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    Thread: 2009 Jetta TDI Starting at $21,990 and Jetta SportWagen TDI Starting at $23,590

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      06-18-2008 05:13 PM #1

      HERNDON, Va.—Volkswagen of America, Inc. today announced pricing for their eagerly anticipated Jetta TDI sedan and SportWagen starting at $21,990 and $23,590, respectively. Fuel efficiency, performance and convenience all come standard with the 50-state compliant Jetta sedan and SportWagen TDI, which meet the most stringent emissions standards in California and the world. Both models will be available this August.
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    2. 06-18-2008 05:17 PM #2
      it should definitely get more than the EPA estimated 29mpg in the city, since when we are racing the TDI Cup cars full throttle around the track, we still get 25mpg.

    3. 06-18-2008 05:24 PM #3
      Quote, originally posted by jshim »
      it should definitely get more than the EPA estimated 29mpg in the city, since when we are racing the TDI Cup cars full throttle around the track, we still get 25mpg.
      Are you serious? You an actual series racer? In my car, in DEs, I've measured out at like 10 mpg!

    4. 06-18-2008 05:54 PM #4
      Does anyone in the know if this TDI engine uses a timing chain? The "chain" would be one of the big deciding factors for me to go VW again..Thx!

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      06-18-2008 06:14 PM #5
      Quote, originally posted by Shinex1 »
      Are you serious? You an actual series racer? In my car, in DEs, I've measured out at like 10 mpg!

      He is, and I spoke with another series racer and he said right around 25mpg as well.
      My old 1.8t track/daily, my 2.0t daily, and my 2.0l(slow) track-only gassers all get about 10mpg @ the track.
      Really looking forward to the tdi wagon.........just got approval from the wife last night now to decide white or red!!!
      I've been losing lots of keys lately
      I don't know what that means but maybe
      I'd be better of with things that can't be locked at all

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      06-18-2008 06:51 PM #6
      fap fap... where's the rabbit tdi???
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      06-18-2008 07:05 PM #7
      free service for the first 3years/36k is cool but what happened to the 5year/50K warranty?

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      06-18-2008 07:14 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by focalBlur »
      free service for the first 3years/36k is cool but what happened to the 5year/50K warranty?

      What are you worried about. VWs are the most reliable cars in the world. (quickly put on flame suit)

      .... and wasn't the original 4yr/50k
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    9. 06-18-2008 08:12 PM #9
      Quote, originally posted by Shinex1 »
      Are you serious? You an actual series racer? In my car, in DEs, I've measured out at like 10 mpg!

      I am. you can see some pictures of our past TDI Cup races on my blog: http://www.rightfootdown.com
      being a representative for a company, it's imperative that you believe in the product you represent. I truly believe in the TDI cars and am probably going to purchase one myself. Good performance, great looks, and amazing gas mileage...the ultimate combo.
      with gas prices as they are right now, TDI seems like the smart choice. I've even seen some reports of some TDI owners getting near 1000 miles out of their 14.5 gallon tank.

      now if only i can get a TDI like this one @ VIR weekend:



      Modified by jshim at 12:23 PM 6-19-2008

    10. 06-18-2008 08:14 PM #10
      Quote, originally posted by B5V »
      Does anyone in the know if this TDI engine uses a timing chain? The "chain" would be one of the big deciding factors for me to go VW again..Thx!

      Belt. If the replacement interval is anything like it was on the outgoing P-D engine, it will not require replacement for 160,000 km / 100,000 miles.

    11. 06-18-2008 09:09 PM #11
      Heatable front seats are not available on the TDi?! That is so not right.

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      06-18-2008 09:25 PM #12
      Waaaaa Waaaaa Waaaaa!
      Let the crying begin!

    13. 06-18-2008 10:19 PM #13
      No other models?
      Tiguan would be awesome.

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      06-18-2008 10:33 PM #14
      Quote, originally posted by 87GTi »
      Heatable front seats are not available on the TDi?! That is so not right.

      Most people believe that is a typo, since all the other wagens have it, and the TDI obviously needs it the most.
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      06-18-2008 10:39 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by focalBlur »
      free service for the first 3years/36k is cool but what happened to the 5year/50K warranty?

      The powertrain warranty is still 5 years / 60,000 miles. Emissions-related stuff is warrantied much longer by state and federal laws.
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      06-18-2008 10:40 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by B5V »
      The "chain" would be one of the big deciding factors for me to go VW again..Thx!

