So my Audi got booted, and this is what I'm going to do about it....discuss

[Kid Hobo]

I wonder if you could take APS to the DA's office... I mean, if there's a warning/citation/then boot proceedure & clause in the contracts that they draw up... then they've obviously broken and defrauded all of their contracts and as such should be questioned as to their business practices.

[valfaw]

better business bureau anyone???

[Kid Hobo]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>valfaw</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">better business bureau anyone???</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Depends on whether there was intent. You'd have to subpoena company documents and e-mails, which means a court order. If you can prove that there was malicious intent to immediately boot without question, thus breaking your own contract, then it's criminal, hence, the DA's office. The BBB would be like mayonnaise added to a tuna fish sandwich. You wanna go with criminal intent at all times because it could mean the scrotum bags at APS could face jail... (and let's be honest here) we all would love a role reversal.

[bill1975]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Kid Hobo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p> The BBB would be like mayonnaise added to a tuna fish sandwich. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Mayonnaise is essential to a tuna fish sandwich!

[valfaw]

but what's the relish?<p>a concerned citizen email/letter to all of the other ASSociations that are also party knowingly or otherwise to these people's tactics... hence losing contracts/income/business...<p>that could be relished.<p>the only problem with that scenario is the little worker bee that gets screwed in the deal but if they were party to it willingly then, more the better...<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by valfaw at 11:39 PM 6-18-2008</i>

[LoudTIGER]

what the<p>i read this thread a few days ago when it was at page 7. i look today, and it's at 43!<p>can someone give me a quick summary???

[valfaw]

search the OP's posts in his profile

[SVTDanny]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LoudTIGER</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what the<p>i read this thread a few days ago when it was at page 7. i look today, and it's at 43!<p>can someone give me a quick summary???</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Go to page 26 and scroll down about half way. There's a large summary of basically everything that's happened so far.

[BRealistic]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SEDUBBER</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Brought this to NASIOC!!!!! Starting to grow in the OT!!!!!!!!!!<p><A HREF="http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1539735" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.nasioc.com/forum...39735</A><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>other thread</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p> Epic Thread on VWvortex. Man's Audi gets a boot(s), takes action into his own hands!<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>And yet I am viewing this on triplezoom and not VWVortex. Yeah, it's a loosing battle. I guess I should stop even trying to get TCL separated from VWVortex since most people seem to think it is <b>only</b> a VWAG forum.

[Kid Hobo]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bill1975</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Mayonnaise is essential to a tuna fish sandwich!</TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/biggrin_upper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/biggrin_upper.gif" BORDER="0">

[SVTDanny]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BRealistic</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>And yet I am viewing this on triplezoom and not VWVortex. Yeah, it's a loosing battle. I guess I should stop even trying to get TCL separated from VWVortex since most people seem to think it is <b>only</b> a VWAG forum.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>I gave that game up a long time ago.

[MasterFuu]

I'm not a lawyer or anything, but it looks like the contract states that the parking enforcement procedures are :<p>Issuance of <B>warnings</B> to advise vehicle driver/owner that a violation has occured for <B>minor violations</B> such as expired plates or <B>not having a permit displayed.</B><p>Then it goes on to say that citations will be issued for repeat offender or more serious violations. STILL NO MENTION OF BOOTING.<p>The contract does not mention booting UNTIL "violation is not paid and/or corrected," "repated violations and for illegally parked vehicles in a reserved space, fire lane and/or handicapped space."<p>Now, unless the OP had citations that were unpaid (which from reading the thread he said he didn't have any), there's no reason the company should be booting ANY cars for simply not having the permit displayed once. They should've been issued a warning or a citation. If they've been doing this for a while now, maybe someone should be asking for money back. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> I certainly would.<p>The contract also states that this is a month-to-month contract and it can be terminated with a 30-day notice by either party. <p><B>EDIT</B>: Edited to make more sense: Oh crap. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> At the end of the contract it says: <B>Vehicles that are in violation of any of these guidelines are subject to being fined/immobilized and/or towed. </B> They put it in bold too, so I guess the contract does give them the right to boot you for not having a sticker displayed, even though the language earlier in the contract says otherwise? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by MasterFuu at 10:10 PM 6-18-2008</i>

[creanium]

Holy crap - this thing has gotten over 15,000 views in the last hour ...<p>Word is getting out!

[creanium]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BRealistic</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>And yet I am viewing this on triplezoom and not VWVortex. Yeah, it's a loosing battle. I guess I should stop even trying to get TCL separated from VWVortex since most people seem to think it is <b>only</b> a VWAG forum.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm actually coming in on <A HREF="http://forums.motivemag.com" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.motivemag.com</A> - I laugh at the people who still do things like add "vw content" to a thread or think this is the mk4 forums or something, heh.

[creanium]

122051 views as of this post

[JoeBMX]

Anyone wanna post a summary to spam, er, post on other forums, I'm way to lazy to summerize everything.

[baconisgood]

So I'm a little confused about this. How did the boots come off? Did APS take them off themselves, not being allowed to have their boots on a car in a garage?

[snohobo]

FWIW - this is showing up on the first page of Yahoo! as well - so the remaining 12% of the internet population can find it!

