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    1. Member l88m22vette's Avatar
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      10-06-2008 08:54 AM #1
      So yesterday my two friends and I installed my Boxster/Hawk HPS upgrade It was kind of a marathon, taking from 11am to 9:30 last night. We installed the 986 Brembos, replaced the stock lines with SS lines, installed new rotors, and bled the set-up using Motul RBF600.





      I also installed new 21mm FSB bushings, those were a pain in the @ss The red arrow is pointing to a nut you have to get to (two driver's side, one pass. side), and the best technique is to take off the wheel and use a 10mm ratcheting combo wrench (ratcheting combos are a must-have, except I don't ).

      Parts/price list:
      * Mk1 Porsche Boxster (986) front calipers - $415
      -- Porsche parts numbers 986.351.421, 986.351.422
      -- Brembo 1pc 4-piston aluminum calipers, as opposed to the stock steel 2pc 2-piston calipers. I got them from German Auto Parts Distributors, an awesome source - 706-865-5200. Ask for Joe. I received the calipers in great condition.
      * 986 replacement hardlines and bleeder valves - $180. Pelicanparts.com
      * Pure Motorsports 986 carriers (with carrier to caliper bolts) - $175
      * Hawk HPS pads (or whichever you like)
      --- Boxster front pad #: HB289F.610 - $95
      --- Audi 225TT rear pad #: HB364F.587 - $50
      * SS front/rear brake lines (with spring clips) - $150, ECS
      * Boxster caliper-specific banjo bolts (different thread pitch than VAG) - $25, ECS
      * New plain, vented replacement rotors for 225 - $160, MJM Autohaus
      * Brake fluid - Motul RBF600, $45...I was going to use ATE Superblue, but that will eat up seals.
      I used these links for info, with the MkIV DIY as my canon.
      VwVortex: My DIY for Boxster Brakes on your Mk4 1.8T/VR6
      Boxster Project: Brakes: Bleeding and Flushing
      Porsche Caliper Part #s (I used this to make sure I had the correct calipers - after I found out I had the wrong ones)
      The worst part of all this is that I originally bought the wrong calipers (from a Boxster S) so I should have done this a month ago. I bedded the pads in last night (at my first big stop I saw a lot of brake smoke waft in front of my headlights ), but I will wait to comment on daily driving.



      Modified by l88m22vette at 6:45 PM 10-6-2008
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      10-06-2008 10:50 AM #3
      nice [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] cant wait to hear how they perform.

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      10-06-2008 02:26 PM #4
      What exhaust are you running?

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      10-06-2008 02:43 PM #5
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      10-06-2008 07:15 PM #6
      dope [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] how do they mount up? some kind of adapter or bolt holes in same location?


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    6. 10-06-2008 07:29 PM #7
      hmmm, trip to chicago is only 3.5hrs, you guys did such a good job maybe you can do mine too.

    7. 10-06-2008 07:35 PM #8
      you can get adaptors from pure motorsports

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      10-06-2008 07:44 PM #9
      Quote, originally posted by turbott920 »
      hmmm, trip to chicago is only 3.5hrs, you guys did such a good job maybe you can do mine too.

      I could use the money
      BTW, forgot to mention, the calipers cleared my wheels by that much. Thank goodness I didn't need spacers
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    9. 10-06-2008 08:46 PM #10
      Badass! I can't wait for the results!

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      10-06-2008 11:27 PM #11
      spraypaint? weak

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      10-06-2008 11:33 PM #12
      Yea, I only did because I didn't want to rebuild the rotors...I will PC if they get crappy
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      10-07-2008 01:50 PM #13
      Nice set up mate, quick question, does the Hawk HPS Porsche pads have a stock connecter like what comes on the Hawk pads for the TT calipers or do you have to add a resistor to the connector so you don't get a dash light???

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      10-07-2008 02:15 PM #14
      You just soldier and seal the wires. The pad plugs into the harness, and I cut the pad plug and soldiered that, instead of cutting the harness itself. The sensor is only on the driver's side. Also, I went to the dealer two months ago, and they said I was in need of new pads, but I had a lot of pad left when I took them off this weekend...hmm
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    14. 10-07-2008 03:46 PM #15
      could of just got some wilwoods and you would of had new calipers and 2 piece rotors along with $200+ in your pockets

    15. 10-07-2008 05:36 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by cincyTT »
      could of just got some wilwoods and you would of had new calipers and 2 piece rotors along with $200+ in your pockets

      link?

