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    Thread: 02M Steel Billet Flywheels, Sachs & Clutchnet Clutch Kits -Free Ground Lower 48

    1. 10-22-2009 12:45 PM #51
      So get this.... I bring it by the transmission shop that put the clutch in. He says "it's probably not clutch related and that the noise is coming from the back of my transmission." it never made this noise before it only just turned 40k. I want to kill someone. When I press the pedal in the noise goes away. And when the fans come on the noise gets twice as loud. I don't know what to do. Any advice appreciated.

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      10-23-2009 01:59 AM #52
      The noise is from going from a dual mass to single mass flywheel. A different pedal height is from improper bleeding. This kit uses the OEM pressure plate, OEM release bearing and same step height as the OEM flywheel. Some user's have bumped the idle 150-200 rpm and it seemed to help a little. Noise varies from car to car.
      We spoke today and the car does not have a engagement issue.
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    3. 10-26-2009 12:08 AM #53
      thanks James very helpful once again! So if I have the clutch rebled I won't risk damaging the slave right?

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      10-28-2009 06:53 PM #54
      Ordered the Stage 1+ kit from James. Great guy! Customized my shipping for me too!

    5. 11-18-2009 04:07 AM #55
      Hey I was just curious to know which clutch kit would you recommend for road racing an mk4 r32 with basic mods (cai, software, exhaust) that has future plans for a turbo kit producing between 400- 450 ft lbs?

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      11-20-2009 02:30 PM #56
      South Bend rates their stage 2 w/ Kevlar disc to 375 TQ
      http://fourseasontuning.com/?product=737
      And the OFE stage 3 to 450TQ.
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      We have used the 2.8 24V Flywheel with matching 2.8 24V clutch kits on the R32.
      FST Steel Billet Flywheel Single Mass steel billet Flywheel. 16.5 pounds with starter ring gear. Comes with 10 Flywheel and 6 pressure plate bolts.

      02M FST STEEL BILLET L/W Flywheel $374.95 Shipped Ground

      Sachs Racing also offers some kits rated up to 484 TQ. Those have a different pressure plate and 4 puck sintered unsprung disc. Pricing and availability will be announced after the new year.
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    7. 11-21-2009 02:38 PM #57
      Is the FST steel flywheel compatible with the sachs racing, and what kind of driveability can be expected? I am interested in the sachs racing clutch. Thank you for your time

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      11-24-2009 12:30 PM #58
      We had special flywheel made for the Sachs racing pressure plate and 4 puck disc. The flywheel cost will be similar in price to our current 02M offerings.
      The unsprung 4 puck is not that forgiving,However Sachs rates it higher than their unsprung full face organic disc.
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    9. 12-30-2009 02:00 PM #59

      newbie questions....
      besides chatter noise, what's the downside to a really light flywheel(eg, 9 lbs)?
      what's the upside? i want to compare this to the 16lb flywheel.
      i understand that stage 2/stage 3 is for high power/high torque applications,
      but what are the pros and cons for a daily driver?
      if i plan to add a big turbo in the future, should i just go with a stage 2/3?
      thanks!

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      01-02-2010 12:16 PM #60
      Upside to alloy is lightweight , downside ( not shared by all) is overall driveability and strength. The heavier weight still spools well and many users prefer it to the 9 pound ones.
      As for the clutch ? Something with a full face disc would be better as a daily driver. The 4 and 6 puck designs are more harsh engagement wise, but offer more higher Torque ratings due to the friction material and design.
      Here are a few choices, depending on your power.

      Clutchnet stage 2
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      Southbend stage 3 OFE
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    11. 01-02-2010 08:54 PM #61

      Quote, originally posted by FourSeasonTuning.com »
      Upside to alloy is lightweight , downside ( not shared by all) is overall driveability and strength. The heavier weight still spools well and many users prefer it to the 9 pound ones.

      i understand this is mostly personal taste, but i'd like to hear people's
      experiences on this. does a 9lb flywheel spool that much better to make
      it worth the downside?

