#1
Didn't see this posted yet....http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t...4.ece
CEO murdered by mob of sacked Indian workers
Supporters block a national highway in support of the Tata car project( Parth Sanyal/Reuters)
Corporate India is in shock after a mob of sacked workers bludgeoned to death the chief executive who had dismissed them from a factory in a suburb of Delhi.
Lalit Kishore Choudhary, 47, the head of the Indian operations of Graziano Transmissioni, an Italian-headquartered manufacturer of car parts, died of severe head wounds on Monday afternoon after being attacked by scores of laid-off employees, police said.
The incident, in Greater Noida, just outside the Indian capital, followed a long-running dispute between the factory's management and workers who had demanded better pay and permanent contracts.
It is understood that Mr Choudhary, who was married with one son, had called a meeting with more than 100 former employees - who had been dismissed following an earlier outbreak of violence at the plant - to discuss a possible reinstatement deal.
A police spokesman said: "Only a few people were called inside. About 150 people were waiting outside when they heard someone from inside shout for help. They rushed in and the two sides clashed. The company staff were heavily outnumbered."
Other executives said they were lucky to escape with their lives. "I just locked my room's door from inside and prayed they would not break in. See, my hands are trembling even three hours later," an Italian consultant, Forettii Gatii, told a local newspaper.
More than 60 people were arrested and more than 20 were in hospital yesterday.
A spokesman for the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry said: "Such a heinous act is bound to sully India's image among overseas investors."
The murder has stoked fears that outbreaks of mob rule risk jeopardising the subcontinent's economic rise.
In the most high-profile incident so far, thousands of violent protestors recently forced Tata, the Indian conglomerate that owns Land Rover and Jaguar, to halt work on the plant being built to produce the world's cheapest car - the £1,250 Nano. The move could result in nearly £200 million in investment written off.
Tata halted work three weeks ago, claiming it could not guarantee its workers safety at the factory in the state of West Bengal. In a rare show of support for a competitor, the billionaire industrialist Mukesh Ambani, one of India's most powerful businessmen, said that the Nano crisis showed how protestors were creating a "a fear-psychosis to slow-down certain projects of national importance."
Other companies, including Vedenta, the London-listed mining company, have encountered similar problems in India.
In a statement issued from Rivoli in Italy, Graziano said that some of Mr Choudhary's attackers had no connection to the company. It added that the chief executive was killed by "serious head injuries caused by the intruders."
"We absolutely condemn the attack," Marcello Lamberto, the head of Oerlikon Segment Drive Systems, which owns Graziano, said.
"This is by no means a regular labour conflict but is truly criminal action. The whole of Oerlikon Group is close to the family of Mr Chaudhary in this terrible moment."
Modified by Arsigi at 7:41 AM 9-23-2008
Modified by Arsigi at 8:12 AM 9-23-2008
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#2
It's the stupid politicians fault for riling up the public with false hopes and instigating this, along with the idiotic public of course. India takes another five steps back.
Clarification: the person who passed away is not the CEO of TATA. In fact it has nothing to do with TATA.
Modified by mAdD INDIAN at 7:41 AM 9-23-2008
Modified by mAdD INDIAN at 7:42 AM 9-23-2008
#3
You know, as much as I hate to see ANYONE die.....America REALLY needs this.
#4
Quote, originally posted by VdubChaos » You know, as much as I hate to see ANYONE die.....America REALLY needs this.
wow.
#5
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#6
Corporate America is in dire need of this kind of justice. I'm sure the former emplyees of Bear Stearns, Lehman Bros., et al. would agree.
#7
This ain't justice. This has absolutely zero to do with justice. This is freakin' mindless scorched-earth mob rule. You know, the sort of thing we've theoretically evolved past as a society...
#8
Yeah great idea, let's go crush some skulls.
#9
Your title is completely false!
#10
Quote, originally posted by VdubChaos » You know, as much as I hate to see ANYONE die.....America REALLY needs this. I agree.
2nd amendment is for correcting wrongs, not hunting.
#11
Quote, originally posted by TWHansen » This ain't justice. This has absolutely zero to do with justice. This is freakin' mindless scorched-earth mob rule. You know, the sort of thing we've theoretically evolved past as a society... Yea, here is justice you ask for.
Section 8 of the great "Bail out"
"Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency."
Justice my ARSE!
#12
Let's think through this logically:These workers are demanding better pay and permanent contracts from their employer.
Their employer cannot commit to ongoing manufacturing operations (which would create said pay & contracts) because the safety of their workers cannot be guaranteed.
Said workers show their outrage for their lack of pay & contracts by murdering the head of their employer.
Employer's fears regarding the safety of their workers are exacerbated by the workers themseves....
Do the workers not realize that by their own actions, they are jeopardizing their chances of receiving ANY pay & contracts?
I mean, I loved the 80's too, but you don't see me doing lines off the hood of a Delorean.....
#13
I'm not surprised. Similar events happened in America during our industrial revolution.
#14
Quote, originally posted by BrianGriffin » Let's think through this logically: These workers are demanding better pay and permanent contracts from their employer.
That's correct, the employer being the Graziano Transmissioni.
Quote »
Their employer cannot commit to ongoing manufacturing operations (which would create said pay & contracts) because the safety of their workers cannot be guaranteed.
Different employer and scenario. In this case you are talking about TATA suspending operation of the Nano plant.
Quote »
Said workers show their outrage for their lack of pay & contracts by murdering the head of their employer.
These are workers for the Italian company NOT Tata.
That article is very misleading. It discusses two different indepedent events.The first event is the workers attacking the head of the Indian operations of the an Italian transmission supplier.
