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      10-03-2008 02:38 AM #1



      Please note these kits are on sale for the time being, pricing is as follows:
      CTS MKIV 24V Stage 2 (intercooled) - $4,899.00 - 320whp @ 8psi
      CTS MKIV 24V Stage 3 (intercooled with head spacer and fuel pump) - $5,299.00 - 400whp @ 18psi



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      10-03-2008 08:22 AM #2
      jesus...

    3. 10-03-2008 09:24 AM #3

    4. 10-03-2008 09:56 AM #4
      Sweet, so can the Unitronic software allow potential buyers to achieve somewhere close to 571whp on pump gas utilizing the Kinetic hardware?

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      10-03-2008 10:32 AM #5
      Quote, originally posted by pOrKcHoP bOy »
      Sweet, so can the Unitronic software allow potential buyers to achieve somewhere close to 571whp on pump gas utilizing the Kinetic hardware?

      The post indicates that Unitronic can tune a Motronic ECU to 571+WHP, and tune cars that trap in the 140MPH range, which is a fary cry from any other tuner.
      The kinetic Kit uses a T67 with a P trim, which is basically a 700HP turbo, so making 500HP shouldn't be a problem.

    6. 10-03-2008 11:03 AM #6
      Quote, originally posted by Clay @ CTS Turbo »
      The post indicates that Unitronic can tune a Motronic ECU to 571+WHP, and tune cars that trap in the 140MPH range, which is a fary cry from any other tuner.
      The kinetic Kit uses a T67 with a P trim, which is basically a 700HP turbo, so making 500HP shouldn't be a problem.


      any kit details? the kit was mentioned in other threads but not in detail. does it include injectors? what size? harness included? is the kit complete ? (obviously excluding software).
      the devil is in the details.

    7. 10-03-2008 10:42 AM #7
      In fact, that car did much more power. What you've seen it the video is AWHP numbers at 18psi. Car running over 25psi now. Closer to 1000hp.
      Unitronic does great software!
      I can see myself in the video

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      10-03-2008 10:47 AM #8
      Quote, originally posted by dhovid »
      In fact, that car did much more power. What you've seen it the video is AWHP numbers at 18psi. Car running over 25psi now. Closer to 1000hp.
      Unitronic does great software!
      I can see myself in the video


      Those guys from DM are crazy! Always have the fastest cars
      Another car built by DM Motorsport and tuned by Unitronic - MK2 R32 ran low 10 seconds @ 140mph



      Modified by Clay @ CTS Turbo at 11:30 AM 10-3-2008

    9. 10-03-2008 12:46 PM #9
      By the way, the car in video DOES NOT have a CTS turbo kit. It's a custom turbo kit and engine build by DM Motorsport. But, it does use a custom unitronic software with 1000cc

    10. 10-03-2008 12:54 PM #10
      Quote, originally posted by dhovid »
      By the way, the car in video DOES NOT have a CTS turbo kit. It's a custom turbo kit and engine build by DM Motorsport. But, it does use a custom unitronic software with 1000cc

      Yes, we are well aware of that. That is why I am patiently waiting for a more accurate performance assessment for the actual results.



      Modified by pOrKcHoP bOy at 10:48 AM 10-3-2008

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      10-03-2008 01:35 PM #11
      YES!!! Finally!!!
      Waiting for more Details. Projected HP/TQ numbers for each stg ?
      We will be in touch Clay. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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      10-03-2008 02:33 PM #12
      Quote, originally posted by Black Mamba »
      YES!!! Finally!!!
      Waiting for more Details. Projected HP/TQ numbers for each stg ?
      We will be in touch Clay. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      10-04-2008 05:24 PM #13
      How much are the fueling kits ?
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    14. 10-04-2008 05:44 PM #14
      No fueling from Kinetic... yet...
      Only C2 or Unitronic...
      Or standalone if you are super-hardcore
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      10-04-2008 06:00 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by MeiK »
      No fueling from Kinetic... yet...
      Only C2 or Unitronic...
      Or standalone if you are super-hardcore

      hey, if you run into pete or jamie, tell them to drop me an email: clay@ctsturbo.com

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      10-04-2008 09:22 PM #17
      Quote, originally posted by 24valvedGTI »
      A t-67 + tial 38 = a high chance of boost creap on a vr??????

      dude your ****in stupid

      i don't know why everyone always thinks that. I have seen many cars pushing high horse power running 38mm waste gates. The waste gate can keep up.
      People just need to learn to shut there mouths sometime. People have complained for a long time for companies to come out with a kit for a 24v. The CTS guys came up with something reasonable for a good price and then all you people do on here is bash and complain that you would build it another way. If you don't ****in like it build your own kit. The more people bash the more companies are not gonna wanna do **** for you.
      Im also sure if you called CTS and you wanted some extra stuff or some part to be different they would do whatever they could to accommodate your needs.



