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    1. Member rubber-side-down's Avatar
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      05-18-2011 05:01 PM #1001
      what kinda filter/intakes are you guys running? reason why im asking is i'm running 2inch stacks on my dhla 40s right now and man are those carbs loud! and with my exhaust (tt race header and catless 2.5in exhaust) she's an attention getter
      83 rabbit GTI for sale 16v swap running dell 40 to many parts to list send pm $2700obo

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      05-18-2011 05:04 PM #1002
      If its loud out the carbs, then you gotta it tuned right! I do not runs filters on my 242. 2 inch horns and a plexi deflector to keep leaves and diamonds outta the motor. Plus, I have a cowl induction type hood.


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      05-18-2011 07:07 PM #1003
      I never drove the car much with filters. My current stacks are 75 mm (3" ~ish). They're not on the car currently though.
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      05-20-2011 02:34 PM #1004
      I'm gonna have to run mine with filters. It'll be a DD, or nearly so. Right now I'm dailying the Cagiva Gran Canyon I bought this past weekend (saved me $15 in gas this week already... it'll have paid for its insurance by mid next week). But yeah, with where I live and how I use the car, filters are a must.

      So yeah, can't remember if I've updated y'all on my project status... used the Colortune I bought to figure out that one of the injectors is clogged and the other three are patterning poorly (that is an awesome tool!). Over $250 for new injectors... that exceeds my $100 threshold, so I'm gonna order the Weber kit. I'm just waiting to pull the trigger until I sell some things... my wife likes seeing me excited about projects, so she's cool with me buying toys, but the agreement is we have to meet our other obligations without accruing any debt. I have a parts list for the carb swap totaling around $1400, not including random hardware (hose clamps, hoses, fasteners, etc).

      Gonna do the Weber K407 kit, Filter King regulator, use the stock in-tank pump, Mallory 6AL ignition with stock knock box, and AutoMeter "Ultra-Lite Pro" wideband O2 sensor & gauge. I'll use basic hoses and clamps until I get it all set up and know my lengths, then I'll get Aeroquip or Russell stainless-braided hoses and anodized fittings so it looks professional.

      Question: Am I gonna need to run a new fuel line all the way from the tank to the pressure regulator, or is there a way to connect the existing lines at the CIS pump housing and connect the factory line to the Filter King? If I have to tear everything apart to get to the tank, I may change my mind and go with the standalone Carter pump and delete the in-tank unit. What do you guys do for a fuel pickup when using the Carter pump?

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      05-20-2011 03:12 PM #1005
      I drive a Rabbit, the fuel feed is at the bottom of the tank. No in-tank for me, sorry .

      To delete the under car stuff, just remove the pump/box and lines to the tank. You should be able to run new line from the tank to the existing lines. It's a bit of a fiddle, but waaaaaaaay easier than running new lines all the way to the front. That's how I did it when I went in-tank in a previous Mk2 turbo project.
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      05-23-2011 04:55 PM #1006
      The Volvo is my Daily, it runs with no filters and has for the last 3 years or so, minus a few engine swaps in the pursuit of more power.

      As far as the in-tank, what you could do is run your fuel pump line to the return port on the fuel sender if you want to delete the in-tank. I think its a waste. keep your in-tank, it helps lifts the fuel from the bog and relieves some stress on the external pump. OR- do what we all do, run just an intank pump... issues solved.

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      05-24-2011 09:07 PM #1007
      Yeah, my current plan is to use the stock in-tank pump and just run that to the Malpassi/Filter King regulator. It's a high-volume low pressure pump... and since I only need a couple PSI, it should be fine. I was just asking for the sake of curiosity... and in case I needed a backup plan. You know how it is working on cars: things rarely go according to plan.

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      05-27-2011 04:29 PM #1008
      Whoa... very kewl. Where did you get that valve cover and what brand/type is it?

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      06-05-2011 04:32 PM #1009
      just finished my setup, its alive ! just need some tuning. crappy cell pic


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      06-05-2011 04:42 PM #1010
      looks clean!

