*** Is it time for you to get a R32 Turbo Kit ? ***

[xbluewaterx]

[QUOTE=r32dub88]

VR6 Turbo Manifold - http://www.ctsturbo.com/produc....html

i could not find Downpipe though.

That is a 12v manifold

[CTS Turbo]

Quote, originally posted by xbluewaterx »

[QUOTE=r32dub88] i could not find Downpipe though. That is a 12v manifold

The parts are not going to be sold seperately from the kit unfortunately.

[Patryk R32]

Quote, originally posted by Turbodub32 »

if changed to a gt30R or 35R..

Clay...any info on if you can run a 30R or 35R on this setup?

[CTS Turbo]

Quote, originally posted by Patryk R32 »

Clay...any info on if you can run a 30R or 35R on this setup?

I wouldn't run a 30R on this setup, maybe a GT3582R, you'd probably be looking at about +600USD for a GT35R setup and all the additional hardware.

[RedDevil]

Quote, originally posted by Clay @ CTS Turbo »

I wouldn't run a 30R on this setup, maybe a GT3582R, you'd probably be looking at about +600USD for a GT35R setup and all the additional hardware.

Why not 30R??? Care to explain..

[CTS Turbo]

Quote, originally posted by RedDevil »

Why not 30R??? Care to explain..

Because they are way too small for a 3.2L engine.

[Skela]

Quote, originally posted by Clay @ CTS Turbo »

Because they are way too small for a 3.2L engine.

There are quite a few people running GT30's that would disagree with you on that...

480bhp at 14psi and a 3K spool up is respectable in my book...

[jlawr32]

with stage 2 can i run a 2.5" exhaust to the 3inch downpipe , or do i need a 3"?

[Jamaican_tuner]

Quote, originally posted by jlawr32 »

with stage 2 can i run a 2.5" exhaust to the 3inch downpipe , or do i need a 3"?

You are better off with a 3.

2.5 will be ok though.

[jlawr32]

i want to keep my milltek high flow cats and non res catback , thanks

[CTS Turbo]

Quote, originally posted by Skela »

There are quite a few people running GT30's that would disagree with you on that... 480bhp at 14psi and a 3K spool up is respectable in my book...

Thats great, we can agree to disagree then. The GT30Rs will tend to choke out in the small turbine housing and wheels that are available at higher RPMs. I suggest whoever is making 480BHP to take their car to the track and see what trap speeds it will run.

- The largest GT3076R flows 60lbs/min
- The T67 in this kit flows 70lbs/min

Keeping boost levels the same, the turbo in this kit will make more power than the GT30R and have much more ability to breath up top. Also, the .:R32's motor is definatly large enough to keep this turbo breathing happily.

On a side note, I'm excited for the Eurotuner GP results to be published, because some of the high dollar kits that are available put down some numbers that are quite laughable.

[newcreation]

Clay sent you a p/m

[BIG DUB]

would running a C2 sri and no cats with the stage 3 software cause a cell code, also what about a dual dv set up?


Modified by BIG DUB at 7:03 AM 10-16-2008

[retired]

Any links(info) to what happened on the weekend at the eurotuner GTG?

[bmpR32vw]

just ordered a stage 3 kit!!! pics up soon as it gets in.

thanks again clay , awesome guy to deal with

[weaselwhy7]

Quote, originally posted by bmpR32vw »

just ordered a stage 3 kit!!! pics up soon as it gets in. thanks again clay , awesome guy to deal with

Can't wait to see these pics! keep us posted

[Skela]

Quote, originally posted by Clay @ CTS Turbo »

Thats great, we can agree to disagree then. The GT30Rs will tend to choke out in the small turbine housing and wheels that are available at higher RPMs. I suggest whoever is making 480BHP to take their car to the track and see what trap speeds it will run. - The largest GT3076R flows 60lbs/min - The T67 in this kit flows 70lbs/min Keeping boost levels the same, the turbo in this kit will make more power than the GT30R and have much more ability to breath up top. Also, the .:R32's motor is definatly large enough to keep this turbo breathing happily. On a side note, I'm excited for the Eurotuner GP results to be published, because some of the high dollar kits that are available put down some numbers that are quite laughable.

