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    Thread: The "Unofficial" DSG Issues Thread

    1. 04-27-2009 11:59 PM #151
      Quote, originally posted by 334lif3 »
      YES, please sell your VW, cancel your Vortex account and go buy that awesome Honda you want. In the meantime, we understand you're frustrated. But plain and simple, you are coming across as a douche.
      Every car manufacturer has problems, they all produce lemons on occasion. But spouting off the BS that you've been posting is both ignorant and ridiculous. As one guy said above, we're in this thread because we are the minority that have had issues. The *minority*.

      What about it is BS?
      VW's have one of the lowest service ratings in the world. Their parts and repair prices are super high. Nothing should take 6 weeks to fix.
      If you don't like what I say you don't have to resort to name calling. Using the word "douche" is not necessary. Maybe you should ignore my posts and go back to selling "ipod kits". Your input wasn't requested.

    2. 04-28-2009 12:04 AM #152
      Quote, originally posted by fuforums »
      What about it is BS?
      VW's have one of the lowest service ratings in the world. Their parts and repair prices are super high. Nothing should take 6 weeks to fix.
      If you don't like what I say you don't have to resort to name calling. Using the word "douche" is not necessary. Maybe you should ignore my posts and go back to selling "ipod kits". Your input wasn't requested.

      The BS is the comparison between Honda and VW. If you love Honda so much, then get a Honda and leave the VW forums. Makes sense doesn't it.
      I'm subbed to the thread because I want to hear about useful information regarding this problem. So I get an email for every post made in this thread.
      Sorry your dealer is taking 6 weeks. Mine said three and even told me the date the part was expected to arrive. I can't blame VW for wanting to ship the parts as cheaply as possible. But this sounds more like an issue with your dealer than a VW specific issue.

    3. 04-28-2009 11:09 AM #153
      I like to look at it from this perspective.
      Honda's mainstream vehicles have offered very few innovative features, save maybe VTEC.
      VW constantly pushes the envelope with their car design and engineering. When you push the envelope there are always bound to be problems somewhere.
      Can I buy a sport handling, 200bhp/200ft-lb with a premium gearbox from honda? Nope...the SI is only thing roughly in this class, and frankly, they aren't as nice.
      Your comparisons to Honda are faulty. VW has many, many repeat customers because they offer something that other manufacturers do not, and that is great handling, well powered vehicles that have a distinctly european feel, that drive for the most part like well-behaved european cars.
      Do I concede that Honda's/Toyota's are more reliable for the most part? Sure, do I think that a VW is so bad that it isn't worth owning? No. It's a cost/benefit analysis. To me the reward is well worth it.

    4. 04-28-2009 11:33 AM #154

      Hey, all of you talking about Honda's vs VW's. Can you do that in another thread? - I am subscribed to this thread to learn about DSG issues, not Honda vs XYZ.
      Thank you
      Also, please don't reply - it just creates more useless traffic.

    5. 04-28-2009 05:15 PM #155
      On Saturday night my PRNDS were blinking, restarted the car, same problem, figured, screw it, it was late I was tired...blah blah blah, so sunday morning I go and start the car still doing it. I put the car in P, remove my foot from the brake and hear an audible click come from the shifter area, put the car back in gear and the problem went away, I think perhaps the electric safety switch may have gotten stuck.

    6. 04-28-2009 06:48 PM #156
      Quote, originally posted by RPIJG »
      On Saturday night my PRNDS were blinking, restarted the car, same problem, figured, screw it, it was late I was tired...blah blah blah, so sunday morning I go and start the car still doing it. I put the car in P, remove my foot from the brake and hear an audible click come from the shifter area, put the car back in gear and the problem went away, I think perhaps the electric safety switch may have gotten stuck.

      Maybe it was nothing but that problem is the dreaded DSG failure. If it happens again you might as well bring it in for a long wait. The sooner the better.

    7. 04-28-2009 09:30 PM #157
      It's happened to me twice, and both times was fixed the same way. I don't think it has anything to do with the DSG as the car runs/shifts fine even with the PRNDS blinking. Just pointing out that there is a potential that some of the "catastrophe's" may not be, they could be part of a faulty safety switch.

    8. 05-01-2009 07:28 AM #158
      Update:
      Tuesday they finished their tests and ordered the Mechatronics. Now just have to wait for it.

