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    Thread: Project: Kris’s Scirocco – aka “GINO”

    1. Member JonnyPhenomenon's Avatar
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      10-02-2008 11:27 AM #36
      frst, welcome to the forum. you got a friggin Gem of a car there.

      RE: removing windowshields...
      start at the top from the inside of the car, and work on rolling the rubber gasket off og the frame of the car., there is metal "grippers" in there that have teeth on them to keep the window in place. they suck a lot. you have to pull the rubber up and over these teeth. you will need to go back and forth over the entire perimeter of the window till you have it all looosened up. I find that old credit cards and hotel keys work great for sticking in betwen the gasket and the frame.

      once you have it out, throw away the metal gripper thing on the top of the wind shield. you dont need it and it will just make you break the windshield when you try to put it back in.

      dont break your windshield. they are hard to find new ones for. just take a look at my build thread to see what not to do.

      p.s. I love the interior. thats what carmine read slegator interior is what inspired me to do myseats like this:

      what kind of condition are your seats in? hows that fabric held up over time?

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      10-02-2008 11:57 AM #37
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      10-03-2008 01:29 AM #38
      Wow !
      That's a nice interior!

      My seats seem to have held up pretty well. I cannot tell how much fading verses just being dirty is present, guess I'll figure that out when I get the wash done!. The main area of wear is the the typical side bolster on the drivers seat and it looks like Andy might be able to hook me up with some material for repair.

      Thanks for the information on the windshield removal, much appreciated.


      Modified by MrPill at 5:40 PM 10-9-2008

      It was time.

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      10-08-2008 06:10 PM #39

      So I spent some time with Gino this afternoon and moved into the inside of the car today to get down to the floors to evaluate what I saw from the bottom.

      Seats out:

      Driver's side bolster it the worst area of wear:

      Hey Marc, did you loose some change? It's Canadian!

      So what's this relay that's under the seat stuck in this foam? This one is NO Good!

      Most of the floor is pretty good:


      Except the driver's side. I will have to be do'in some welding here!

      Anybody have any good suggestions on getting the sound dead'ng stuff off the floor?

      Is there a source for partial floor panels or repair pieces?

      Dan

      It was time.

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      10-08-2008 06:32 PM #40
      Quote, originally posted by MrPill »

      Hey Marc, did you loose some change? It's Canadian!


      Marc's probably going to want that loonie back


      I'm thinking that maybe the relay is for the heated seats? IIRC, they were standard on Slegato's.

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      10-08-2008 06:41 PM #41
      Quote, originally posted by cholland_ »

      Marc's probably going to want that loonie back


      I'm thinking that maybe the relay is for the heated seats? IIRC, they were standard on Slegato's.

      It's a quarter Chris!

      You can keep the change, but I'd like to get my button back please.

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      10-08-2008 06:48 PM #42
      Hey there, I have scanned the B&W pics of Gino's cross border adventure, and I can soon burn and mail you a disc, if you IM me with your address. And I think that's my quarter

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      10-08-2008 10:13 PM #43
      Quote, originally posted by Mtl-Marc »

      It's a quarter Chris!

      Wow... I might actually be blind

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      10-11-2008 11:25 PM #44
      the relay under the seat is definitely for the seat heater.

      Im looking to buy a heated seat setup actually. so while you have the floor all apart rip out all the wiring for it and Ill buy it off you

      some people use dry ice to get the floor insulation to freeze then they bust it all up with a hammer.

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      10-12-2008 12:33 AM #45
      Looking good, man. Pretty cool you're doing this.
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      10-12-2008 12:38 AM #46
      Quote, originally posted by JonnyPhenomenon »
      the relay under the seat is definitely for the seat heater.

      Im looking to buy a heated seat setup actually. so while you have the floor all apart rip out all the wiring for it and Ill buy it off you

      Quote, originally posted by JonnyPhenomenon »
      ...some people use dry ice to get the floor insulation to freeze then they bust it all up with a hammer.

      I was able to use a pneumatic air tool with a scraper type blade that worked pretty good. Thanks!

      Anybody have a source for a floor panel for the driver's side?

      It was time.

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      10-14-2008 06:26 PM #47
      Continued to remove the rear interior, rear lights and bumper today. I want to find out all the issues to better prepare me in figuring out how to continue.

      Rear end has one spot of rust perforation at one of the license plate attachment points:

      The rest of the spots are just surface rust with some loss of integrity at two of the valance (lip thingy that sits on top of the bumper) attachment points.

      Inside is clear of rust. Looking into the side panels, I can still not see any rust under the body kit, around the wheel wells:

      Another shot from the rear:

      And ChaChing!

      Will work on removing the door cards next.

      Looks like I'll also be putting bumpers on my shopping list too. The rear one's rebar is not usable at all. The front one might be able to be rescued though.

      It was time.

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      10-21-2008 12:49 PM #48
      ...but not with Gino.

      Had a small plumbing project to attend too. Running water out to a pasture.



      But I did make up for it somewhat. I did some reading in the Bently and was able to remove the dash without issue this morning.


      It was time.

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      10-23-2008 03:29 PM #49


      I think I'll go wrench on the car a little.

      It was time.

