This thread is giving me a headache
half the people ripping on this product have their own turbo setups already... and seem to have no interest in this product outside of discrediting it.
Second I think that this Hardware only kit is a great idea, it allows a greater flexibitlity for customers who might not want a generic tune. Go standalone, or have a chip shop custom tune for you. What could be better than that. Half the tuenrs on here complain that c2 offers a blanket tune and they don't like that. Well this is a great opportunity to get a bigger turbo from a reputable company and have it custom tuned.
Be thankful that someone sees fit to produce a decent kit that has all the hard work done. The BIG things for turbo projects are always the manifolds and turbo location, after that everything is fairly generic, Turbos are almost always outsourced IE Garret, so are injectors, harnesses, WG, BOV , oil lines and etc. Its not like Kinetic made everything from scratch. They developed and made the manifolds, flanges down pipes and the parts for our particular application. the rest they sourced for what would be appropriate for a good product within the space and price requirements. Its that simple. I do not see how this kit can be any less reliable than any other kit on the market. T3 flange aside... this kit should be able to blow to 320+ HP easy, without even working hard.
finally, I like this business strategy, If anything I think this makes the company more competitive within a NICHE MARKET.
Finally I hate to break it to everyone but there is no liability on any tuners behalf if they sell you a kit, and you bunk your motor.
retail is a tricky business although I did LOL at the explanation of mc D's selling coke but not making it. good response.