The second event is about the stoppage of the TATA Nano plant. That is unrelated to the above. (Nano uses a transmission from a Canadian supplier).
Modified by mAdD INDIAN at 7:55 AM 9-23-2008
Modified by mAdD INDIAN at 7:55 AM 9-23-2008
#15
Quote, originally posted by MidnightSpecial » I agree.
2nd amendment is for correcting wrongs, not hunting.
That kind of attitude is going to screw up the 2nd Amendment for those of us who have respect for the rule of law. And I speak as someone who owns a small arsenal.
#16
Quote, originally posted by rudyr » That kind of attitude is going to screw up the 2nd Amendment for those of us who have respect for the rule of law. And I speak as someone who owns a small arsenal.
Then you really don't understand what it is you're supporting, I'm afraid.
#17
Quote, originally posted by VdubChaos » You know, as much as I hate to see ANYONE die.....America REALLY needs this. WHAT?
#18
Quote, originally posted by Jordan 191 » Your title is completely false! Er... care to explain?
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#19
Quote, originally posted by Arsigi » Er... care to explain?
The TATA CEO was not bludgeoned to death. In fact, the person who was attacked had nothing to do with TATA. He was the head of operations for the Indian-subsidiary of an Italian transmission supplier. The workers worked in a factory for the transmission supplier NOT Tata.
#20
This story is about as surprising as Christmas.
Modified by SVTJayC at 8:08 AM 9-23-2008
#21
Quote, originally posted by geofftii2002 » WHAT?
See my 2nd post above....and also article below.
http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2...ckets
Ok fine, death might be over the top. But SOMETHING has to happen. THese people get away with WAY too much **** and get WAY too much.
With 0 accountability.
Modified by VdubChaos at 8:08 AM 9-23-2008
#22
Oh, I see the distinction now. He was a chief executive who ran a company making parts for Tata, not the chief executive of Tata.Bill, since I know you are watching this, perhaps you could amend my title to something more fitting... 'Tata plant executive...' perhaps?
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#23
Quote, originally posted by Arsigi » Er... care to explain?
Read the article. It was NOT Tata's CEO who was murdered.
#24
Quote, originally posted by VdubChaos » You know, as much as I hate to see ANYONE die.....America REALLY needs this. GTFO.
#25
Quote, originally posted by Sinnic » Then you really don't understand what it is you're supporting, I'm afraid.
The 2nd Amendment? Yeah, I think I have an idea what I'm supporting. If my law degree didn't sort it out for me, the Supreme Court just did this year:
The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.
#26
Quote, originally posted by Arsigi » Oh, I see the distinction now. He was a chief executive who ran a company making parts for Tata, not the chief executive of Tata. Bill, since I know you are watching this, perhaps you could amend my title to something more fitting... 'Tata plant executive...' perhaps?
nitpick: The article doesn't state that the company was a supplier to TATA. It very well may be, but its not stated.
I just hate how any automotive incident in India gets somehow related to the Nano.
#27
Thanks, Oliver.My bad, trying to beat Wimbletonbot to the thread!
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#28
Lewis Carrolls's "Through the Looking Glass" fantasy is becoming more like a living reality for me lately. To go into a place like this and read statements from people condoning vicious murder of any kind is surreal. Has spending our lives watching teevee and playing games numbed us to everything?
#29
Quote, originally posted by Arsigi » Thanks, Oliver. Wimbledon's iPhone must not get good reception in English 101.
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#30
Quote, originally posted by mAdD INDIAN »
That's correct, the employer being the Graziano Transmissioni.Different employer and scenario. In this case you are talking about TATA suspending operation of the Nano plant.
These are workers for the Italian company NOT Tata.
That article is very misleading. It discusses two different indepedent events.
The first event is the workers attacking the head of the Indian operations of the an Italian transmission supplier.
The second event is about the stoppage of the TATA Nano plant. That is unrelated to the above. (Nano uses a transmission from a Canadian supplier).
Modified by mAdD INDIAN at 7:55 AM 9-23-2008
Modified by mAdD INDIAN at 7:55 AM 9-23-2008
Ah. Apparently, reading comprehension > me this morning.
Time for more coffee.
I mean, I loved the 80's too, but you don't see me doing lines off the hood of a Delorean.....
#31
Quote, originally posted by BrianGriffin » Ah. Apparently, reading comprehension > me this morning.
Time for more coffee.
Journalists shouldn't write articles in this way.
#32
I hate that United Way scam as much as the next guy, but damn....the guy just needs to go to prison, not casket
Quote, originally posted by VdubChaos » You know, as much as I hate to see ANYONE die.....America REALLY needs this.
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#33
[QUOTE=mAdD INDIAN]
The second event is about the stoppage of the TATA Nano plant. That is unrelated to the above. (Nano uses a transmission from a Canadian supplier).I could be wrong, but what I took from the article was that the incidents of violence, the fear for personal safety, and the escalating mob-mentality are now the common ground in the overall situation there at this time, even if it wasn't plainly stated.
#34
Quote, originally posted by vwlarry » Lewis Carrolls's "Through the Looking Glass" fantasy is becoming more like a living reality for me lately. To go into a place like this and read statements from people condoning vicious murder of any kind is surreal. Has spending our lives watching teevee and playing games numbed us to everything? Come on Larry, a little bit of the good old ultraviolence never hurt anyone! (To those getting ready to "correct" me, think about it. Reference Huck Finn & Clockwork Orange if you don't get it.)
#35
It doesn't help that I am currently reading Vince Flynn's 'Term Limits' book.
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