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    Thread: MK4/MKIV 2.0L 8v AEG/AZG -> 16v head swap

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      05-21-2009 12:06 PM #101
      do you have any non moving diagrams with measurements?
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      05-21-2009 03:18 PM #102
      ok.... I just got them to design the piece for me..... but one thing I didnt think about until now is y not just get a piece made that the same as the plastic flange and then weld the 16V piece to it then obviously cut off and well the other opening shut
      i dont know but it seems to me that would be a little cheaper?
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      05-21-2009 03:49 PM #103
      gruvenparts might help you out.

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      05-21-2009 04:08 PM #104
      Quote, originally posted by duke_seb »
      ok.... I just got them to design the piece for me..... but one thing I didnt think about until now is y not just get a piece made that the same as the plastic flange and then weld the 16V piece to it then obviously cut off and well the other opening shut
      i dont know but it seems to me that would be a little cheaper?

      That's fine until for whatever reason you need to replace the head. Then you have to have all that custom work done again.

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      05-21-2009 04:09 PM #105
      y would that be you can still unbolt the 16v flange and away you go
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      05-21-2009 04:20 PM #106
      this is what i mean
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      05-21-2009 11:57 PM #107
      Quote, originally posted by duke_seb »
      this is what i mean

      It took me a second to get on board with that idea, but it does seem like a cheaper alternative for us non-CAD-using folk! I was getting ready to try fab'ing something out of 1/2" aluminum plate by hand tomorrow... I think I'm going to try that instead. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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      05-22-2009 08:17 AM #108
      after thinking abot this some more.... i have to take a look at the 16v flange..... its at the machine shop..... I am going to see if i can cut both of the pipes on the flange and then weld both to the plate then you have 2 ports coming into the head
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      05-22-2009 03:39 PM #109
      alright i started on fabricating my version of the mount today here are some pictures

      i intend on welding that side hole shut
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      05-22-2009 03:54 PM #110
      Cool deal man! Why didn't you cut it closer to the head and eliminate that second tube altogether?
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      05-22-2009 03:56 PM #111
      i thought about that but then i wouldnt be able to get the bolts into the holes to put into the head
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      Cool deal man! Why didn't you cut it closer to the head and eliminate that second tube altogether?
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      05-22-2009 04:29 PM #112
      Roger that, thanks. Keep us posted as to how it works!
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      05-22-2009 04:33 PM #113
      i will.... i think im going to make another DIY for this.... with everything from replacing rod bearings to whatever use i have to do..... with lots of pictures
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      05-25-2009 02:47 PM #114
      alright i got the piece welded together today here are some pics


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      05-26-2009 03:16 PM #115
      Someone mentioned to me that I have a Rocco exhaust mani and that it appears you're using an A2 mani. I assume the Rocco one will not work?
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      05-27-2009 09:14 AM #116
      ok here is the question i have..... i ordered a 16V Fuel Rail from bahn brenner... but i dont think i have the right one.... can someone tell me if both of these will work?

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      do i have to have this part in order to make it work?


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      05-27-2009 12:32 PM #117
      Quote, originally posted by duke_seb »
      do i have to have this part in order to make it work?

      Yes.
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      05-27-2009 03:43 PM #118
      BBM told me I could use either one of those adapters. they said you only need the canister style if you want to retain the stock MkIV reg. Might give them a call for more details, but i'm sure you can make it work.
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      05-27-2009 08:56 PM #119
      OK im looking through the bentley and I have a BEV engine correct me if im wrong here but with the BEV the FPR is part of the fuel filter back by the tank..... I just want to be sure before i do this but i should be able to run the fuel line right to the fuel rail without a FPR Adaptor correct?
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      05-27-2009 09:00 PM #120
      here is an example of what my engine looks like
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      05-27-2009 09:29 PM #121
      Quote, originally posted by duke_seb »
      here is an example of what my engine looks like

      Huh. Makes sense to me. My car has the FPR there at the end of the rail so I went with the "canister" adapter.
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      05-27-2009 09:32 PM #122
      if thats the case.... it looks like the BEV and BBW engine is a litle easier
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      05-27-2009 09:36 PM #123
      Quote, originally posted by Shifty »
      Huh. Makes sense to me. My car has the FPR there at the end of the rail so I went with the "canister" adapter.

      my MKIII had it at the end too.... when i popped the hood to do some research i thought i was retarted.... I was like.... where they hell is that stupid thing..... i was following the fuel line and everything.... went back to the bentley and i noticed it was missing from the BBW engine diagram..... and then i thought OMG i have the dredded BBW..... but from what i can tell BBW only came on Jettas..... but then i verfied it in the car and in the manual that BEV and BBW both have the FPR back in the tank
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      05-27-2009 09:47 PM #124
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      if thats the case.... it looks like the BEV and BBW engine is a litle easier

      until you want to upgrade your fueling

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      05-27-2009 09:47 PM #125
      im not planning anything special..... just want to have a stock 16V
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