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    Thread: The "Unofficial" DSG Issues Thread

    1. 04-19-2009 06:37 AM #126
      I will as soon as I pull it. Should be a week today, as I'm waiting on a few backordered parts.

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      04-21-2009 09:06 PM #127
      Everyone with this problem, can you post the build dates of your car? Maybe we can see if the problem is localized in a certain set of months/years

    3. 04-21-2009 10:09 PM #128
      From what I've seen it's 2008 on up. I got my entire DSG replaced in late 2007 so I believe I got one of the bad ones. Removing the mech this weekend so lots of pictures for everyone. Me thinks VW went with the lowest bidder on this new batch of units, and doubt anything will be rectified (other than short term) until they run out of the bad batch


      Modified by twinkers at 4:20 AM 4-22-2009

    4. 04-22-2009 03:36 AM #129
      mine also 2008

    5. 04-22-2009 03:20 PM #130
      06 mkv gti
      53k
      after car is warmed up about ,10 to 15 min of driving, i get a belt slipping noise for a moment from underneath the car whenever the rpms begin to drop. everything is working fine and checked all belts and the dealership has no idea what it is and i beleive it is coming from the dsg. wondering if this sounds like a dsg problem or im shooting in the wrong direction.

    6. 04-22-2009 04:21 PM #131
      LOL. I have that too, in addition to my mechatronics problem. Do you only hear it in 5th and 6th gear by chance?

    7. 04-22-2009 08:09 PM #132
      so I just got my mechatronics unit replaced. Luckily, I only had to wait a three days for the unit to come in. I spoke to the service advisor and he told me that VW started to get additional units produced as they are aware there are failures out there. He also stated that the QTM who came to see both my car and an EOS at the dealer said there were a certain number of cars within a specific range of VIN numbers that VW is aware of that WILL fail. Therefore, what we all figured was correct, there's a specific batch of mech units out there that are defective.
      Don't know how reliable this info is, but I figured I'd pass along the word. Also, my car is shifting smoother than I can remember. Hopefully, I won't have any problems from here on it.

    8. 04-22-2009 11:37 PM #133
      Quote, originally posted by crabbedcarp »
      so I just got my mechatronics unit replaced. Luckily, I only had to wait a three days for the unit to come in. I spoke to the service advisor and he told me that VW started to get additional units produced as they are aware there are failures out there. He also stated that the QTM who came to see both my car and an EOS at the dealer said there were a certain number of cars within a specific range of VIN numbers that VW is aware of that WILL fail. Therefore, what we all figured was correct, there's a specific batch of mech units out there that are defective.
      Don't know how reliable this info is, but I figured I'd pass along the word. Also, my car is shifting smoother than I can remember. Hopefully, I won't have any problems from here on it.

      3 Days?? I have been waiting 5 weeks!! What's the name of your dealer?

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      04-23-2009 10:02 AM #134
      Seems like I got lucky and had my mechatronic unit replaced at a good time.
      i took my car in 2 days ago and they had a mechatronic unit shipped to them overnight and they said it might be finished today
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    10. 04-23-2009 10:13 AM #135
      Yeah that sucks to hear man. My dealer is Langan VW in Vernon,CT. Good thing I took the advice of everyone here and switched dealers. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    11. 04-23-2009 01:12 PM #136
      actually i have the noise in all gears

    12. 04-23-2009 01:14 PM #137
      actually it happens in all gears

    13. 04-23-2009 02:40 PM #138
      Quote, originally posted by crabbedcarp »
      Yeah that sucks to hear man. My dealer is Langan VW in Vernon,CT. Good thing I took the advice of everyone here and switched dealers. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      I called your dealer and spoke to Juan. What a great place to deal with! He was quite helpful and checked all my info out. He told me to call VW customer service and actually located a part in Canada. I called my local dealer and they said it was reserved retention status or something but it seems like I am getting somewhere. I'm waiting on the local parts manager to call back now and VW Customer Service said they'd have a Rep call me by tomorrow with the order status. I think the dealers are just lazy and they don't care but sometimes you find a good one out there. Apparently, Langan VW is one of the good ones.
      We will see what happens and I'll keep everyone posted. Week 6 has passed and we are working on week 7.

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      04-24-2009 02:00 AM #139
      I have a MY09 with a mfg. date of 05/08 with 3600 miles.
      I drove the car around today for an hour or so paying attention to jerky 3-2-1 downshifts, as well as jerky N-1 starts.
      N-1 doesnt seem especially jerky, though there is a slight lag from releasing the brake pedal to the start of movement - I would estimate half a second or so. But, the movement isnt so jerky as to be out of control or dangerous.
      On previous occasions, I have noticed especially jerky 3-2-1 downshifts, but driving in D, S, and M today, I didn't notice any.
      When were your cars manufactured and at what mileage did you start noticing this problem?

