02M Steel Billet Flywheels, Sachs & Clutchnet Clutch Kits -Free Ground Lower 48

[mattevandavis]

PROPS to FourSeasons. Done lots of business with them. Quality stuff Great prices. James Is the man!

[mattevandavis]

Ordered my Clutchnet clutch today. Got the stage 3, copper/copper cluctch, AL fly, and pel diff! Best price i could find on the net!!

Cant wait to get the 02M installed with my new toys!

[dubdoor]

^ same 'cept with the steel FW...

bump for one of the good guys...!!!

[dubdoor]

so far so good...100 miles on break-in

a few notes thus far...

-clutch engagement is considerably lower in pedal travel than stock...
-pedal travel is stiffer than stock: ~30-50% as stated by manufacturer...
-segmented copper feramic is grabby but still offers some modulation (not on/off)...
-this disc chatters at low rpm/low speed...
-16.5lbs clatters mildly, haven't put my foot into it, but one thing i sure noticed is revmatching on downshifts is effortless...

some of these attribute will likely change for the better with time...

more to come...

edit: LSD is amazing...get one NOW...!


Modified by dubdoor at 10:55 AM 4-19-2009

[.SLEEPYDUB.]

so which one of these will hold 700whp?

[FourSeasonTuning.com]

None of the single disc ones listed are made for 700HP. Contact if you want a price on the multi disc setup.

[Bdfrd 24v]

Just placed my order today.

Stage 3+ kit w/ steel flywheel

02M Peloquin

I'm anxious to see how much better I get the power to the ground. Looking for an install toward the end of the month/ begining of July.

James was very informative and quite quick with his research for me. Seems like a real top notch guy to work with

[FourSeasonTuning.com]

Thanks for the order.

[Bdfrd 24v]

Got the clutch and Flywheel today. Looks real nice.

Thanks again

[Nors]

Do all the kits come with alignment tools?

[FourSeasonTuning.com]

Yes, when purchased with a flywheel.

[FourSeasonTuning.com]

Stock Dual Mass Flywheel Added.

$489.95 OEM Dual Mass Flywheel Dual Mass Flywheel. 27 pounds with starter ring gear.

02M Dual Mass Flywheel $489.95 Shipped Ground

$289.95 Sachs 02M Clutch Kit Includes Pressure Plate, Disc and Release bearing.

02M Sachs Clutch Kit $359.95 Shipped Ground


Modified by FourSeasonTuning.com at 11:05 AM 7-19-2009

[29er]

Been running the billet steel flywheel with a stock clutch for about 2k miles of daily driving, highly recommended

[adaptorman]

ive orderd mine too from james ,, very helpful guy , ill also be runing stock clutch on my turboed engine , any ideas on how mutch boost i can run on stock , tryed it on 8psi and holds fine and that was with a dual mass fitted ,

[FourSeasonTuning.com]

Thanks for the order. Stock clutches have done better than the DM flywheel.

[bjdunks3]

I recently purchased the stage 1+ w/16.5 lb flywheel. James was very helpful. However I do have a few questions for any of you guys who have this setup...I really just want to make sure it was installed correctly. 1. My pedal seems to engage much higher than my stock before the slave went bad? 2. The clutch noise isn't what I'd call faint, more of a loud chatter. Is this normal? Or should I take it back to the mechanic?

[bjdunks3]

So get this.... I bring it by the transmission shop that put the clutch in. He says "it's probably not clutch related and that the noise is coming from the back of my transmission." it never made this noise before it only just turned 40k. I want to kill someone. When I press the pedal in the noise goes away. And when the fans come on the noise gets twice as loud. I don't know what to do. Any advice appreciated.

[FourSeasonTuning.com]

The noise is from going from a dual mass to single mass flywheel. A different pedal height is from improper bleeding. This kit uses the OEM pressure plate, OEM release bearing and same step height as the OEM flywheel. Some user's have bumped the idle 150-200 rpm and it seemed to help a little. Noise varies from car to car.

We spoke today and the car does not have a engagement issue.

[bjdunks3]

thanks James very helpful once again! So if I have the clutch rebled I won't risk damaging the slave right?

[GRN6IX]

Ordered the Stage 1+ kit from James. Great guy! Customized my shipping for me too!

[.:R32_Honda_Slayer]

Hey I was just curious to know which clutch kit would you recommend for road racing an mk4 r32 with basic mods (cai, software, exhaust) that has future plans for a turbo kit producing between 400- 450 ft lbs?

[FourSeasonTuning.com]

South Bend rates their stage 2 w/ Kevlar disc to 375 TQ
http://fourseasontuning.com/?product=737
And the OFE stage 3 to 450TQ.
http://fourseasontuning.com/?product=737

We have used the 2.8 24V Flywheel with matching 2.8 24V clutch kits on the R32.