    16. 10-07-2008 05:59 PM #17
      Jegs have the lines and the drilled/slotted kit and hotrodusa.com has the plain face rotors.

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      10-07-2008 06:08 PM #18
      i'm sorry, but i hated my Wilwoods on my 2800lbs MKIII GTI. if you're doing it for drag racing (light weight) or just for looks, then they're o.k., but they'll definitely brake worse than stock.

    18. 10-07-2008 06:41 PM #19
      4 piston, good pads, and 2 peice rotors and you think it doesnt brake better than stock?? It stops so much better plus there is no fade

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      10-07-2008 07:08 PM #20
      What pads do the Wilwoods use?
      I'm still content with this upgrade, aluminum 1pc w/4 pistons vs stock steel 2pc/2 piston - lighter, Brembo, and Porsche pads are probably easier to get. Also, it was $200 more since I did the rear brake pads, lines, and rotors as well.
      On a side note, the rear SS lines I received replaced the second curved hose that runs through the chassis, but not the main rubber hose that connects to the caliper. Should I get those custom-made, or does someone sell those? Seems kind pointless to not do both...Also, no front squeak kicks ass
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      10-07-2008 07:16 PM #21
      Quote, originally posted by l88m22vette »
      You just soldier and seal the wires. The pad plugs into the harness, and I cut the pad plug and soldiered that, instead of cutting the harness itself. The sensor is only on the driver's side. Also, I went to the dealer two months ago, and they said I was in need of new pads, but I had a lot of pad left when I took them off this weekend...hmm

      Sooo you just cut the pad plug soldier the wires together, connected it to the harness and then wrapped them with tape I'm getting that right

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      10-07-2008 11:42 PM #22
      you might have a better rotor than stock.........hopefully it's at least as thick but the caliper is SO small which of course uses a small pad which yields a smaller sweep area than factory. that will not increase stopping over stock.
      back when the mkIII cars went from 11.0 to 11.3, the surprise was they gained 33% more sweep area. the increase was more noticable than when the 11.3 went to a 12.3 on the same car!
      sweep area is the amount of pad hitting the rotor at a given time for those wondering what the hell i'm talking about

    22. 10-08-2008 01:35 AM #23
      Quote, originally posted by M this 1! »
      you might have a better rotor than stock.........hopefully it's at least as thick but the caliper is SO small which of course uses a small pad which yields a smaller sweep area than factory. that will not increase stopping over stock.
      back when the mkIII cars went from 11.0 to 11.3, the surprise was they gained 33% more sweep area. the increase was more noticable than when the 11.3 went to a 12.3 on the same car!
      sweep area is the amount of pad hitting the rotor at a given time for those wondering what the hell i'm talking about

      The rotors are thick and very high quality. The caliper is as big as these brembos. I did notice a big improvement over stock and the lack of fade is wonderful. They arent cayanne 6 pots, but they are more than enough for me on the street
      Quote, originally posted by l88m22vette »
      What pads do the Wilwoods use?
      I'm still content with this upgrade, aluminum 1pc w/4 pistons vs stock steel 2pc/2 piston - lighter, Brembo, and Porsche pads are probably easier to get. Also, it was $200 more since I did the rear brake pads, lines, and rotors as well.
      On a side note, the rear SS lines I received replaced the second curved hose that runs through the chassis, but not the main rubber hose that connects to the caliper. Should I get those custom-made, or does someone sell those? Seems kind pointless to not do both...Also, no front squeak kicks ass

      Since when did the TT have a 2 piston caliper
      If my math was right adding just the fronts up, it was over $1100 and the wilwoods were just over $900. But anyways, sell your stock carriers to a A4/passat/gti/jetta guy and recoup some of your money back
      As for their pad, ill have to look that up since i dont remember. It is pretty high temp, almost to much for the street.

    23. 10-08-2008 02:08 AM #24
      kinda surprised Murder didn't chime in with this link yet http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3991500 neither have terrible reviews and the review of the new Wilwoods is interesting and 44lbs weight reduction up front w/ the Wilwoods? does that sound right?

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      10-08-2008 10:00 AM #25
      Actually, I'm going to sell the Boxster S calipers I bought, and painted And, Mark, yes, thats exactly how you do the pad sensor - when you wear the brakes down to a certain point, it just breaks the circuit. You have to unbrake it If only I was this clever off the internet
      Also, great thread find turbo
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