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    Thread: Naturally Aspirated Top 1/4 Mile List.

    1. Geriatric Member need_a_VR6's Avatar
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      02-25-2009 04:06 PM #251
      Honestly I only check your cars for nitrous.
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    2. 02-25-2009 06:33 PM #252
      Quote, originally posted by billyVR6 »
      It takes some time, effort, and commitment to see things through.
      I still have respect for those who break into the 12's based on that alone.

      I agree, but I feel like there is a blueprint for making this happen at this point...if you can read, afford a few simple parts and drive it is attainable. It wont be destroying everyone else, but I feel like after yourself and Joe got it done in the GTi's that it is widespread and known what is necessary to make it happen. Paul went as far as to make a 'how-to' write up on making a 12 second VR. why it is so unbelievable that more than 2 or 3 people have done this now is what still gets me.


      Modified by GTIStile at 6:34 PM 2-25-2009

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      02-26-2009 02:00 PM #253
      For the record I went 12.81 on radials and backed it up with a .9
      While I feel a low 13 sec all motor car is pretty easy and there is a "recipe" that pretty much anyone should be able to follow in all fairness to those that have broken into the 12's I don't think such an accomplishment should be downplayed. Take a look at the list and count how many cars have gone low 13's and how many have gone 12's. The gap between 13.1 and 12.9 is bigger than the .2 seconds would make you believe. Guys like Billy, Joe, Paul, Palumbo, Chris A. all deserve credit for starting and keeping the all motor vr6 thing going.
      When I went 13.2x on radials with almost nothing done I thought damn this all motor thing isn't as hard as everyone makes it out to be. It took me rest of the season and a bunch of passes at the track to run better than that much less break into the 12's. At that point I realized how difficult it is to actually run a 12 in an all motor 12v.
      I say this not to discourage anyone from running all motor or to shoot for the 12's but just to give credit where credit is due. You don't need a ton of parts or money to get an all motor 12v to run hard but you do need dedication. I hope more people join in the fun this year - I would love nothing more than to see a full 12 second all motor field at one of the races this year. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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      02-26-2009 02:30 PM #254
      Quote, originally posted by vw1320 »
      For the record I went 12.81 on radials and backed it up with a .9

      For the record I remembered that just after I posted and swore a bunch.
      I agree with you as well, it doesn't take a lot of parts to get there, but a lot of time to get 'simple' dialed in well. It took me almost a year to barely bump into the 12's with those 262s but I learned a ton doing it. More then what I would have learned if I had made a bunch of changes to get there, even if I ended up with a quicker et.
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    5. 02-28-2009 02:10 PM #255
      /\ I wasnt trying to downplay anything about clicking off into the 12's. Unfortunately I never quite made it. Most of the work was done for me. Hell, I bolted slicks to the car the way i bought it with the stock tranny and clutch and had 13.0 after 2 track days. The longer I had it, the more tired the motor got and the lazier I got. Thing probably needed valve seals but my dedication dwindled (as did my wallet). Only reason I never had a 12 second pass in that car WAS lack of dedication, so there is ALOT to say about that for sure [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] to those who have, and [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] to those who are striving to make it happen.

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      03-10-2009 01:08 PM #256
      The tracks are opening back up - anyone make any passes yet?
      11.82@113 First and only All Motor 12v Street Car in the 11' s

    7. 03-10-2009 01:40 PM #257
      I've had trouble getting some new things together on the car, so I havnt yet. Soon tho... not that it's important in this thread

    8. 03-10-2009 06:37 PM #258
      I ran some 12.8's last month, nothing special. Hoping the track will be surfaced for this weekend. I was 60 footing high 1.8's since the track had bare concrete showing through the first hundred feet or so. If it's decent this weekend, I'm hoping to bump up.

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      03-13-2009 04:50 PM #259
      Good luck this weekend. Hoping to get out there soon myself. Show N Go is coming up soon and I'd like to make sure I am ready for it.
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      03-13-2009 04:58 PM #260
      i am putting a 12v together for a friend for show and go. hoping to get a 13.9 with just a intake/exhaust and radial. no cams or a chip. should be a lot of fun for him to get back out there. make the class more interersting
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    11. 03-13-2009 07:54 PM #261
      what chassis? I think it will be no problem if its anything short of full weight and dude can drive [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      03-14-2009 10:24 AM #262
      Quote, originally posted by MkIIRoc »
      If it's decent this weekend, I'm hoping to bump up.

      That would be awesome. Is the car still sitting the same as last time?
      I can't remember if you made any off season changes....


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      03-14-2009 01:57 PM #263
      I just washed my truck. loaded some things to go to the track, backed out to load it, and dropped a valve into cylinder #4. I guess I'll try again in a couple of weeks.