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      10-04-2008 07:28 PM #18
      Quote, originally posted by Clay @ CTS Turbo »

      would really like to have a stainless line with some real fittings there so when that axle breaks it doesnt knock the rubber hose off the barb...
      guess you could do that yourself during install, but **** i dont think it should be my responsibility lol

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      10-04-2008 07:52 PM #19
      Quote, originally posted by Fat Jon »
      would really like to have a stainless line with some real fittings there so when that axle breaks it doesnt knock the rubber hose off the barb...
      guess you could do that yourself during install, but **** i dont think it should be my responsibility lol

      Kinetic has sold 100s of turbo kits, and they all use these lines. Axles generally don't break at the inplut flange, they brake where the spline goes into your hub.
      If you think having stainless steel braided lines (rubber with braided covering) is going to stop the drain line from being knocked off if your axle breaks at the cup you're mistaken.

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      10-04-2008 08:06 PM #20
      so your saying those hp figures are just a rough guesstimate of what you can expect?
      did that car mentioned make that power at 9psi intercooled or non?
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      10-04-2008 08:30 PM #21
      Quote, originally posted by .SLEEPYDUB. »
      so your saying those hp figures are just a rough guesstimate of what you can expect?
      did that car mentioned make that power at 9psi intercooled or non?

      The black 24V car was intercooled, it made 327whp @ 9psi. Kinetic doesn't offer a non-intercooled kit for these cars, the compression ratios are too high to make it worth while.
      I'm not sure if you thought that number was in reference to a non-intercooled setup, but 327whp on a non-intercooled kit would be totally unbelievable.

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      10-05-2008 11:10 PM #22
      Quote, originally posted by Clay @ CTS Turbo »
      Kinetic has sold 100s of turbo kits, and they all use these lines. Axles generally don't break at the inplut flange, they brake where the spline goes into your hub.
      If you think having stainless steel braided lines (rubber with braided covering) is going to stop the drain line from being knocked off if your axle breaks at the cup you're mistaken.

      tell that to the 3 axles i broke at that flange using drag radials and nitrous...
      just a reccomendation... im sure most people wont be launching their FWD turbo cars... these kits seem to be more for the 60-roll club...
      im just saying that if i wanted to complicate my broken axle problem with a locked up motor due to no oil, i would proably keep that that way. lol

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      10-06-2008 12:57 AM #23
      Quote, originally posted by Fat Jon »
      tell that to the 3 axles i broke at that flange using drag radials and nitrous...
      just a reccomendation... im sure most people wont be launching their FWD turbo cars... these kits seem to be more for the 60-roll club...
      im just saying that if i wanted to complicate my broken axle problem with a locked up motor due to no oil, i would proably keep that that way. lol

      I have never heard or seen an axle break and knock off an oil drain line in all my years, i'll mention that to the guys at Kinetic though.
      I don't know how far you can drive with no broken axle, people generally shut the car down anyway because it doesnt drive with broken axles. It would take a while for all the oil to drain out too, because where the oil drains into the pan is above the oil level otherwise it wouldn't gravity drain.
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      10-08-2008 01:40 AM #24
      Quote, originally posted by Clay @ CTS Turbo »
      I have never heard or seen an axle break and knock off an oil drain line in all my years, i'll mention that to the guys at Kinetic though.

      in all your years of turbocharging 24v's ? Or just any car that wraps the oil drain from the turbo around a peice of the driveline that breaks ??
      Just checking.
      Quote, originally posted by Clay @ CTS Turbo »
      I don't know how far you can drive with no broken axle, people generally shut the car down anyway because it doesnt drive with broken axles.

      I live in florida... i'd sit with the car on in the A/C waiting for the tow truck... Just saying.
      Quote, originally posted by Clay @ CTS Turbo »
      It would take a while for all the oil to drain out too, because where the oil drains into the pan is above the oil level otherwise it wouldn't gravity drain.

      So the turbocharger that the engine is pumping pressurized oil into is mounted below the oil pan ????!?!?! I'm not really sure what you are trying to say here ??? LOL
      What size is the restrictor on that feed line ?
      Tell me that, and I can tell you roughly how long it will take to drain the ~6 quarts of oil in that engine with it idling at ~40psi oil pressure.
      Quote, originally posted by Clay @ CTS Turbo »
      your idea has been noted though Fat Jon [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      I mean seriously... if someone isn't going to buy your, *ahem* sorry Kenetic's, kit because of a silly thing like that, they weren't going to buy it in the first place... just giving my 2 cents since i dont like having to rebuild engines because of stupid oversights made either because someone "didnt think it would matter" or to save a couple bucks on a piece of stainless line and some fittings ... whatever the case may be... and since you are fashioning this kit with Unitronic software for people to buy, I was just suggesting that perhaps you would also like to fashion an upgraded part that could lead to catastrophic engine failure.

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      10-09-2008 07:32 PM #25
      Rubber, braided, either way, the setup pictured for the return just looks, rushed or unfinished. .02
      I will say Ive snapped an inner joint on the drivers side without slicks or even a prepped track

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