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      06-05-2011 08:47 PM #1011
      Quote Originally Posted by vwgroundpilot View Post
      Yeah, my current plan is to use the stock in-tank pump and just run that to the Malpassi/Filter King regulator. It's a high-volume low pressure pump... and since I only need a couple PSI, it should be fine. I was just asking for the sake of curiosity... and in case I needed a backup plan. You know how it is working on cars: things rarely go according to plan.
      i used my stock in tank pump, cloged the return line and ive ran a new line from the pressure side of the pump to the carter pump in the engine bay with a holley regulator ( in the stock location where the old metal hoses are wich i have removed )

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      06-07-2011 02:41 PM #1012
      Quote Originally Posted by hantonyc View Post
      i used my stock in tank pump, cloged the return line and ive ran a new line from the pressure side of the pump to the carter pump in the engine bay with a holley regulator ( in the stock location where the old metal hoses are wich i have removed )
      So you have the stock in-tank pump powered on and feeding the Carter unit?

      You'll have to keep us up to speed on how it works out over time.
      Last edited by vwgroundpilot; 06-15-2011 at 04:41 PM.

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      06-15-2011 03:22 PM #1013
      Quote Originally Posted by vwgroundpilot View Post
      So you have the stock in-tank pump powered on and feeding the Carter unit?

      You'll have to us up to speed on how it works out over time.
      Why does that cause concern? I'm also running intank and 2 outer pumps. Main reason... I have 2 systems now- one efi and one carb. all i do is switch at the tee between both outer pumps. The EFI one has the return to tank. Makes engine swaps so much easier now.

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      06-15-2011 04:44 PM #1014
      Why does that cause concern? I'm also running intank and 2 outer pumps. Main reason... I have 2 systems now- one efi and one carb. all i do is switch at the tee between both outer pumps. The EFI one has the return to tank. Makes engine swaps so much easier now.
      I'm just uncertain of how the stock in-tank pump would interact with the Carter external pump. Also, for my case where I don't need the flexibility to swap back and forth, having two pumps creates an unnecessary additional point of failure.

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      06-15-2011 11:39 PM #1015
      i'm not clear.... Why does the original vw setup have 2 pumps?? think bout it.

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      06-15-2011 11:59 PM #1016
      the OEM setup was made because the stock bosch pumps that were mounted externally really were not meant to lift out the fuel from the tank. Once the fuel was to that pump its main job was to force volume up to the front. (60 to 90 psi on some cars). Im sure a big reason people abandon the intank pump is because the carters are capable of 30 inches worth of lift. Which is more than enough to draw from the tank. I left mine in working condition just to make it easier to prime should there ever be a flow back to the tank. As for how it interacts? Its just more of a prime pump now. It kicks on but serves no purpose once the carter has suction.

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      07-09-2011 02:51 PM #1017
      Most excellent combo of pieces my friend!

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      07-09-2011 03:53 PM #1018
      thank you for the power steering bracket idea B4S.



      hope to have it running by fall.

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      07-11-2011 08:59 AM #1019
      Quote Originally Posted by _WCHLVR_ View Post
      Most excellent combo of pieces my friend!
      thanks
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      07-14-2011 09:33 PM #1020
      Made a huge mistake today!!! Freaking button on my shirt popped off into the intake, and not the throttle plate is fubar. Awesome

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      07-14-2011 11:04 PM #1021
      FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU......

      Dude, that sucks . Replacement?
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      07-15-2011 08:40 AM #1022
      I'm hoping i have an extra. these are the ones with the reliefs cut into the blades for quicker progressive response, no chokes.

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      07-15-2011 09:10 AM #1023
      ****. I've got them in my current universals, but no spares.

      40's right?
      http://www.dellorto.co.uk/merchandis...artsectionID=1
      I love ordering from these guys, super fast shipping and great service .
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      07-15-2011 09:49 AM #1024
      Aw SNAP! You are the man. Is it my internet fubar?? I click on the "buy" ...nothing happens.

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      07-15-2011 06:31 PM #1025
      Hmm, I had to do it the long way to get it to work, odd. That's never happened before.

      Go into "Dellorto car carburetors", and then into "DHLA Parts". You'll find them in there. I seriously love these guys for Dell parts. Never had a bad transaction, and I've spent thousands over the years, lol.
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