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      05-01-2009 10:41 AM #159
      Took my dealer a week to fix my mechatronic unit.
      I have a 2009 VW GTI (Im not sure about the build date, but I can get that later)
      i had the unti replaced at 13k miles, however it had been acting up for a while.
      I had really bad lurching in 1st gear and R gear (in "D" mode not sport or manual).
      I asked the techs to show me what the bill would have been if it wasnt covered under warranty and it ended up being $3300
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    10. 05-03-2009 12:11 PM #160
      Quote, originally posted by ViRtUaLheretic »
      Took my dealer a week to fix my mechatronic unit.
      I have a 2009 VW GTI (Im not sure about the build date, but I can get that later)
      i had the unti replaced at 13k miles, however it had been acting up for a while.
      I had really bad lurching in 1st gear and R gear (in "D" mode not sport or manual).
      I asked the techs to show me what the bill would have been if it wasnt covered under warranty and it ended up being $3300

      Mine was 2600.00 and took 7 weeks to be fixed. My dealer is an idiot so hopefully most are not. Drives good now but I can't afford fuel anymore.

    11. 05-06-2009 07:05 PM #161
      Just had the Mechatronic replaced on our 08 Eos (14500 miles, been acting up since 13000 or so). Took 3 weeks for the parts to come in, drove the car while waiting. Cured all problems so far. Has anyone had to have the repair done again?

    12. 05-06-2009 07:18 PM #162
      My part took 3 weeks to come in also. My dealership (Delon, in Salem) told me exactly when the part would be in, and that's the day it arrived. I took the car in at noon and it was ready for pick up 2:30 the next day.
      I haven't done enough driving to see if it fixed the problem, but since the master tech did all the work, and is the guy that went out with me to demo the problem. I have to imagine the problem is no longer there. Otherwise he would not have signed off. It does seem to drive smooth in the 5-10 miles I've driven it.
      I asked for the old unit, but they said they have to send it in, otherwise they don't get covered for the warranty work.
      So if anyone has a mech unit they were able to get back, and you don't want it. I would love to peak inside one of these things. I'm an EE, hence the name. I'm willing to pay shipping for USPS.
      Let me know.

    13. 05-07-2009 12:16 PM #163
      Mechatronic unit for my 08 Gti on order

    14. 05-14-2009 09:08 AM #164
      Im not saying some DSGs dont have a problem. But just to let ya know. Im tired of havin cars come in with the same complaint! From people reading this forum! the next time I get a car in and has 1 mod to it. I will void that warranty. And if you think cause ur ECM flash doesnt say Revo or Atp or what ever on it your safe. NO you are not. Ill check the WSC and 2 MVB and ill know if it was chipped and who did it. so keep ur DSG complaint going and good luck!

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      05-14-2009 09:23 AM #165
      Quote, originally posted by 334lif3 »
      I asked for the old unit, but they said they have to send it in, otherwise they don't get covered for the warranty work.
      So if anyone has a mech unit they were able to get back, and you don't want it. I would love to peak inside one of these things. I'm an EE, hence the name. I'm willing to pay shipping for USPS.
      Let me know.

      If you really want to know what goes on inside the DSG, then I highly recommend this book:
      http://www.bentleypublishers.c....html
      It will tell you more than you ever want to know about the Mechatronics unit and the DSG as a whole. The best $30 you might ever spend. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      That other non-douche Mustang owner.

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      05-14-2009 10:25 AM #166
      Quote, originally posted by 1998gtis »
      Im not saying some DSGs dont have a problem. But just to let ya know. Im tired of havin cars come in with the same complaint! From people reading this forum! the next time I get a car in and has 1 mod to it. I will void that warranty. And if you think cause ur ECM flash doesnt say Revo or Atp or what ever on it your safe. NO you are not. Ill check the WSC and 2 MVB and ill know if it was chipped and who did it. so keep ur DSG complaint going and good luck!

      Dont like it? Quit your job.
      There was a legitament problem with my mechatronic unit and now that it has been replaced it works fine.
      Dont be an @ss and ruin somebodies warranty because you got sand in your vag-com
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    17. 05-14-2009 11:38 AM #167
      Quote, originally posted by 1998gtis »
      Im not saying some DSGs dont have a problem. But just to let ya know. Im tired of havin cars come in with the same complaint! From people reading this forum! the next time I get a car in and has 1 mod to it. I will void that warranty. And if you think cause ur ECM flash doesnt say Revo or Atp or what ever on it your safe. NO you are not. Ill check the WSC and 2 MVB and ill know if it was chipped and who did it. so keep ur DSG complaint going and good luck!

      What a bunch of BS this is!! Every transmission in a somewhat sporty vehicle should be able to withstand a little extra power. And, guess what, I bet my money on it that the chipping itself is NOT the cause of the majority of the failures. The dealers just want to hide themselves behind the SW reflash because they don't want to admit all the bugs aren't out of their transmission yet. There are countless DINAN supercharged BMW's and most of them had zero upgrades to their tranny without issues.
      What about all the cars with tranny issues that are bone stock? DSG still has occasional problems, period! If you don't want to fix it, well, people will buy another make then. Way to get yourself out of business in this economy...