      By the way, the new 2.0T gasser ("TSI") uses a timing chain.
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    17. 06-18-2008 11:03 PM #17
      Hurry up and start selling these cars!!! I need some competition for the diesel pump! I work with a fellow who needs one yesterday as his buick land yacht is on it's last legs... He drove my company TDI ('06 Jetta)on a road trip (600+ miles) and was sold on the TDI when he only had to fillup once. In his buick, driving ~330 miles per week to and from work, he has to refuel every 4th day. I drive about the same, and I refuel every 9 days at ~550 miles per tank. Fuel alone is costing me ~$0.12/mile. To run that cheap in a gasser, you need to get 34mpg with gasoline at $4.05/gallon. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      Good Move on getting an outside firm to do a secondary certification on the real world fuel economy! [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] I've thought the "New" EPA numbers (2008 method) were a little suspect based on the two TDI's in my driveway and what http://www.fueleconomy.gov thinks.

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      06-18-2008 11:43 PM #18
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      Leading third-party certifier, AMCI, has tested the Jetta TDI and found it performed 24 percent better in real world conditions, achieving 38 mpg in the City and 44 mpg on the Highway.

      Still not good enough.
      I'm done until they get it into the 50s on the highway and 40s in the city. It's sad because I really want a VW again. Maybe there will be something for me in a couple of years. Polo BlueMotion maybe?

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      06-19-2008 12:06 AM #19
      what are he hp/torque numbers on these??
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    20. 06-19-2008 12:21 AM #20
      Quote, originally posted by 85GTI »
      Still not good enough.
      I'm done until they get it into the 50s on the highway and 40s in the city. It's sad because I really want a VW again. Maybe there will be something for me in a couple of years. Polo BlueMotion maybe?

      don't be so quick to jump on the mileage yet...some reports say it does 50mpg city/hwy combined [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      http://www.popularmechanics.co....html
      Quote, originally posted by vdub_jetta »
      what are he hp/torque numbers on these??

      140hp/236trq

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      06-19-2008 12:45 AM #21
      Quote, originally posted by 85GTI »
      Still not good enough.
      I'm done until they get it into the 50s on the highway and 40s in the city. It's sad because I really want a VW again. Maybe there will be something for me in a couple of years. Polo BlueMotion maybe?

      So, are you riding a bike, instead?
      Anyway, with some air in the tires and a light foot, you'll get 50mpg+ on the highway.
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      06-19-2008 01:31 AM #22
      Quote, originally posted by 87GTi »
      Heatable front seats are not available on the TDi?! That is so not right.

      Cold weather package will be available [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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      06-19-2008 02:14 AM #23
      Quote, originally posted by feels_road »
      The powertrain warranty is still 5 years / 60,000 miles. Emissions-related stuff is warrantied much longer by state and federal laws.


      well I would have a hard time trusting it after my current 2005 MKV
      everything in my Jetta has been breaking since 40K
      I have had these things break since 40K(now at 46K)
      trunk latch
      Trunk gas struts
      driver side window motor
      pass side alarm LED
      front main seal
      rear arm rest
      sunroof switch is going up
      I do not abuse my car in fact I take very good care of it

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      06-19-2008 03:10 AM #24
      Except for your major accident...
      Sorry about your experience, but that is just one data point. Conversely, there are hundreds of thousands of very satisfied MkV owners, and even the stodgy Consumer Reports has given the Rabbit and Jetta its "recommended" nod.
      Seriously, go into any Honda, Toyota, Mazda, or Subaru board. You would think the world has come to an end. Of course, the reality is that many people who post seek advise concerning problems (they rarely post: "Oh, I am at 80,000 miles now, my engine is still running great, and so is my window regulator"). There are cars with way above statistically representative problems among all makes. Luckily, you don't have major problems like a Toyota-sludged engine, or a messed up Honda transmission just out of warranty.
      My Passat was a first-year model (I knew what I was getting into) and had several problems in the first two years, all covered under warranty. I always got a loaner, the place was on my way to work, so I didn't mind. Someone more sensitive to those issues should wait a couple of years before buying a car with an essentially new engine*. Since then, though, it has been faboulus, all with a great, low-cost of ownership --- like my Golf (270,000 miles combined).
      (*) I should add that things can get tricky, like the TDI or totally new 2.0T ("TSI") engine in new Passats/Eos/Tiguans/Jettas/GLIs/GTIs, although the cars have been around (in fact, the MkV Golf is replaced the end of this year), or new cars like the MkVI next year with old engines and transmissions...
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      06-19-2008 08:49 AM #25
      To ask some quick questions: This particular TDi engine has been around across the pond, correct? Trying to find out if it is truly a new engine or not. I didn't think it was.
      Does anyone have any info on good chip tuners for TDIs?

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