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      03-14-2009 09:37 PM #264
      Quote, originally posted by vw1320 »
      The tracks are opening back up - anyone make any passes yet?


      yeah but I have no reason to post the results here because nobody believes anything about my car
      either way I'm satisfied with the improvements and I know what the car can do

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      03-14-2009 09:52 PM #265
      Quote, originally posted by GTIStile »
      what chassis? I think it will be no problem if its anything short of full weight and dude can drive [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      MK3. we worked on it all day and were happy with the results. still have some stuff left to do but, the car rips for what it is. car still has A/C
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      03-14-2009 10:20 PM #266
      Quote, originally posted by XXX008XXX »
      MK3. we worked on it all day and were happy with the results. still have some stuff left to do but, the car rips for what it is. car still has A/C

      thats only cause i welded the exhaust

    17. 03-15-2009 10:13 PM #267
      Update for me...
      thought it was going to be a crappy day because it kept raining. Found out it's tough to drive a car back to the pits during a rain hold with no wipers and slicks and a touchy throttle!
      But about 20 minutes after the rain stopped, they let us run again. I wasn't expecting anything great, but aired the tires down to 7psi and launched harder and higher. edit: looked at the datalog this morning, and it's saying I was shifting at about 8300. I guess my tach is out of calibration or is picking up interference. The tach was reading around 8850 or so when I glanced at it.

      12.606@104.94
      and finally got into the 1.6's with a 1.699, haha. Squeaked that in.
      So make room at the top, this year is going to be good!!!




      Modified by MkIIRoc at 6:09 AM 3-16-2009

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      03-16-2009 08:28 PM #268
      You got the first list update of this season!
      Almost a full .20 off your previous best too. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    19. 03-16-2009 08:32 PM #269
      Sick man... [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      03-16-2009 08:38 PM #270
      Quote, originally posted by skydaman »
      yeah but I have no reason to post the results here because nobody believes anything about my car

      If you have an update just post up the time slip.
      To hell with everything else, sooner or later those that question will see the car first hand.
      The rumors, hate, whatever, are just a dead horse at this point.
      Quote, originally posted by bvillelounge »
      I just washed my truck. loaded some things to go to the track, backed out to load it, and dropped a valve into cylinder #4. I guess I'll try again in a couple of weeks.

      Definitely looking forward to seeing some times from that truck.



      Modified by billyVR6 at 9:06 PM 3-16-2009

    21. 03-17-2009 11:15 PM #271
      i'll be running NA tommorow 1/8th mile... Nitrously Aspirated this **** is SWEET on this rig [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      03-20-2009 11:23 PM #272
      haha nice. ill be out on the 28th and 29th to get some better times in. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      getting some weight off and getting things squared away right now. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      can't wait to tear up the track again

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      03-21-2009 12:57 AM #273
      Update for me

      2330lbs Street Stock trim (2 seats, interior from the front seats forward, exhaust, etc)
      60ft 1.739
      330 5.134
      1/8th 7.968
      MPH 86.73
      1000 10.412
      1/4 12.501
      MPH 106.66
      Details in my thread in this forum for those that care.
      11.82@113 First and only All Motor 12v Street Car in the 11' s

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      03-21-2009 02:18 PM #274
      That's getting it done.
      First two list updates of the season; both close to .20 difference from previous best ET's.
      This season is off to a good start, looking forward to everyone getting into full swing.
      Quote, originally posted by crazydubman »
      ill be out on the 28th and 29th to get some better times in...
      ...getting some weight off and getting things squared away right now.

      Nice, you should see a lot more out of your car this season.
      Also, where did you end up dropping more weight from?
      The car seemed pretty thinned out as it was.


      Modified by billyVR6 at 2:57 PM 3-21-2009

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      03-24-2009 11:34 PM #275
      Another update for me. Changed from the 22x9x13 MH's on narrow ass rims to some 23x8x13 MH's on Lenso's (thanks again Killacoupe). No other changes from my 12.501@106.66 run.
      Took a couple passes of figuring out but on my fourth pass I went 12.317@109.64. Backed it up on the next pass with another 12.317@109.36. The pass before was a 12.372@109.30. Slips will be up as soon as I can get a good pic and host it. Until then the breakdown is -
      60ft 1.689
      330 5.018
      1/8 7.824
      MPH 87.45
      1000 10.250
      1/4 12.317
      MPH 109.64
      Weight should be the same 2330lbs as before - though the 23's do feel a little bit heavier than the 22's.
      11.82@113 First and only All Motor 12v Street Car in the 11' s

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