    15. 04-24-2009 11:04 AM #140
      1. GTI MY08 mfg date 11/07
      2. 19,000kms
      3. It's doing the typical hard lurch when starting, and reverse sometimes doesn't engage properly. Also experiencing occasional hard 2-3 shifts.
      I've been experiencing the problem on and off since 16,000kms. It's going to the dealer next week.

    16. 04-24-2009 11:50 AM #141
      Awesome! I'm glad you're making some progress. Juan was also the first person I spoke to when I was thinking about going over there. He's really helpful. Good luck with everything.
      Quote, originally posted by fuforums »
      I called your dealer and spoke to Juan. What a great place to deal with! He was quite helpful and checked all my info out. He told me to call VW customer service and actually located a part in Canada. I called my local dealer and they said it was reserved retention status or something but it seems like I am getting somewhere. I'm waiting on the local parts manager to call back now and VW Customer Service said they'd have a Rep call me by tomorrow with the order status. I think the dealers are just lazy and they don't care but sometimes you find a good one out there. Apparently, Langan VW is one of the good ones.
      We will see what happens and I'll keep everyone posted. Week 6 has passed and we are working on week 7.

      On another note, I know I read somewhere in one of these DSG threads that after the mech unit was replaced the person was having a problem with their radio. I seem to have the same issue since my auxillary port won't come up when I hit the cd button twice. Anyone have any ideas?

    17. 04-24-2009 10:05 PM #142
      1. 2008 GTI (purchased in Apr, 08 so not sure of exact mfr. date.)
      2. 19500 miles
      3. Around last summer, started to get some surging when creeping in 1st gear. Usually around a parking lot with people and cars moving around and also on a hot day. Figured it was just not used to creeping at that speed and maybe the fluid was really warm. Winter time, no issues, DSG works like a charm (also seems to always work great for the first 5 minutes after starting after having not been driven in a while, regardless of temperature).
      Now as the weather is starting to warm up again, its more noticeable that something is not right. Creeping in 1st is choppy. Starting from a full-stop (most noticeably on an incline), it is choppy and sometimes even 'bucks', like it missed catching the gear or something. Reverse is very choppy and inconsistent and also causes the bucking. Once in 2nd gear moving forward, it shifts fine all the way up to 6th and back down to 1st, in D or M.
      My 20k service is coming up soon and I'm going to be sure to drive it around for a while before taking it in so that if they claim this is normal, they can take it out with me and that thing will chop and buck up any hill guaranteed, in D or R.
      I love this transmission, but I have lost some love for the car now cause I know it's not right. I hope VW is on track to solve why so many of these mechatronic units seem to be falling out of calibration or just plain failing. I also hope I can find a dealership that is aware of the problem and knows what to look for as soon as I say the word mechatronic.

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      04-25-2009 12:08 AM #143
      Thanks guys, keep the info coming. Your car's birthday (manufacture date ) can be found in the doorsill of the driver's door

    19. 04-25-2009 03:39 PM #144
      It seems that these mechatronic units are mass produced resulting in bad batches, possibly dry joints on the pc boards (Surface mount technology) its like components are "Spot welded" in place,resulting in "hot connections" when the unit heats up, causing a bad connection. A thorough inspection should be done under a magnifing glass to check for similar faults cropping up, and remedied.
      A faulty mechatronic control unit could cause harm in the transmission, causing early metal fatigue, warping of shafts (running out of true), etc.
      Mmmm, just my 2 cents worth Automotive Electrician working for a Global player - having seen some mind boggling things in the electronics industry.

    20. 04-26-2009 09:50 PM #145
      Quote, originally posted by Proteor leg »
      It seems that these mechatronic units are mass produced resulting in bad batches, possibly dry joints on the pc boards (Surface mount technology) its like components are "Spot welded" in place,resulting in "hot connections" when the unit heats up, causing a bad connection. A thorough inspection should be done under a magnifing glass to check for similar faults cropping up, and remedied.
      A faulty mechatronic control unit could cause harm in the transmission, causing early metal fatigue, warping of shafts (running out of true), etc.
      Mmmm, just my 2 cents worth Automotive Electrician working for a Global player - having seen some mind boggling things in the electronics industry.