Does this not come down to tuning philosophy then? Agreed the T67 will flow more on the top end... but how do they compare at mid range? This is a serious question by the way, as I don't know.
Is one setup more for day to day driving, or peak horsepower?

Trap speed? 116 at 11.9...

Regarding eurotuner... how many of those kits used water meth assist to make the numbers safely? Did any of the engines suffer issues after the event? I'm very curious to see the numbers as well. I would just like to see full disclosure surrounding some of these events as well, not just peak horsepower numbers.

I'm not hating by the way. Your reputation precedes you here, and I always enjoy speaking to knowledgeable individuals. There are no black and whites in the after market tuning industry, only shades or gray, and I appreciate what Kinetic have been able to do for the 1.8T market. I'm looking forward to seeing some of these turbo equipped R32's on the road.

**edited trap speed due to piss poor memory**


Modified by Skela at 9:49 AM 10-16-2008

[CTS Turbo]

Quote, originally posted by Skela »

Does this not come down to tuning philosophy then? Agreed the T67 will flow more on the top end... but how do they compare at mid range? This is a serious question by the way, as I don't know. Is one setup more for day to day driving, or peak horsepower? Trap speed? 119 ~ 120 at 11.9... Regarding eurotuner... how many of those kits used water meth assist to make the numbers safely? Did any of the engines suffer issues after the event? I'm very curious to see the numbers as well. I would just like to see full disclosure surrounding some of these events as well, not just peak horsepower numbers. I'm not hating by the way. Your reputation precedes you here, and I always enjoy speaking to knowledgeable individuals. There are no black and whites in the after market tuning industry, only shades or gray, and I appreciate what Kinetic have been able to do for the 1.8T market. I'm looking forward to seeing some of these turbo equipped R32's on the road.

I guess you could say this kit is for someone that wants to have a fast car, that can beat the old guy that you commonly see driving down the road thinking he has a fast car. It was built by people that have years of experience tuning and building turbo setups for VWs. When this kit designer was developing state of the art VW in the late 1980s and 1990s other tuners were putting lambo style body kits on VW cabbys.

The T67 flows more up top thats right, it won't have a torque spike that falls on its face in the mid to upper RPM range. Kinetic makes kits to drive, daily not strictly for drag racing or top speed runs. I would not put a GT30R on a 3.2L motor, because the torque will come on fast and it will die up top, torque makes you go, but when you can't put the power down you're not going anywhere. I'd love to see a few videos of a GT30R R32 running high 11's with trap speeds in the low 120s.

Regarding Eurotuner, I don't know who used water meth, you'll have to wait for that. Eurotuner will publish figures when they are ready. If you want to know the conditions you can call/email Eurotuner, but they wont tell you anything until the magazine is published. They have the rights to publish all of this information, we don't. People will have to wait for the numbers from the .:R32 super tuners, i'm excited to see the reactions.

[CTS Turbo]

Quote, originally posted by Skela »

Trap speed? 116 at 11.9... **edited trap speed due to piss poor memory**

I'm sure I know what cars you're talking about, but consistently running 11.9 @ 116 is another story. Not to mention trap speeds are a measure of horsepower, and with a 116 Trap speed I would be worried about losing to a GT28RS equipped 1.8T from a roll.

[Skela]

Clay

I updated my previous post with the correct trap... it was 116, not 120. I apologize for that.

The R32 market is a niche market to begin with.... a turbo R is a niche within a niche...

Welcome to this particular sand box and thanks for supporting the R community!

BTW I'm an old guy and I think I have a fast car!
Bring it on!

