one. You can see the CDASP-14 at bmcfilters.com for reference.
Modified by HDClown at 7:50 AM 5-27-2008
#19
Intake looks sweet , I wonder if that intake gives lower MAF readings as well ?
#20
Quote, originally posted by HDClown » Intake looks like it's using a BMC CDASP-14 with something similar to a carbonio feeding it. But those two pieces looked like they were machined/built as one. You can see the CDASP-14 at bmcfilters.com for reference. Looks like someone could slap a carbonio onto the front of that thing and custom make the rear tubing.
I've also seen a slightly different design on the uk sport seat leons race cars.
Some specs are in these documents:
http://www.arinahnell.com/other/vw/tech/
#21
yeah there were some great photos... 1st and 2nd way to VW.
my fave photos....
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#22
Anyone else see a Japanese design influence on the Scirocco?
#23
Quote, originally posted by HoldDaMayo » Anyone else see a Japanese design influence on the Scirocco? I been said that.
#24
I e-mailed BMC and they confirmed that the cylinder section is a BMC CDA, but the "carbonio like" section and piping is not made by them. I'm asking them to confirm if the CDA is a custom design or a standard model. And if standard, what model.Not sure if the BMC would even fit in that orientation in the MkV GTI/Jetta due to difference engine compartment layout to the right side of the motor.
#25
Good point on the layout... may get blocked by the battery box.May be a bit jammed but it may hook up with the carbonio intake.
Modified by Arin at 9:11 AM 5-27-2008
#26
Quote, originally posted by Arin » May be a bit jammed but it may hook up with the carbonio intake. You could always switch you battery:
But, then again, what's this thing? Looks like a reservoir or catch can?
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#27
Quote, originally posted by Kid Hobo » You could always switch you battery:
But, then again, what's this thing? Looks like a reservoir or catch can?
Reservoir or catch can?....... That looks like a DSG or automatic oil cooler to me.
#28
That would make sense, since that's where the DSG is.
Maybe a repost?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-79wRBZAkw
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#29
Quote, originally posted by Arin » Damn so thats how keith knew what's up:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3852036
I've now seen that intake setup on the Scirrocco and the SEAT Leon. Do you have any information on it? Also, with tuning, was it preformed directly by the bosche engineers who designed the MED9? Lastly were any modifications made to the DSG transmission in any way?
Modified by Arin at 2:15 PM 5-25-2008Yeah, I was biting my tongue hard that day.
#30
Quote, originally posted by Keith@APR » Yeah, I was biting my tongue hard that day.
Get off the phone and get us more info on the car!
#31
Quote, originally posted by HoldDaMayo » Anyone else see a Japanese design influence on the Scirocco? Anybody else see a DTM design influence stolen by the Japanese and popularized by JDM sport compacts?
#33
Heard back from BMC. The CDA used on the Scirocco is a CDA85-150. The only differecen in that model and the CDA-14 which is sold for the 2.0T is that the engine side air outlet on the CDA-14 is 70mm instead of 85mm in the CDA85-150. So just a matter of what piping you mate it too.150mm is overal diamater of the CDA and it's 200mm long. If that diameter could fit, I bet you could pretty easily piece together a carbonio and some pipe from a evo/neuspeed/vf kit and make the same setup.
#35
Quote, originally posted by Arin » Sounds expensive! <------Looking for appropriate cliche about price vs. quality.....
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