FST Steel Billet Flywheel Single Mass steel billet Flywheel. 16.5 pounds with starter ring gear. Comes with 10 Flywheel and 6 pressure plate bolts.

02M FST STEEL BILLET L/W Flywheel $374.95 Shipped Ground

Sachs Racing also offers some kits rated up to 484 TQ. Those have a different pressure plate and 4 puck sintered unsprung disc. Pricing and availability will be announced after the new year.

[.:R32_Honda_Slayer]

Is the FST steel flywheel compatible with the sachs racing, and what kind of driveability can be expected? I am interested in the sachs racing clutch. Thank you for your time

[FourSeasonTuning.com]

We had special flywheel made for the Sachs racing pressure plate and 4 puck disc. The flywheel cost will be similar in price to our current 02M offerings.

The unsprung 4 puck is not that forgiving,However Sachs rates it higher than their unsprung full face organic disc.

[chans]

newbie questions....

besides chatter noise, what's the downside to a really light flywheel(eg, 9 lbs)?
what's the upside? i want to compare this to the 16lb flywheel.

i understand that stage 2/stage 3 is for high power/high torque applications,
but what are the pros and cons for a daily driver?
if i plan to add a big turbo in the future, should i just go with a stage 2/3?

thanks!

[FourSeasonTuning.com]

Upside to alloy is lightweight , downside ( not shared by all) is overall driveability and strength. The heavier weight still spools well and many users prefer it to the 9 pound ones.

As for the clutch ? Something with a full face disc would be better as a daily driver. The 4 and 6 puck designs are more harsh engagement wise, but offer more higher Torque ratings due to the friction material and design.

Here are a few choices, depending on your power.

Clutchnet stage 2
http://fourseasontuning.com/?product=598

Southbend stage 3 OFE
http://fourseasontuning.com/?product=737

[chans]

Quote, originally posted by FourSeasonTuning.com »

Upside to alloy is lightweight , downside ( not shared by all) is overall driveability and strength. The heavier weight still spools well and many users prefer it to the 9 pound ones.

i understand this is mostly personal taste, but i'd like to hear people's
experiences on this. does a 9lb flywheel spool that much better to make
it worth the downside?

[Kraut1]

Quote, originally posted by FourSeasonTuning.com »

Here is a recent review from the MK4 Golf & Jetta Forum. It was using the 16.5 Steel Billet Flywheel (1.8T) and a stock 02M Sachs clutch kit. $639.95 Stage 1 Sachs Clutch Kit with 16.5lb flywheel FST Single mass Steel Billet 16.5 pound 240MM flywheel, 240MM OE Sachs Pressure Plate,Sachs Unsprung Disc,6 flywheel & 6 pressure plate bolts, OE release bearing. STAGE 1 KIT

James, what is the HP and TQ ratings for this set up???

[FourSeasonTuning.com]

Sachs does not release their numbers on stock kits. I would not go with the kit that you asked about unless your budget can not handle another $60 for a kit w/ a sprung hub disc instead of a solid. The solid disc was designed for use with the dual mass flywheel. I quoted some info from page 1 that explains this.

Your profile says 1.8T these kits use the same parts,but the 1.8T has a 6 hole crank flange and the VR6 has a 10 hole, so the flywheels are different.

STAGE 1+ KIT

Quote, originally posted by FourSeasonTuning.com »

The solid hub disc's are used with dual mass flywheel from the factory, the disc material is riveted/bonded to a segmented steel material ( where the sprung hub below has a larger steel backing more surface material for the friction material to bond to). This solid type is the OEM disc from your car. Sprung Hub steel backed disc's were designed for maximum burst and rotational strength. The sprung hub's six springs lessen shock of engagement, Sprung hub discs (similar design) are also used on the Audi S4/RS4 (2000-2004 era) also 240MM and a 6 spring hub, even with a dual mass flywheel. The RS4 with a factory modified LUK pressure plate and stock S4/RS4 sprung hub disc was rated for 380HP. The sprung hub disc is also used from the factory on almost all single mass clutch setups.The most used street type disc is a sprung hub for daily driving. Enclosed is the Kit with the Clutchnet sprung hub disc. http://www.fourseasontuning.com/?product=597

Modified by FourSeasonTuning.com at 9:12 AM 2-2-2010

[Kraut1]

So these set ups are essentially everything that would fit the car just swapping the unsprung for a sprung clutch that would otherwise go on an Audi RS4/S4 because they are both 240mm?

[FourSeasonTuning.com]

Similar to the RS4 but made for the 02M Gearbox, W/ sprung hub.

[16vg60jay]

Can these kits be posted to Australia?

[FourSeasonTuning.com]

Yes

[Vwaterhead]

Got my lwf/ stage1 sachs kit from you back in December. It's going in some time this week. I'll make sure and post how it's working out. Seems every thing I've read is super positive. I can't wait.

[Yevvy]

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