[scharged]

Quote, originally posted by Skela »

Clay I updated my previous post with the correct trap... it was 116, not 120. I apologize for that. The R32 market is a niche market to begin with.... a turbo R is a niche within a niche... Welcome to this particular sand box and thanks for supporting the R community! BTW I'm an old guy and I think I have a fast car! Bring it on!

you do have a fast car

[CTS Turbo]

Quote, originally posted by Skela »

Clay I updated my previous post with the correct trap... it was 116, not 120. I apologize for that. The R32 market is a niche market to begin with.... a turbo R is a niche within a niche... Welcome to this particular sand box and thanks for supporting the R community! BTW I'm an old guy and I think I have a fast car! Bring it on!

I'm sure you do have a fast car, and there's nothing wrong with being old. I wasn't referring to you, but everyone has come accross the guy that has a fast car and thinks nothing can touch it, and we're here to help the guys that want to prove him wrong

[Skela]

Quote, originally posted by Clay @ CTS Turbo »

I'm sure you do have a fast car, and there's nothing wrong with being old. I wasn't referring to you, but everyone has come accross the guy that has a fast car and thinks nothing can touch it, and we're here to help the guys that want to prove him wrong

Trust me... I love the look on some of the faces as well.
Props to you for providing the means as well...

:hugs:

[scharged]

Skela, that 11's car is now running a 35 isn't he

[Skela]

Quote, originally posted by scharged »

Skela, that 11's car is now running a 35 isn't he

Yes he is.... on low boost.

More to come on that eventually.

But let's not thread jack any more then we have already...

[CTS Turbo]

Quote, originally posted by scharged »

Skela, that 11's car is now running a 35 isn't he

I'm a fan of the GT3582R, good choice for the R32

I guess it all comes down to preference, thanks guys

[Patryk R32]

Another question...not sure if it has been answered.

But when running the compression plate...how thick is the plate, and what compression ratio does it make the car?

[CTS Turbo]

Quote, originally posted by Patryk R32 »

Another question...not sure if it has been answered. But when running the compression plate...how thick is the plate, and what compression ratio does it make the car?

All the info is right here:

http://www.ctsturbo.com/produc....html

[blueduece]

any plans on offering je pistons and some type of hd con rod for the R i see you sell other je products? i know shimmel sells a drop in je piston set for the R

[CTS Turbo]

Quote, originally posted by blueduece »

any plans on offering je pistons and some type of hd con rod for the R i see you sell other je products? i know shimmel sells a drop in je piston set for the R

Bill does, I just talked to him today actually, but not about rods.

I'm actually waiting for Integrated Engineering to come out with drop in rods for the R32 motors and 24V VR6 motors. They work quite well on the 1.8Ts and 2.7Ts, and they are cost effective. They might be a good idea for the Unitronic 830cc program with some serious boost. Great call

[CTS Turbo]

All IM's replied

[TurboREX]

that mani is sweet, why are the #1 and #6 exhaust tubes bigger than the rest? or mayb its just the picture

[CTS Turbo]

Quote, originally posted by TurboREX »

that mani is sweet, why are the #1 and #6 exhaust tubes bigger than the rest? or mayb its just the picture

no idea, could be the shadowing in the pic.

[VR6OOM]

Clay, I'm a former kinetic customer and you sold me my last turbo about a year ago...t3t4 60-1 .82 a/r for my mk3. Doubt you'd remember but thought I'd throw that out there!

I'll definitely be going with the kinetic / cts kit in the future when it's time to turbo the R.

[CTS Turbo]

Quote, originally posted by VR6OOM »

Clay, I'm a former kinetic customer and you sold me my last turbo about a year ago...t3t4 60-1 .82 a/r for my mk3. Doubt you'd remember but thought I'd throw that out there! I'll definitely be going with the kinetic / cts kit in the future when it's time to turbo the R.

Haha, thanks I get guys that i've dealt with in the past saying those things pretty often. Thanks for the vote of confidence I do recognize the screen name, but not the name in your profile haha: "y0 m0mma nugga"