      Modified by luciano136 at 8:39 AM 5-14-2009


      Modified by luciano136 at 8:40 AM 5-14-2009

    18. 05-14-2009 02:31 PM #168
      Quote, originally posted by 1998gtis »
      Im not saying some DSGs dont have a problem. But just to let ya know. Im tired of havin cars come in with the same complaint! From people reading this forum! the next time I get a car in and has 1 mod to it. I will void that warranty. And if you think cause ur ECM flash doesnt say Revo or Atp or what ever on it your safe. NO you are not. Ill check the WSC and 2 MVB and ill know if it was chipped and who did it. so keep ur DSG complaint going and good luck!

      Pure ignorance dude. The mech would not be the part that fails from too much power.
      Mine failed, and it failed early on, and my car is bone stock. Unless of course you count tint as a mod...

    19. 05-14-2009 02:32 PM #169
      Quote, originally posted by Slickvic »
      If you really want to know what goes on inside the DSG, then I highly recommend this book:
      http://www.bentleypublishers.c....html
      It will tell you more than you ever want to know about the Mechatronics unit and the DSG as a whole. The best $30 you might ever spend. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      That's not the point. I want to look at one that has failed. Looking through a book won't do me any good.

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      05-14-2009 05:12 PM #170
      Quote, originally posted by 334lif3 »
      That's not the point. I want to look at one that has failed. Looking through a book won't do me any good.


      Knowledge is power. BTW, I was just trying to help. Have a nice day.
      That other non-douche Mustang owner.

    21. 05-14-2009 05:18 PM #171
      Quote, originally posted by Slickvic »

      Knowledge is power. BTW, I was just trying to help. Have a nice day.

      Yeah, I was rude.
      I just want to see what is causing the failures. If this happens again, and I'm out of warranty, then I'll have to fix it myself. Would prefer to know what I was doing when it happened rather than try and debug when I really need my car.

    22. 05-14-2009 05:33 PM #172
      It's true, the warranty only can be voided if the part modified directly affected the part that the warranty needs service on. But, it's really hard to convince someone that tinkering with reprogramming didn't affect the mechatronics or any other computer related functions of the car. It'd be a tough case. But, if you mod your car then you are responsible for whatever it does. I agree that upping the HP and TQ probably won't affect the mechatronics unit in any way. I think mostly these have been from a bad batch from production.
      Point is you gotta be careful what you do especially when you're demanding that they fix it for free.

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      05-15-2009 03:26 PM #173
      Quote, originally posted by 334lif3 »
      Mine failed, and it failed early on, and my car is bone stock. Unless of course you count tint as a mod...

      I guess mine too failed because of the tint, oh but I have a "mod friendly" dealer that chose to replace it out of the goodness of their heart...what a d bag!

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      05-16-2009 12:26 AM #174
      2008 Jetta Wolfsburg 2.0T TSI Engine
      12,500 Miles
      Don't know build date, but I bought the car in August of 2008.
      DSG started to refuse to downshift at highway speeds, and the usual 2nd into 1st THUNK. Dealer concluded it was Mechatronics unit. Dealer has had car for almost 4 week,s, and they call me today to let me know that the wrong Mechatronics unit has finally arrived.
      They have decided to replace the ENTIRE TRANSMISSION, as a BRAND NEW ONE is available and will take less time to get than another Mechatronics unit.
      Should I be worried about these VW monkeys doing a complete transmission swap? Should I tell them to wait for another Mechatronics unit? Should I tell the stupid dealership to keep the damn car and get me a WOLFSBURG with a manual transmission?
      Thanks for any and all advice?
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    25. 05-16-2009 12:37 AM #175
      Quote, originally posted by HiTechCD »
      2008 Jetta Wolfsburg 2.0T TSI Engine
      12,500 Miles
      Don't know build date, but I bought the car in August of 2008.
      DSG started to refuse to downshift at highway speeds, and the usual 2nd into 1st THUNK. Dealer concluded it was Mechatronics unit. Dealer has had car for almost 4 week,s, and they call me today to let me know that the wrong Mechatronics unit has finally arrived.
      They have decided to replace the ENTIRE TRANSMISSION, as a BRAND NEW ONE is available and will take less time to get than another Mechatronics unit.
      Should I be worried about these VW monkeys doing a complete transmission swap? Should I tell them to wait for another Mechatronics unit? Should I tell the stupid dealership to keep the damn car and get me a WOLFSBURG with a manual transmission?
      Thanks for any and all advice?
      _- CD

      You're kidding right? They are offering to give you a BRAND NEW tranny and you're wondering if you should make a stink?
      Be VERY grateful.

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