    12. 02-01-2010 11:16 PM #62
      Quote, originally posted by FourSeasonTuning.com »
      Here is a recent review from the MK4 Golf & Jetta Forum. It was using the 16.5 Steel Billet Flywheel (1.8T) and a stock 02M Sachs clutch kit.
      $639.95 Stage 1 Sachs Clutch Kit with 16.5lb flywheel FST Single mass Steel Billet 16.5 pound 240MM flywheel, 240MM OE Sachs Pressure Plate,Sachs Unsprung Disc,6 flywheel & 6 pressure plate bolts, OE release bearing.

      STAGE 1 KIT

      James, what is the HP and TQ ratings for this set up???

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      02-02-2010 12:06 PM #63
      Sachs does not release their numbers on stock kits. I would not go with the kit that you asked about unless your budget can not handle another $60 for a kit w/ a sprung hub disc instead of a solid. The solid disc was designed for use with the dual mass flywheel. I quoted some info from page 1 that explains this.
      Your profile says 1.8T these kits use the same parts,but the 1.8T has a 6 hole crank flange and the VR6 has a 10 hole, so the flywheels are different.

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      Quote, originally posted by FourSeasonTuning.com »

      The solid hub disc's are used with dual mass flywheel from the factory, the disc material is riveted/bonded to a segmented steel material ( where the sprung hub below has a larger steel backing more surface material for the friction material to bond to). This solid type is the OEM disc from your car.


      Sprung Hub steel backed disc's were designed for maximum burst and rotational strength. The sprung hub's six springs lessen shock of engagement, Sprung hub discs (similar design) are also used on the Audi S4/RS4 (2000-2004 era) also 240MM and a 6 spring hub, even with a dual mass flywheel. The RS4 with a factory modified LUK pressure plate and stock S4/RS4 sprung hub disc was rated for 380HP. The sprung hub disc is also used from the factory on almost all single mass clutch setups.The most used street type disc is a sprung hub for daily driving.
      Enclosed is the Kit with the Clutchnet sprung hub disc.

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    14. 02-02-2010 01:10 PM #64
      So these set ups are essentially everything that would fit the car just swapping the unsprung for a sprung clutch that would otherwise go on an Audi RS4/S4 because they are both 240mm?

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      02-02-2010 01:48 PM #65
      Similar to the RS4 but made for the 02M Gearbox, W/ sprung hub.
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    16. 03-16-2010 11:45 AM #66
      Can these kits be posted to Australia?

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      03-16-2010 12:51 PM #67
      Yes
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      03-21-2010 03:31 PM #68
      Got my lwf/ stage1 sachs kit from you back in December. It's going in some time this week. I'll make sure and post how it's working out. Seems every thing I've read is super positive. I can't wait.

    19. 03-22-2010 02:57 AM #69
      IM sent

    20. 04-19-2010 05:59 AM #70
      Hey, I was wondering if you had a sachs high performance clutch kit with the 16.5 pound flywheel for an 04 r32 available. any info would be much appreciated, thanks

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      04-21-2010 06:42 PM #71
      DXD/Southbend offer two kits for the 02M using the Sachs Sport Pressure plates.
      These are made for 2.8 24V VR6 and 1.8T with 02M. So for the R32 you can use the 2.8 24V flywheel here ( has a smaller step height but these kits are made for that).
      I can provide the links for the kits after they are listed.

      02M FST STEEL BILLET L/W Flywheel $374.95 Shipped Ground
      Stage III Daily has a organic sprung hub disc and is rated at 470 TQ at FW $900 without a flywheel
      Stage III Daily has a Kevlar sprung hub disc and is rated at 485 TQ at FW $950
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      06-14-2010 07:32 PM #72
      Me thinks my throw out bearing is making some noise, probably going to be getting a call from me shortly!

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      09-03-2010 09:20 AM #73
      02M Sachs Clutch Kit $289.95 Shipped Ground
      Can you still honor this price? The link takes you to the kit @ $339.95.

      Thanks!

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      09-13-2010 12:28 AM #74
      IM Sent, prices fixed on page one. Thanks for the order.
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      09-23-2010 06:32 PM #75
      James thanks for the help and shipping, also for changing the shipping address a half dozen times. chomping at the bit to get this kit and get back on the road. want some bearings for gearbox? thanks again.
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