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    06-04-2008 02:01 AM #1
    Quote, originally posted by Adjustable Alternator Setup, ABF Spec, VW I4 »

    The ABF Adjustable alternator set up has been sought after by many individuals. With some fervent searching and development work, sourcing the parts for the 16v enthusiast just became alot easier.

    What is the ABF alternator conversion? Its an adjustable serpentine belt set up that eliminates the need to use tensioners and positions the alternator low enough to clear ITB's (Individual throttle bodies) on an 8V,16V or even 20V set up!

    With the basic kit you get:
    * BRAND NEW Isaka 90A Alternator with 1 year warranty.THIS IS NOT REBUILT
    * ABF Alternator bracket
    and is yours for $319US SHIPPED!

    Additional parts to compliment your new set up can be provided at an additional cost:
    * VW MKIV 1.8T Crankshaft pulley + required spacer - +115
    * OEM OBD-1 VR6 water pump pulley - +33
    * ABA/ABF bracket bolts that will allow you to mount the bracket to the block. - +32
    * 6-RIB serpentine Belt - +29
    * T6061 Aluminum Alternator & Water Pump Pulley - +99

    NB : The Alternator as well as the bracket can be purchased separately and we have the means to source any serpentine set up from the ABA ac & the uber rare non-ac.





    Please send me a PM when you are ready to order and remember the bolts and pulley's are additional.
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  2. 06-22-2008 07:25 PM #2
    OK, I'm just learning all the nuances of TD's. What benefit does this serve, and what is cost/benefit ratio?

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    06-22-2008 07:28 PM #3
    Quote, originally posted by Old Guy GTI »
    OK, I'm just learning all the nuances of TD's. What benefit does this serve, and what is cost/benefit ratio?

    You are converting your v-belt set up to a serpentine belt set up.If you owned a pre 1994 VW long enough you would become VERY familiar with the hassles of the v-belt set ups.They are ugly,bulky and are constantly failing.
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    09-03-2008 10:46 PM #4
    is there a serpentine belt configuration that allows for an AC compressor. this would be for an '81 1.6NA w/o power steering. I get belt slip when the AC compressor kicks in every once in a while and i hate having to tighten the belts. plus a alternator upgrade would be nice. does the alternator have a W terminal?
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    09-03-2008 11:08 PM #5
    Quote, originally posted by Levi20AE »
    is there a serpentine belt configuration that allows for an AC compressor. this would be for an '81 1.6NA w/o power steering. I get belt slip when the AC compressor kicks in every once in a while and i hate having to tighten the belts. plus a alternator upgrade would be nice. does the alternator have a W terminal?

    Dont know what a "W terminal" is...

    The only serpentine belt configuration that allows for the AC compressor is the ABA set up.

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    09-06-2008 03:10 PM #6
    Quote, originally posted by INA »

    Dont know what a "W terminal" is...

    the "W terminal" is the only way to get a tach reading on an older diesel, ie, non-TDI, since we don't have any sort of ignition system on the car to tap into for that.

    TDIs should get their tach reading off the crank angle sensor, but people doing mechanical TDI swaps or running 1.6Ds, 1.6TDs, 1.5Ds, 1.9Ds, or 1.9TDs, need the W-terminal to get a tach reading.

    and since all of these diesel engines are basically the same (basic 8V VW) this kit would work on the other engines.

    not everyone needs the W-terminal, however, only if the car has a tach.


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    11-29-2008 07:19 AM #7
    Hope everyone had an amazing Thanks Giving!

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    We have now reduced the price of the crankshaft serpentine pulley kit to $115US SHIPPED.Kit consists of:
    * Brand new OEM 1.8T Crankshaft pulley
    * Spacer for correct offset

    No more buying cracked up old ABA pulleys
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    02-28-2009 12:38 PM #8
    Ok I have decided that I am going to write the serpentine conversion FAQ thread and I am going to be placing it in the MKI Golf & Jetta forum as the members of id=11 have been nothing but awesome to me.
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    03-08-2009 11:14 PM #9

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  10. 03-15-2009 10:24 AM #10
    Do you have this?
    "Is there a serpentine belt configuration that allows for an AC compressor. this would be with power steering. "?



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    03-15-2009 03:35 PM #11
    Quote, originally posted by DogDiesel »
    Do you have this?
    "Is there a serpentine belt configuration that allows for an AC compressor. this would be with power steering. "?



    That would be the AFN set up.
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    03-16-2009 08:31 AM #12
    Quote, originally posted by xero »

    the "W terminal" is the only way to get a tach reading on an older diesel, ie, non-TDI, since we don't have any sort of ignition system on the car to tap into for that.

    TDIs should get their tach reading off the crank angle sensor, but people doing mechanical TDI swaps or running 1.6Ds, 1.6TDs, 1.5Ds, 1.9Ds, or 1.9TDs, need the W-terminal to get a tach reading.

    and since all of these diesel engines are basically the same (basic 8V VW) this kit would work on the other engines.

    not everyone needs the W-terminal, however, only if the car has a tach.

    did we ever find out if this alternator has the W terminal on it?

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    03-16-2009 09:58 AM #13
    it does have the terminal
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    03-28-2009 02:42 PM #14
    All pm's responded to! Clean up your engine bay and get rid of those nasty tensioners! Don't be shy to contact me with any questions or to purchase a kit!
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  15. 03-28-2009 09:17 PM #15
    I'd like to see a picture of the AFN setup.

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    04-16-2009 12:58 AM #17
    Anybody know if this will work on the MK3 TDI's? I'd love to get rid of the v-belt on that stupid thing and simplify the crazy pulley/belt system they setup on it or could I just buy ABA stuff and use those parts to switch to a full serpentine belt setup?

