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  1. 06-11-2008 01:50 PM #1
    Looking for some help on a base map to compare to. I have done the search, all 27 pages to be exact and have mostly found stuff for boosted applications. Car runs at idle without the idle solenoid hooked up the the intake, when installed, it will not stay running. I have 260cc injectors installed and my fuel values at idle are 140. WB reads 13ish

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    06-11-2008 03:39 PM #2
    With the idle solenoid on you probably pull less vacuum, so check your map/fuel values.
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    06-11-2008 06:01 PM #3
    try going to network54.com it is a forum dedicated to sds user's . I hope that might help some.
    Any VWs made after 92 are usually only good for drive train donors.

  4. 06-12-2008 10:25 AM #4
    no one gets on that forum often though, I have a few things I am going to try first

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    06-12-2008 07:51 PM #5
    full of pop ups on network 54
    the mk4, mk5 crowd is a bunch of posers

  6. 06-12-2008 11:09 PM #6
    if you find a good base map could you please let me know ive been looking for one also.

  7. 06-14-2008 12:18 AM #7
    ok, the car is idling good, between 1000 - 1250, with those injectors, I have the fuel value set at 126, I'll have to get the rest of the values posted.

  8. 06-17-2008 12:24 AM #8
    i wish i had wrote down the values cause I made some changes, minor though, new problem

    i some times get an rpm err on start up, I can cut the car off and sometimes it will register, but most time it doesn't. I go back can check the hall sender position and the magnets come as seen


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    06-17-2008 05:40 PM #9
    Re check the gap on the hall sender. I had the same problem. I closed the gap a litle and problem went away. Also, if you dont think you can tow your car by the hall sender mount...it is not strong enough!

  10. 06-18-2008 12:52 AM #10
    using the ross machine hall sender mount, I actually just spaced the pulley out so that I have a 2mm gap. I talked to sds today and they gave me some things to check. So, I will check all that stuff tomorrow.

  11. 06-19-2008 12:08 AM #11
    so I relieved some of the stress on the spark plug wires and the err never showed up, but it hasn't been on the road yet, maybe tomorrow I can get someone to go for a ride with me.

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    06-19-2008 02:27 PM #12
    Ya, RPM ERR is usually Hall sender. Even it being slightly off and not registering 100% of the time. I've always tuned my NA maps following the SDS guide and can tune them 90% pretty fast. Just rememeber to leave the vacuum values alone until the final end.
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  13. 06-19-2008 07:49 PM #13
    I have followed the manual pretty close, just need to get someone to ride with me so we can road tune it

  14. 07-03-2008 12:28 PM #14
    have a good base map, car did well at the track this past weekend till I overheated it (my fault), car runs great, just need to do some fine tuning, i'll post my values when I get a chance

  15. 07-13-2008 05:29 PM #15
    rpm fuel fuel value ign value
    500 110 10
    750 110 10
    1000 110 14
    1250 110 14
    1500 110 18
    1750 110 18
    2000 116 22
    2250 116 24
    2500 116 24
    2750 117 28
    3000 117 28
    3250 118 32
    3500 122 35
    3750 123 35
    4000 127 35
    4250 129 35
    4500 129 35
    4750 129 35
    5000 130 35
    5250 130 35
    5500 130 35
    5750 130 35
    6000 130 35
    6250 130 35
    6500 130 35
    6750 130 35
    7000 130 35
    7250 130 35
    7500 130 35
    8000 130 35
    8250 130 35
    8500 130 35


    you get the idea


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    07-13-2008 11:33 PM #16
    eric how was the map i sent you were you able to work off of it
    the mk4, mk5 crowd is a bunch of posers

  17. 07-16-2008 12:15 AM #17
    i used some of yours and some of a another and called Paul too, then I spun a rod bearing, did a bottom end rebuild, then forgot to tighten a coolant hose while at the track, so I haven't really worked on it for 2 weeks now, but I have a good map in there right now, just need to tweak it some to get the A/F a little less rich (sits at about 12.3 - 11.8).

  18. 07-16-2008 07:53 PM #18
    SNS?

    this is for SDS (simple digital systems)


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    04-17-2012 01:47 PM #19
    Sorry to dig this thread back up from the dead, guys, but I'm in need of a 16V NA base map as well! Any of you guys still have something laying around I can start from?

    The SDS I'm getting is set up for a turbo 16V, so I know I'll be in the ballpark, but any info is better than no info

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