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      06-29-2011 08:20 PM #3476
      Quote Originally Posted by galil762 View Post
      Shot my bolt gun today, Remington 700 in .308, Heavy Barrel shortened to 20 inches and threaded, Custom trigger job, Leupold MK4 base and rings, Leupold Vari-x 3 Tactical with Premier Reticle Gen 2 Mil Dot. (USMC Reticle) Harris bipod and AWC Thundertrap Suppressor. Fun and quiet






      Modified by galil762 at 5:02 PM 10-30-2009

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      06-29-2011 09:55 PM #3477
      Here are a couple of pictures of the project next to a full size AK. Even though people tend to say you don't gain much in a Draco to make it worth the $200 stamp, I disagree. I think it is considerably shorter, but you be the judge:

      Underfolder is not attached, for photographic purposes only...



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    3. 06-29-2011 10:10 PM #3478
      I didn't bother with a draco simply because I have a folder on my AK, and my barrel is chopped with a pinned hider, so I only gain perhaps 2" of shortening if I was to use a Draco.

      However, if you have a normal barrel, or no folding stock --- then it makes a hell of a difference. It's also a shockingly hard hitting SBR for under $700 or so all said and done...which is untouchable in the firearms world. You can't get a fancy AR 6.8 SBR anywhere near that kind of price. The 7.62x39 is also simply marvelous out of a short barrel, so it makes a perfect fit.

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      06-29-2011 11:15 PM #3479
      Quote Originally Posted by farfromugen View Post
      Here are a couple of pictures of the project next to a full size AK. Even though people tend to say you don't gain much in a Draco to make it worth the $200 stamp, I disagree. I think it is considerably shorter, but you be the judge:
      I disagree about not gaining much with a Draco. For people like me who are very picky about their AKs being made completely overseas the Draco is a logical choice. The barrel, receiver, and everything is made in Romania as a rifle but it converted into a pistol configuration for the USA. By making it an SBR you are returning it to its original configuration. I am extremely tempted to get one but want to fire one first. I already have two AKs and another SBR would be a nice addition.

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      06-30-2011 12:08 AM #3480
      Quote Originally Posted by Obin Robinson View Post
      I disagree about not gaining much with a Draco. For people like me who are very picky about their AKs being made completely overseas the Draco is a logical choice. The barrel, receiver, and everything is made in Romania as a rifle but it converted into a pistol configuration for the USA. By making it an SBR you are returning it to its original configuration. I am extremely tempted to get one but want to fire one first. I already have two AKs and another SBR would be a nice addition.

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    6. 07-01-2011 10:03 PM #3481
      If you're on WT or LF you've already seen this - move along...just finished my 2nd paintjob on my primary rifle...and it's drying as I took these.




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      07-02-2011 09:24 PM #3482
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      Thanks Man, that one is mine!

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      07-04-2011 12:10 AM #3483
      Quote Originally Posted by galil762 View Post
      Thanks Man, that one is mine!
      it's a sexy gun, I want the same one, but probably without the suppressor (since I don't have the means or the "clearance" for one)

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      07-04-2011 10:15 AM #3484
      Quote Originally Posted by Visheau View Post
      it's a sexy gun, I want the same one, but probably without the suppressor (since I don't have the means or the "clearance" for one)
      There is no such thing as "Clearance" needed for them. As long as your allowed to buy firearms, you are allowed to buy suppressors.

      The only limiting factor is if you have the cheese to buy one. A decent 308 suppressor with the tax stamp will run you around $800-1000.

      I am currently in the market for a 30cal can. I just haven't figured out which one I want yet.

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      07-04-2011 01:09 PM #3485
      Quote Originally Posted by 00boraslow View Post
      There is no such thing as "Clearance" needed for them. As long as your allowed to buy firearms, you are allowed to buy suppressors.
      Or your state doesn't allow you to buy one. I dont know about TX but here in CA I cant own one.
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      07-04-2011 11:34 PM #3486
      California, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Michigan, New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Vermont, Connecticut, New Jersey, and Delaware are all unfriendly states for suppressors I believe...
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      07-05-2011 08:09 AM #3487
      You guys are correct. They are free to anybody who lives in a state that allows suppressors.


    13. 07-05-2011 10:41 AM #3488
      Quote Originally Posted by 00boraslow View Post
      You guys are correct. They are free to anybody who lives in a state that allows suppressors.

      I've never understood Indiana and the shorty shot gun. I'd pony up my $5 AOW right this instant for one. Other than that we are a really gun friendly state.

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      07-05-2011 10:47 AM #3489
      I don't think MN allows SBRs...
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      07-05-2011 11:11 AM #3490
      Quote Originally Posted by NoDubJustYet View Post
      I don't think MN allows SBRs...
      That map is a couple of years old. A few states have recently changed their laws to allow the use of some NFA items.

      Washington use to allow ownership of suppressors, but not the use of them.

      Stupid I know.

      They just recently passed a new law that now allows the use of suppressors in the state.

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      07-05-2011 11:26 AM #3491
      Quote Originally Posted by 00boraslow View Post
      That map is a couple of years old. A few states have recently changed their laws to allow the use of some NFA items.

      Washington use to allow ownership of suppressors, but not the use of them.

      Stupid I know.

      They just recently passed a new law that now allows the use of suppressors in the state.
      That's correct, I believe the bill went into effect last month. Also, we're allowed shotguns like this one since it's classified as an AOW:



      ...but these are illegal:



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      07-05-2011 01:50 PM #3492
      I do not believe that CA allows SBRs as stated there.

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      07-05-2011 04:30 PM #3493
      Quote Originally Posted by .:RDriver View Post
      I do not believe that CA allows SBRs as stated there.
      correct CA doesnt allow any of that.
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      07-05-2011 05:18 PM #3494
      Quote Originally Posted by Motorwerks View Post
      correct CA doesnt allow any of that.
      I believe back in the day you could and some are grandfathered in, just like some of the Barrett 50bmg rifles.

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      07-05-2011 05:24 PM #3495
      Quote Originally Posted by 00boraslow View Post
      I believe back in the day you could and some are grandfathered in, just like some of the Barrett 50bmg rifles.
      well yeah but that should be with all states. However, you cant go buy any of them unless you are LEO. I'm not sure if this link will work but it lays out all of the time limits and what we can and cant own.

      http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf
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      07-05-2011 07:13 PM #3496
      ^^ that chart gives me a headache...so glad I don't live in California and have to deal with all these ridiculous confusing laws
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      07-06-2011 01:37 AM #3497
      But the weather is nice.

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      07-06-2011 12:56 PM #3498
      your telling me about that chart giving you a headache..... I know that chart forward and backwards and Its still confusing sometimes. Theres a bunch of CA gun stores that have no idea what the hell is going on.
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      07-06-2011 01:36 PM #3499
      I can imagine!

      I agree, the weather is awesome. I lived out there for a while when I was 19...wasn't into guns back then, though I did have a rifle that was probably not CA legal at the time. I lived on the corner of Mission BLVD and San Juan...right on the beach...good times.
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    25. 07-09-2011 12:44 AM #3500
      Quote Originally Posted by .:RDriver View Post
      I do not believe that CA allows SBRs as stated there.
      CA allows AOW's, and Curios & relic SBS/SBR.

      you'll need to have someone set up an NFA trust for you unless your CLEO will sign your form 1/4 (good luck with that)

      AOW's ($5 stamp)



      i'd dig a super shorty, but not gonna drop $600+ on an NFA trust just so i can buy one.
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