      Why make an inspection when they can charge 1900.00 for the part when I breaks?

    21. 04-26-2009 09:58 PM #146
      Quote, originally posted by crabbedcarp »
      Awesome! I'm glad you're making some progress. Juan was also the first person I spoke to when I was thinking about going over there. He's really helpful. Good luck with everything.
      On another note, I know I read somewhere in one of these DSG threads that after the mech unit was replaced the person was having a problem with their radio. I seem to have the same issue since my auxillary port won't come up when I hit the cd button twice. Anyone have any ideas?

      How about this:
      I called Juan, he told me to call VW Customer Care. Well, I yelled at a lot of people, I don't even know how many. The next morning I get a voice mail from my local parts guy at the dealer stating that the unit has been located and it will be shipped by Monday and should arrive Thursday at the latest. Funny how that all happened just after I called all these people.
      Then, Later Thursday afternoon I get a call from Customer Care and they tell me the same thing. Then she goes through this spiel about how this "megatronic" unit "is made to every exact option on YOUR car only and will not work with any car, that's why it takes 6 weeks to make". I argued with her and told her she's crazy if she really thinks that it takes that long and has to be made to match my car (which is not in Germany where they are making it) and so she tells me I'm wrong but then I explained how terrible VW service is in general and why Honda sells so many cars to teenagers and young people and not VW. I also told her that everyone knows that VW's are the worst if they break and so many people loved them at one time but now hate them. Anyways, I know it's not her making up the lies but she typed it all down and so I let her go. Maybe VW will read some of it. Who knows.
      So my car should be fixed Exactly 6 weeks to the day after the mechatronics unit was ordered and EXACTLY 4 days after I called and complained to everyone who answered the phone. How convenient. We will see. Thanks for your help.

    22. 04-27-2009 08:33 PM #147
      Wolfsburg Jetta - 2008
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      From a dead stop when you let off the pedal it seems like it is neutral for a second and then the transmission engages and produces a sudden jerk. Have noticed it only does this when it is warm. It also is really jerky in reverse after it it warmed up.
      It is at the dealer right now. The turbo was throwing codes but after those were cleared the problem still exists. They were going to check the transmission fluid level but was to hot to get an accurate reading. So they are keeping it.
      I had a chance to talk to the shop foreman who was working on it and he got it to do what I described and knows it is not right. He seems to be quite knowledgeable. I know there is a certain order they have to diagnose things but I felt much better after talking with him, he assured me they would get it fixed.
      Updates to come.

    23. 04-27-2009 10:12 PM #148
      Fu...you smoke a mean pipe...Honda sells cars to teens because you can buy aftermarket parts at your local quik-e-mart, they are cheap to maintain and cookie cutter. VW sells cars to people who want something more than a rice burner.

    24. 04-27-2009 11:40 PM #149
      Quote, originally posted by RPIJG »
      Fu...you smoke a mean pipe...Honda sells cars to teens because you can buy aftermarket parts at your local quik-e-mart, they are cheap to maintain and cookie cutter. VW sells cars to people who want something more than a rice burner.

      Teenage and college girls? I don't think they care about cold air intakes. Their parents buy them because they are dependable and they last and they don't have the horrible reputation that VW has. I'll bet Honda and Toyota has ten times the repeat buyers that VW has. Lots of people buy a VW for the looks, styling, and diesels but how many come back and buy another one? Probably not as many.
      I'm selling the Beetle as soon as it gets out of the shop and getting a Touareg V10 TDi. If that gives me problems like this one I'm pretty much done with VW. Let's hope for the best.

    25. 04-27-2009 11:55 PM #150
      Quote, originally posted by fuforums »
      Teenage and college girls? I don't think they care about cold air intakes. Their parents buy them because they are dependable and they last and they don't have the horrible reputation that VW has. I'll bet Honda and Toyota has ten times the repeat buyers that VW has. Lots of people buy a VW for the looks, styling, and diesels but how many come back and buy another one? Probably not as many.
      I'm selling the Beetle as soon as it gets out of the shop and getting a Touareg V10 TDi. If that gives me problems like this one I'm pretty much done with VW. Let's hope for the best.

      YES, please sell your VW, cancel your Vortex account and go buy that awesome Honda you want. In the meantime, we understand you're frustrated. But plain and simple, you are coming across as a douche.
      Every car manufacturer has problems, they all produce lemons on occasion. But spouting off the BS that you've been posting is both ignorant and ridiculous. As one guy said above, we're in this thread because we are the minority that have had issues. The *minority*.

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