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    Thread: So my Audi got booted, and this is what I'm going to do about it....discuss

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      06-19-2008 12:21 AM #1471
      I wonder if you could take APS to the DA's office... I mean, if there's a warning/citation/then boot proceedure & clause in the contracts that they draw up... then they've obviously broken and defrauded all of their contracts and as such should be questioned as to their business practices.
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      06-19-2008 12:22 AM #1472
      better business bureau anyone???

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      06-19-2008 12:27 AM #1473
      Quote, originally posted by valfaw »
      better business bureau anyone???

      Depends on whether there was intent. You'd have to subpoena company documents and e-mails, which means a court order. If you can prove that there was malicious intent to immediately boot without question, thus breaking your own contract, then it's criminal, hence, the DA's office. The BBB would be like mayonnaise added to a tuna fish sandwich. You wanna go with criminal intent at all times because it could mean the scrotum bags at APS could face jail... (and let's be honest here) we all would love a role reversal.
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      06-19-2008 12:34 AM #1474
      Quote, originally posted by Kid Hobo »
      The BBB would be like mayonnaise added to a tuna fish sandwich.

      Mayonnaise is essential to a tuna fish sandwich!

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      06-19-2008 12:36 AM #1475
      but what's the relish?
      a concerned citizen email/letter to all of the other ASSociations that are also party knowingly or otherwise to these people's tactics... hence losing contracts/income/business...
      that could be relished.
      the only problem with that scenario is the little worker bee that gets screwed in the deal but if they were party to it willingly then, more the better...


      Modified by valfaw at 11:39 PM 6-18-2008

    6. 06-19-2008 12:37 AM #1476
      what the
      i read this thread a few days ago when it was at page 7. i look today, and it's at 43!
      can someone give me a quick summary???

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      06-19-2008 12:39 AM #1477
      search the OP's posts in his profile

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      06-19-2008 12:41 AM #1478
      Quote, originally posted by LoudTIGER »
      what the
      i read this thread a few days ago when it was at page 7. i look today, and it's at 43!
      can someone give me a quick summary???

      Go to page 26 and scroll down about half way. There's a large summary of basically everything that's happened so far.

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      06-19-2008 12:42 AM #1479
      Quote, originally posted by SEDUBBER »
      Brought this to NASIOC!!!!! Starting to grow in the OT!!!!!!!!!!
      http://forums.nasioc.com/forum...39735

      Quote, originally posted by other thread »
      Epic Thread on VWvortex. Man's Audi gets a boot(s), takes action into his own hands!

      And yet I am viewing this on triplezoom and not VWVortex. Yeah, it's a loosing battle. I guess I should stop even trying to get TCL separated from VWVortex since most people seem to think it is only a VWAG forum.
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      06-19-2008 12:43 AM #1480
      Quote, originally posted by bill1975 »
      Mayonnaise is essential to a tuna fish sandwich!

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      06-19-2008 12:44 AM #1481
      Quote, originally posted by BRealistic »
      And yet I am viewing this on triplezoom and not VWVortex. Yeah, it's a loosing battle. I guess I should stop even trying to get TCL separated from VWVortex since most people seem to think it is only a VWAG forum.


      I gave that game up a long time ago.

    12. 06-19-2008 12:46 AM #1482
      I'm not a lawyer or anything, but it looks like the contract states that the parking enforcement procedures are :
      Issuance of warnings to advise vehicle driver/owner that a violation has occured for minor violations such as expired plates or not having a permit displayed.
      Then it goes on to say that citations will be issued for repeat offender or more serious violations. STILL NO MENTION OF BOOTING.
      The contract does not mention booting UNTIL "violation is not paid and/or corrected," "repated violations and for illegally parked vehicles in a reserved space, fire lane and/or handicapped space."
      Now, unless the OP had citations that were unpaid (which from reading the thread he said he didn't have any), there's no reason the company should be booting ANY cars for simply not having the permit displayed once. They should've been issued a warning or a citation. If they've been doing this for a while now, maybe someone should be asking for money back. I certainly would.
      The contract also states that this is a month-to-month contract and it can be terminated with a 30-day notice by either party.
      EDIT: Edited to make more sense: Oh crap. At the end of the contract it says: Vehicles that are in violation of any of these guidelines are subject to being fined/immobilized and/or towed. They put it in bold too, so I guess the contract does give them the right to boot you for not having a sticker displayed, even though the language earlier in the contract says otherwise?



      Modified by MasterFuu at 10:10 PM 6-18-2008

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      06-19-2008 12:47 AM #1483
      Holy crap - this thing has gotten over 15,000 views in the last hour ...
      Word is getting out!

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      06-19-2008 12:50 AM #1484
      Quote, originally posted by BRealistic »
      And yet I am viewing this on triplezoom and not VWVortex. Yeah, it's a loosing battle. I guess I should stop even trying to get TCL separated from VWVortex since most people seem to think it is only a VWAG forum.

      I'm actually coming in on http://forums.motivemag.com - I laugh at the people who still do things like add "vw content" to a thread or think this is the mk4 forums or something, heh.

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      06-19-2008 12:52 AM #1485
      122051 views as of this post

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      06-19-2008 12:55 AM #1486
      Anyone wanna post a summary to spam, er, post on other forums, I'm way to lazy to summerize everything.

    17. 06-19-2008 12:56 AM #1487
      So I'm a little confused about this. How did the boots come off? Did APS take them off themselves, not being allowed to have their boots on a car in a garage?