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      10-23-2008 06:05 PM #50
      Keep us posted and hang in there! We'll try our best to cheer you up
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      10-24-2008 04:25 PM #51
      like those seats what was that rook cut from. looks like a rocco top
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      10-25-2008 06:04 AM #52
      Quote, originally posted by austin neuschafer »
      like those seats
      what was that rook cut from. looks like a rocco top

      Thanks and yes it is. PO provided it for some rust repair that is present in a strange place in the area of the sunroof. He also provided door, hood and rear hatch from what looks like all from the same black rocco.

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      10-25-2008 06:50 PM #53
      Finished removing the last two connections for the fuel pumps and was able to take the wiring looms out today. Unlike Jonny, I have never tried a five sided Cube so I left the fuse box intact!




      Modified by MrPill at 3:51 PM 10-25-2008

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      10-25-2008 10:06 PM #54
      That's not bad, I always thought there was a lot more wiring in a Scirocco then that
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      11-14-2008 07:55 PM #55
      Yes I have been spending time with Gino, it's just the stuff that does not move along so fast.

      I've been doing a couple of things at once. Pulled off the side molding per Sciroccojim's writeup in the FAQ's. Went pretty well.

      Next I tackled the rust through on the passenger side A-pillar. You may remember from above, here it is after I cleaned it up a bit.

      And with a piece of metal in place from the spare top.

      And now how it currently looks after the welding and a little finishing.

      Also started to remove the body kit.

      Anyone have any tricks to remove this silicone (?) adhesive?

      Also got most of the front suspension off. Just need to work on then A-arms and sway bar.

      Dan

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      11-14-2008 10:26 PM #56
      Damn nice strat there Dan. Gino will make you proud
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      11-14-2008 10:34 PM #57
      Quote, originally posted by Rocco_julie »
      Damn nice strat there Dan. Gino will make you proud
      Did you get the CD from Cathy?

      Yes I did, she's quite the shutterbug! It has alot of great pictures on it.

      It was time.

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      11-17-2008 07:24 PM #58
      Got the rest of the body kit off today.

      Only one spot of rust found under the whole body kit. Up in front of the passenger door.

      Also pulled off the rear brakes and dropped the rear axle beam.

      Still looking for a good way to remove the butyl rubber left behind from the body kit? The majority of it does "peel" off but some gets left behind in areas.

      Next big thing to tackle (along with a 100 little things) will be dropping the gas tank.

      -Dan


      Modified by MrPill at 4:26 PM 11-17-2008

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      11-17-2008 07:28 PM #59
      You can get an "eraser wheel" from auto body supply places, or online. It's basically a big rubber eraser disc that you put in an electric drill. They work pretty well for removing adhesive and whatnot.
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      12-08-2008 07:58 PM #60
      Here's how Gino currently looks:

      Yep Cathy, a little naked.

      So the driver's side floor pan turned out to be a little worse than first thought once I chipped/cut away all the rust.

      Here's what we got done today:

      Needed to "patch" up the tunnel. I've got a floor panel to go in next. Stay tuned!

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      12-08-2008 07:59 PM #61
      Quote, originally posted by Chris16vRocco »
      You can get an "eraser wheel" from auto body supply places, or online. It's basically a big rubber eraser disc that you put in an electric drill. They work pretty well for removing adhesive and whatnot.

      Thanks Chris, This worked pretty good. Still took a lot of "elbow grease" to get it all off though.

      -Dan

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      12-08-2008 09:03 PM #62
      Oh wow, that is a bit more rust than I thought!

      I'm really enjoying watching your progress on the 'ol boy. Keep up the excellent work.


    28. 12-08-2008 09:41 PM #63
      nice project keep up the good work! I would be proud of my father if he did this for me, so I'am sure that kris is proud of you!
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      12-29-2008 01:30 PM #64
      Found a set of Euro bumpers locally and since Gino's N/A style were shot I figured I'd go check them out.

      Turn's out they were very nice, soooo it might be Gino, the Canadian Slegato with a European flair!

      Here's a front and back view:

      Still had the stock tag on it from 8/97:

      Really clean:

      So they may end on Gino, maybe not, time will tell.

      Been busy with work and the holidays so not too much time spent with Gino. Hope to still gets some work done today after the kids head out to Chicago.

      Happy Holiday's everyone,
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      It was time.

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      12-29-2008 01:34 PM #65
      new euro bumpers for Gino, do it
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      If you do grab them and decide to stick with NA's I'd like a set for the purple car, which would free up a Florida set of the parkbenches. So give me a shout if you get them/decide against them....

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      12-29-2008 02:17 PM #67
      The pictures are from in my driveway and they are now "tucked" away in my basement.

      Just not sure if they will end up on Gino (probably) or ??

      -Dan

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      01-12-2009 04:43 PM #68
      Spent most of the morning trying to get a block heater put on my tractor but found I did not have a big enough breaker bar to remove the plug currently in the block.

      Was able to spend some time with Gino this afternoon and got the new floor pan tacked into place though.

      From this:

      To this:

      I'm not the best welder but it seems sturdy and should clean up nice. Will have to get underneath and finish up there next.

      It was time.

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      02-06-2009 05:53 PM #69
      .....it has been kinda hit and miss with getting out to the garage. Update for what has happened on the days it's been a little warmer.

      Tackled the area of rust on the top:

      After cutting it out:

      Patch piece that was used from the extra top:

      After the welding:

      I think this should smooth out pretty good. Will have to wait for some warmer weather though.

      Also started tearing into the original engine:

      I had Kris and Turin on my mind today. Kris would of also been 20 this month. I like to think that they are wrench'n together today.

      God Speed you guys.
      -Dan

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