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      09-25-2012 07:36 PM #4831
      Quote Originally Posted by GrkPranksta69 View Post
      ^^ That's a beauty, CMP I presume?
      Yep. Special grade. The receiver is from '43, I think.

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      09-25-2012 11:05 PM #4832
      Quote Originally Posted by Señor Peligro View Post
      What's that, a Sigma? If you need mags, I have TONS of them for cheap.
      SD series.

      Quote Originally Posted by GrkPranksta69 View Post
      If I'm not mistaken it's a SD9 which is supposed to be the Sigma/M&P mix to be cheaper than M&P but better then the Sigma. Not sure if it takes same mags though
      Right. Trickle-down from the M&P series and supposedly the Sigma series will be phased out completely and it will be SD/M&P; looking at the website, S&W no longer shows the Sigma at all. Any new ones must be NOS at this point I suppose.

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      Oh, right on. I'm oblivious to the SW semi-autos for the most part.


      Quote Originally Posted by GrkPranksta69 View Post
      Just checked it out and Sigma mags supposedly fit fine in these SD9s. M&P mags dont
      For the most part, the SD is a Sigma frame with slight alterations it seems, with new slide and internals and design carried over from the M&P series as well. I think it is cool if S&W planned for users of the Sigma to upgrade to an improved platform and have backward compatibility with mags; if not, that's cool it works. Looking at Apex Tactical's site, their SD kit is only springs, no mention of sear or sear block like in the DCAEK and Competition kits. I'm thinking of picking one up in 9mm to have as a low-cost alternative to my M&P45.

      Also: The current SDs are 2nd-gen so to speak, as the first ones that came out had Melonite finish available as well and came standard with night sights but sold at a slightly higher price. The current offerings are only in black frame/stainless slide and stardard 3-dot sights, but I believe any sights for the M&P work on these.
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    3. 09-25-2012 11:20 PM #4833
      ya its the sd9 ve, pretty much the sigmas replacement. ive shot the sigma before and this is loads better. the trigger is alot smoother and the accuracy right out of the box is great.

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      09-26-2012 12:05 AM #4834
      Quote Originally Posted by bmxbum76 View Post
      ya its the sd9 ve, pretty much the sigmas replacement. ive shot the sigma before and this is loads better. the trigger is alot smoother and the accuracy right out of the box is great.
      Good to hear. Before my household was only .45, but now 9mm has worked its way in and I'm deciding between a revolver in 38/357 or something like the SD9. Line of thinking on the SD9 is: If worst comes to worst, and I have to use it in a DGU, I'd rather lose that to the Evidence Locker than my M&P that I have twice as much invested in as far as work done to it and money. I got the M&P for SD/HD but the more I think about it, I'd rather have it as a backup to a lower-cost SD/HD platform.

      Also, 9mm is a lot cheaper than 45 and I can 'borrow' from my family members' stocks as well.
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    5. 09-26-2012 02:56 AM #4835
      In a HD/SD scenario you want whatever you shoot best in your hand, no questions asked. However, I always try to run double rifles/double handguns. This is also why I laugh when people carry $3,000 1911's for defense.

      A $500 polymer handgun is reasonable.

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      09-26-2012 04:57 AM #4836
      Quote Originally Posted by Elbows View Post
      In a HD/SD scenario you want whatever you shoot best in your hand, no questions asked. However, I always try to run double rifles/double handguns. This is also why I laugh when people carry $3,000 1911's for defense.

      A $500 polymer handgun is reasonable.
      Most definitely; I'm looking at the SD as a lower-cost alternative training/range/HD pistol that I can run bulk Blazer aluminum 9mm ammo through and throw in the Apex kit and be done (Glad there's the limited aftermarket Fix the main issue and use/abuse it. ). If worst comes to worst, I'd rather lose the beater though. My M&P was my first handgun/firearm I ever purchased, there's a sentimental value attached to it. Plus I have some plans for it still (That ATE pic in the Dope Shizz thread got my mind going; too bad their new Costa M&P just blew them up and wait times skyrocketed ). Honestly, the grip angle and flatter grip shape seem to be more of what I like anyways; only bad part is, I can't find any at local dealers and Gun Genie shows "allocated" on all of the SDs I see.

      Price-wise: figure $430 OTD after taxes and fees for the SD and $20 for the Apex kit. I've got around $850 in my M&P as far as pistol, Apex parts, sights, spares, etc are concerned.