[The A1 and A2 German]

<B>UPDATE KIDDIES</B> <p><br>Tomorrow, Thursday June 19th, 2008 SHASTA Pools will be notified of Breach of Contract. They HAVE NOT paid the fee and the company truck has been there many days with said boot. They are probably resisting, as it's current state for so long. <p>Updates concerning news networks will be updated. <p>Updates waiting for a response from HOA President concerning Breach of Contract E-mail I sent. <p>I'm still debating as to whether or not start- ISSUING COPIES WITH HIGHLIGHTED BREACH OF CONTRACT ON ALL SAID VICTIMS PHANTOMLY ON THEIR VEHICLES<p>Do remember, this is not really me vs the HOA, they appear to be on my side, well, kinda. It's really kinda a play on words, kinda sorta yes and no. APS is the main entente, so I kinda have to be little careful putting literature on every booted car. As you know it will REALLY REALLY BLOW UP. EVERY BOOTED OWNER will be sitting there with a copy of the rules in complete defiance of APS with everything in breach RIGHT INFRONT OF APS'S FACES! Then what happens, HOA finds out immediately, and they will know who, GUESS WHO?????????????????????????? <p>So that's up in the air. <p>CAN YOU IMAGINE COMING OUT TO PAY $140 FOR THIS? I'M SURE SHASTA POOLS IS IRKED! GEE, HOW DID THEY GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT?<p>[IMG]<IMG SRC="http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/HOABOOTEDDAYTIMEPICKS006.jpg" BORDER="0">[/IMG]<br>[IMG]<IMG SRC="http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/HOABOOTEDDAYTIMEPICKS007.jpg" BORDER="0">[/IMG]

[thatskinnykid]

Wow this is incredible. Best of luck to the OP. Stick it to these baztards. Arizona Parking Solutions = <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

[snohobo]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>baconisgood</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So I'm a little confused about this. How did the boots come off? Did APS take them off themselves, not being allowed to have their boots on a car in a garage?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>They are still on.

[surefooted]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>snohobo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>They are still on. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Um, no, you need to go back and read again. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">

[baconisgood]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>snohobo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>They are still on. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>What?!<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>original stuff, whatever</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>-(Officcr to APS Schmuck) So, he's not holding your boots against will, do you want them back?<p>-Yes (they pull them off and go)<p></TD></TR></TABLE><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by baconisgood at 10:05 PM 6-18-2008</i>

[snohobo]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>surefooted</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Um, no, you need to go back and read again. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Fack! I guess I have to start from the beginning again. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>

[VDub2625]

I had no idea either but there's no way I'm going to go back and read 43 pages post by post. I do a search for posts that A1/A2 created with the title "booted" in them though <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>A1/A2 should post updates in the OP I think. At least a condensed version.

[vw collector]

It seems to me that APS's chances of winning this are getting worse by the minute. The more they try to retaliate, the worse they make their case look in front of everybody. Greddy retards...<p>Good luck to the OP and everybody else that got booted there... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">

[justanotherusername]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>The A1 and A2 German</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><B>UPDATE KIDDIES</B> <p><br>CAN YOU IMAGINE COMING OUT TO PAY $140 FOR THIS? I'M SURE SHASTA POOLS IS IRKED! GEE, HOW DID THEY GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT?<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Getting these guys involved is probably a great move. The business looks like it's established, and as a business that works for their money they probably won't have much tolerence for this kind of shady BS. This could be a very good allie in the fight. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

[Arsigi]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>VDub2625</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had no idea either but there's no way I'm going to go back and read 43 pages post by post. I do a search for posts that A1/A2 created with the title "booted" in them though <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>A1/A2 should post updates in the OP I think. At least a condensed version.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>There is a summary on page 26, up to that point at least! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

[bluepants42]

Having Shasta pay the fine for their boot...is worse than paying $

[bluepants42]

Sorry. <p>Having Shasta pay for their fine is worse than paying $10 for "The Happening" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">

[The A1 and A2 German]

<B>HELLO KIDDIES, UPDATE PIC</B> <p>THINK THEY HAD THIS PROBLEM IN THE 80's?<p>[IMG]<IMG SRC="http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/80s.jpg" BORDER="0">[/IMG]

[RyanFlemington]

you have a lot of spare time on your hands, don't you ? Hahah I keeeed I keeeed

[compy222]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>The A1 and A2 German</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>CAN YOU IMAGINE COMING OUT TO PAY $140 FOR THIS? I'M SURE SHASTA POOLS IS IRKED! GEE, HOW DID THEY GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT?<p>[IMG]<IMG SRC="http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/HOABOOTEDDAYTIMEPICKS006.jpg" BORDER="0">[/IMG]<br>[IMG]<IMG SRC="http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/HOABOOTEDDAYTIMEPICKS007.jpg" BORDER="0">[/IMG]</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>This absolutely blows me away. To boot a privately-owned commercial vehicle when they are clearly there for "service" to the community. Send those pictures to your HOA president and board. That is harassment. I'm sure that APS probably booted one of the HOA members cars. Clearly Arizona Parking Solutions is up to no good. Totally unethical... Also, I'd call them and ask how 90 dollars turned into 140...<p>I'd also follow up with the news, print media is often a little more responsive. Perhaps a few of your local papers are down with a story? The 90k hits do help a bit. I truly hope every time someone searches for Arizona Parking Solutions on google they find this thread. <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> OP keep up the great work! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/biggrin_upper.gif" BORDER="0">

[RS4PD]

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[A1_Lover]

With some posts earlier stating that the HOA may have trouble breaking the current contract with APS, I was heartened to see that there is no penalty clause, no multi-year contract, just a simple 30-day written notice by either party.<p>As I stated before, the HOA cancelling the contract, and APS losing this lucrative 700-home development would be one positive outcome of this fiasco.<p>A1/A2, I wish you all the luck in the world in your effort to involve the media. <p>And remember, the Vortex has your back!<p>-Glenn<p>(oh, and page 44 pwnage!)