    18. 06-19-2008 12:58 AM #1488
      FWIW - this is showing up on the first page of Yahoo! as well - so the remaining 12% of the internet population can find it!

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      06-19-2008 12:58 AM #1489
      UPDATE KIDDIES

      Tomorrow, Thursday June 19th, 2008 SHASTA Pools will be notified of Breach of Contract. They HAVE NOT paid the fee and the company truck has been there many days with said boot. They are probably resisting, as it's current state for so long.
      Updates concerning news networks will be updated.
      Updates waiting for a response from HOA President concerning Breach of Contract E-mail I sent.
      I'm still debating as to whether or not start- ISSUING COPIES WITH HIGHLIGHTED BREACH OF CONTRACT ON ALL SAID VICTIMS PHANTOMLY ON THEIR VEHICLES
      Do remember, this is not really me vs the HOA, they appear to be on my side, well, kinda. It's really kinda a play on words, kinda sorta yes and no. APS is the main entente, so I kinda have to be little careful putting literature on every booted car. As you know it will REALLY REALLY BLOW UP. EVERY BOOTED OWNER will be sitting there with a copy of the rules in complete defiance of APS with everything in breach RIGHT INFRONT OF APS'S FACES! Then what happens, HOA finds out immediately, and they will know who, GUESS WHO??????????????????????????
      So that's up in the air.
      CAN YOU IMAGINE COMING OUT TO PAY $140 FOR THIS? I'M SURE SHASTA POOLS IS IRKED! GEE, HOW DID THEY GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT?
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      06-19-2008 12:58 AM #1490
      Wow this is incredible. Best of luck to the OP. Stick it to these baztards. Arizona Parking Solutions = [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthdown.gif[/IMG]
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    21. 06-19-2008 12:59 AM #1491
      Quote, originally posted by baconisgood »
      So I'm a little confused about this. How did the boots come off? Did APS take them off themselves, not being allowed to have their boots on a car in a garage?

      They are still on.

    22. 06-19-2008 01:02 AM #1492
      Quote, originally posted by snohobo »
      They are still on.

      Um, no, you need to go back and read again.

    23. 06-19-2008 01:03 AM #1493
      Quote, originally posted by snohobo »
      They are still on.

      What?!
      Quote, originally posted by original stuff, whatever »
      -(Officcr to APS Schmuck) So, he's not holding your boots against will, do you want them back?
      -Yes (they pull them off and go)



      Modified by baconisgood at 10:05 PM 6-18-2008

    24. 06-19-2008 01:08 AM #1494
      Quote, originally posted by surefooted »
      Um, no, you need to go back and read again.

      Fack! I guess I have to start from the beginning again.

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      06-19-2008 01:14 AM #1495
      I had no idea either but there's no way I'm going to go back and read 43 pages post by post. I do a search for posts that A1/A2 created with the title "booted" in them though
      A1/A2 should post updates in the OP I think. At least a condensed version.
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      06-19-2008 01:20 AM #1496
      It seems to me that APS's chances of winning this are getting worse by the minute. The more they try to retaliate, the worse they make their case look in front of everybody. Greddy retards...
      Good luck to the OP and everybody else that got booted there...
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      06-19-2008 01:21 AM #1497
      Quote, originally posted by The A1 and A2 German »
      UPDATE KIDDIES

      CAN YOU IMAGINE COMING OUT TO PAY $140 FOR THIS? I'M SURE SHASTA POOLS IS IRKED! GEE, HOW DID THEY GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT?

      Getting these guys involved is probably a great move. The business looks like it's established, and as a business that works for their money they probably won't have much tolerence for this kind of shady BS. This could be a very good allie in the fight. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      06-19-2008 01:21 AM #1498
      Quote, originally posted by VDub2625 »
      I had no idea either but there's no way I'm going to go back and read 43 pages post by post. I do a search for posts that A1/A2 created with the title "booted" in them though
      A1/A2 should post updates in the OP I think. At least a condensed version.

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    29. 06-19-2008 01:36 AM #1499
      Having Shasta pay the fine for their boot...is worse than paying $

    30. 06-19-2008 01:37 AM #1500
      Sorry.
      Having Shasta pay for their fine is worse than paying $10 for "The Happening"

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    32. 06-19-2008 01:49 AM #1502
      you have a lot of spare time on your hands, don't you ? Hahah I keeeed I keeeed

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      06-19-2008 01:50 AM #1503
      Quote, originally posted by The A1 and A2 German »
      CAN YOU IMAGINE COMING OUT TO PAY $140 FOR THIS? I'M SURE SHASTA POOLS IS IRKED! GEE, HOW DID THEY GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT?
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      This absolutely blows me away. To boot a privately-owned commercial vehicle when they are clearly there for "service" to the community. Send those pictures to your HOA president and board. That is harassment. I'm sure that APS probably booted one of the HOA members cars. Clearly Arizona Parking Solutions is up to no good. Totally unethical... Also, I'd call them and ask how 90 dollars turned into 140...
      I'd also follow up with the news, print media is often a little more responsive. Perhaps a few of your local papers are down with a story? The 90k hits do help a bit. I truly hope every time someone searches for Arizona Parking Solutions on google they find this thread.
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      06-19-2008 01:54 AM #1505
      With some posts earlier stating that the HOA may have trouble breaking the current contract with APS, I was heartened to see that there is no penalty clause, no multi-year contract, just a simple 30-day written notice by either party.
      As I stated before, the HOA cancelling the contract, and APS losing this lucrative 700-home development would be one positive outcome of this fiasco.
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