      However, I do want to try one of the new FNSs though. Here in CA, we only have the original FNPs on-roster and readily available, even the FNXs aren't on-roster.
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      09-27-2012 12:37 PM #4837
      Girlfriend picked this up while she was port stopped in Antalya back in July, finally got to bring it home today

      Pretty velvet...


      Now for the unveiling.




      Such intricate carvings, supposedly all handcrafted.










      It's a Huglu 103c, but better still, it's a bird gun from Turkey
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      I don't know about you but, I get angry and shout "IB4TL" when one comes on.

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      09-27-2012 12:39 PM #4838
      Beautiful gun!

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      09-27-2012 03:01 PM #4839
      Thanks! If I had a bit more cashflow I would have told her to pick up a couple more, sort of a "his and hers" pair and a side-by-side. I might talk to the importer to see about doing things online since the g/f will be on shore duty for the next 4 years. Nevertheless, it'd be a shame to leave this locked away and out of view, so my next order of business will be to figure out a display case
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      09-27-2012 06:17 PM #4840
      Tried to take some pics of the rifle and pistol. Came out ok for a cell phone.

      I like the new rifle config. I had a cheap reddot on there for a while and recently traded for these magpul sights.....which arent great either but there will be a 0-4x24 sight on there this winter. In the meantime I will acclimate myself with my new backup sights.

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      09-27-2012 06:35 PM #4841
      Just got this:


      Yeah, yeah.......380 ACP.
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      09-27-2012 06:53 PM #4842
      Looks nice

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      09-27-2012 11:34 PM #4843
      abawp: Gorgeous O/U!!

      Went to the range to help a buddy search for a his first handgun; we rented Glock17, XD9, SR40, Sig226. After all was said and done, he liked the soft and smooth shooting of the SR40, but likes the size of the compact model. I found out I like the SR40 in fullsize... Think that may be next pistol; not 9mm so it doesn't help caliber commonality, but it shoots softer than the M&P9C... Also, have a chance at a decent deal on a Yugo M48- roughly $250 OTD after tax and DROS, looks to be unfired and still bathed in cosmoline. So... .40S&W or 8mm Mauser?
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      09-28-2012 05:34 AM #4844
      8mm.. easy Its too bad the SR40/c didn't exist when I got my SR9c, it would have been a strong contender, they are really good shooters and a good value.

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      09-28-2012 12:43 PM #4845
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabrio60 View Post
      8mm.. easy Its too bad the SR40/c didn't exist when I got my SR9c, it would have been a strong contender, they are really good shooters and a good value.
      I was shocked that .40 shot so softly that I asked the range for a different box of ammo (you have to use their ammo and they used reloads) so I bought a box of Speer Gold Dots that they let me shoot and even those were soft and controllable in double-taps. Looked online at the Ruger site and the .40 slide is 1/16" wider than the 9mm slide.

      As for the Yugo, it'd be ~$260 OTD... Looks unfired and unissued. Very tempting. Hardest part is getting all the cosmoline out... Are the commercial 8mm loads (PPU, Federal, WWB) ok to shoot in it or will I have to track down milsurp?
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      09-28-2012 01:35 PM #4846
      It should shoot everything fine. If you buy milsurp though it'd be a good idea to remove to corrosive salts from the bore after each shoot. I've seen forum threads on Yugo 8mm "sniper" ammo being far and away the best quality stuff you can get and the Yugo Mausers supposedly shoot very tight groups with it. Becoming harder to find, though.

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      09-28-2012 05:39 PM #4847
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabrio60 View Post
      It should shoot everything fine. If you buy milsurp though it'd be a good idea to remove to corrosive salts from the bore after each shoot. I've seen forum threads on Yugo 8mm "sniper" ammo being far and away the best quality stuff you can get and the Yugo Mausers supposedly shoot very tight groups with it. Becoming harder to find, though.
      That's what I've read. I'll see if I can track some down while work is slow. It'd be roughly $260 OTD, think I might go pick it up come payday.
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      09-28-2012 08:09 PM #4848
      I've been seeing them on Samco, very good condition for $209 + shipping. Having a C&R is nice, would be under $250 OTD. Would be a cool addition to my two Mosins.