    Lastly, do you offer any bigger alternators than a 90amp?


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    04-16-2009 04:16 PM #18
    Quote, originally posted by CDJetta »
    Anybody know if this will work on the MK3 TDI's? I'd love to get rid of the v-belt on that stupid thing and simplify the crazy pulley/belt system they setup on it or could I just buy ABA stuff and use those parts to switch to a full serpentine belt setup?

    Lastly, do you offer any bigger alternators than a 90amp?


    ABA wont work because the alternator will be pushed into the fuel pump.
    The ABF kit will work for you and we can offer it with 120A but 90A is more than enough for a Diesel.
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  19. 04-17-2009 07:29 AM #19
    BTW--
    Would still like to see a picture of the AFN setup.

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    04-17-2009 02:19 PM #20
    Quote, originally posted by DogDiesel »
    BTW--
    Would still like to see a picture of the AFN setup.

    Going to be posting all this up soon for everyone
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  21. 04-28-2009 07:28 PM #21
    Ok,
    I need the serpentine setup NOW, or I have to find another serpentine alternative. Mine snapped a bolt and has ruined V-Belt hardware . It is a daily driver (150 m per day) and I am losing money driving other cars . Can you deliver soon, or do I look for another serpentine source?
    1.9 TD AAZ with AC, powersteering in a 1981 VW MK1 pickup.

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    04-28-2009 08:13 PM #22
    Quote, originally posted by DogDiesel »
    Ok,
    I need the serpentine setup NOW, or I have to find another serpentine alternative. Mine snapped a bolt and has ruined V-Belt hardware . It is a daily driver (150 m per day) and I am losing money driving other cars . Can you deliver soon, or do I look for another serpentine source?
    1.9 TD AAZ with AC, powersteering in a 1981 VW MK1 pickup.

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    I have an AFN bracket if you are interested.
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  23. 04-29-2009 04:41 PM #23
    Do you have the other parts (numbers) for the other parts? Are the other parts VW OEM parts or aftermarket

    Is this bracket one belt, or is the PS and WP belt a V belt?
    I am interested if I can go to the VW dealer and get the other parts. Was at dealer yesterday looking at serpentine parts.
    Wayne


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    04-30-2009 06:31 PM #24
    Quote, originally posted by DogDiesel »
    Do you have the other parts (numbers) for the other parts? Are the other parts VW OEM parts or aftermarket

    Is this bracket one belt, or is the PS and WP belt a V belt?
    I am interested if I can go to the VW dealer and get the other parts. Was at dealer yesterday looking at serpentine parts.
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    I will put up the part #'s in the thread above
    the AFN puts the alt /AC and crank on serpentine and the water pump & ps on V belt.
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  25. 05-02-2009 09:36 AM #25
    Please provide bracket details and price in IM or email, or simply post in forum.
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    05-02-2009 12:19 PM #26
    Quote, originally posted by DogDiesel »
    Please provide bracket details and price in IM or email, or simply post in forum.
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    Will do Wayne
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  27. 05-03-2009 11:36 PM #27
    Will do Wayne

    WHEN? Somehow communicate a price for the bracket; sorry I do not tease well.
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    05-04-2009 01:33 AM #28
    I don't know what I was thinking before...... my TDI already has a serpentine belt setup that the alternator is on. The PS and Waterpump are on the v-belt setup. Do you have the necessary items to convert the rest of my v-belt setup to a serp belt setup?

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    05-04-2009 10:44 AM #29
    Quote, originally posted by CDJetta »
    I don't know what I was thinking before...... my TDI already has a serpentine belt setup that the alternator is on. The PS and Waterpump are on the v-belt setup. Do you have the necessary items to convert the rest of my v-belt setup to a serp belt setup?

    Are you keeping AC?
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    05-04-2009 05:49 PM #31
    Quote, originally posted by CDJetta »
    aye

    Pleasure talking with you today
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  32. 05-04-2009 08:02 PM #32
    INA,
    Called today-posted above previously that my Caddy is down for broken bolt on AC / Gen mount, that I'm ready to buy serpentine kit. Your AFN kit with serpentine for alternator and AC and V-belt for PS and WP available now, and you could ship a single belt system by next week. So by by Monday the 11th, you can use your design, bend and cut metal and assemble one belt kits for shipping by Monday 11 May?
    I'm in a time crunch. I have until Saturday the 16th of May to get my Caddy back on the road 100% or it sits parked till June the 2d. (I am on 24 hour call 17-31 May with perfectly clean hands and Army Greens to drive to some wife or mothers door to let her know her son/husband isn't coming home 1 hour from notification). INA -- can you deliver or do I need to make other arrangements?
    The phone conversation was pleasant, I believe you can make the kit, but from design to bent metal and packaged product in 1 week is an aggressive schedule. Don't tell me what I want to hear, that of course its possible, just no joke by next week I can have the parts. Or I should make other arrangements for still another backup vehicle.

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    05-04-2009 11:53 PM #33
    Quote, originally posted by INA »

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    You didn't talk with me today....


  34. 05-10-2009 07:10 PM #34
    Called last week... I'm ready to buy serpentine kit. Your AFN bracket available now, and you could ship a single belt system by next week, by Monday the Monday 11th.
    Is your single belt system ready next week or do I invest in the AFN setup?

    Wayne

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    05-11-2009 10:03 AM #35
    Quote, originally posted by CDJetta »

    You didn't talk with me today....



    I need VMG to put a real name application in this place.Sorry!

    I am going to put up some pictures tonight of the AFN set up.I took some on friday and they are just getting photoshopped.

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