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      09-28-2012 10:22 PM #4849
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabrio60 View Post
      I've been seeing them on Samco, very good condition for $209 + shipping. Having a C&R is nice, would be under $250 OTD. Would be a cool addition to my two Mosins.
      No C&R.
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      10-03-2012 01:14 PM #4850
      Just found this thread but i got this a couple months ago. Colt 1911 100th anniversary Employee Only Edition..only 150 made



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      10-03-2012 05:47 PM #4851
      Quote Originally Posted by MikeTooch View Post
      Just found this thread but i got this a couple months ago. Colt 1911 100th anniversary Employee Only Edition..only 150 made

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      I'll give you 50 bucks for it.
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    22. 10-03-2012 06:46 PM #4852
      My buddy has a whole gun cabinet full of unfired special edition Gold Cups etc. Makes me cringe at the thought of spending so much money and not shooting the damned things.


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      10-04-2012 07:30 PM #4854
      My Larue OBR has officially arrived. I just need a LT111 mount. The scope is a US Optics SN-3.



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      10-05-2012 02:12 AM #4855
      Quote Originally Posted by Vee-Dubber-GLI View Post
      No C&R.
      It's like $30. Pays itself off the first time you don't have to pay a dealer transfer fee.
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      10-05-2012 09:53 AM #4856
      Quote Originally Posted by 00boraslow View Post
      My Larue OBR has officially arrived. I just need a LT111 mount. The scope is a US Optics SN-3.



      Very nice.

    27. 10-05-2012 04:08 PM #4857
      Yep, if I had to buy a dedicated precision 7.62 AR, the OBR is the one to get, no questions asked.

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      10-05-2012 04:56 PM #4858
      Quote Originally Posted by Elbows View Post
      Yep, if I had to buy a dedicated precision 7.62 AR, the OBR is the one to get, no questions asked.
      It took a while to decide what I wanted. I was debating between a Gap 10 and the OBR. I finally decided on the OBR.

      I don't think you can wrong with either.

      I still need to order a few more parts, but have a LT111 mount and 4 Pmags on order. They should arrive by the end of next week then I can at least shoot it.

      Still need to decide which bi-pod I want, then a sling and sling mounts, and I want to get some offset sights for it. Debating between the KAC 600m offset sights or the Deuck Defense one.
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      10-05-2012 09:55 PM #4859
      Quote Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP View Post
      It's like $30. Pays itself off the first time you don't have to pay a dealer transfer fee.
      I know, I've got the application, but may be moving for a new job, so I'm in a holding pattern to see how things settle.

      Quote Originally Posted by 00boraslow View Post
      My Larue OBR has officially arrived. I just need a LT111 mount. The scope is a US Optics SN-3.



      /drool....
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      10-07-2012 04:46 AM #4860
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      10-07-2012 03:52 PM #4861
      Quote Originally Posted by 00boraslow View Post
      My Larue OBR has officially arrived. I just need a LT111 mount. The scope is a US Optics SN-3.
      What's the going rate on the OBR if you don't mind me asking??

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      10-07-2012 03:53 PM #4862
      Quote Originally Posted by NoDubJustYet View Post
      What's the going rate on the OBR if you don't mind me asking??

      Nevermind... http://www.laruetactical.com/obr-762

    33. 10-07-2012 04:56 PM #4863
      Yep, they're getting up into Knights Armament price range (ie. the pricing stratosphere). My buddy just placed an order for his OBR sometime last week.

      The skinny is that it's a fantastic rifle, so I guess it should be worthwhile - particularly if you hold onto it for 20 years.

      Makes certain other rifles look like a bargain.

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      10-07-2012 05:36 PM #4864
      Quote Originally Posted by Elbows View Post
      Yep, they're getting up into Knights Armament price range (ie. the pricing stratosphere). My buddy just placed an order for his OBR sometime last week.

      The skinny is that it's a fantastic rifle, so I guess it should be worthwhile - particularly if you hold onto it for 20 years.

      Makes certain other rifles look like a bargain.
      Outside of a Barret 50 or MacMillan Tac-50, I think ANY (currently offered, mass-produced) rifle will look like bargain.
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    35. 10-07-2012 05:48 PM #4865
      Yep, I agree...but I mean I'm seeing the price of many "excellent" AR rifles in the $2400 range now, and I think "damn that's expensive"...then I see the $3K+ guns and think "okay, not so bad...".



      I think the best price point for a competent rifle (something the OBR is heads and tails above) is about $1500. I think for around $1500 you should be able to buy or build a very competent, reliable, mil-spec or better fighting gun. Anything beyond that should be bells and whistles or customized stuff.

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