my R36 bigturbo build..

[VR6-GT42RS]

almost done with the intake manifold(the tb is a 80mm)..i do not have the injector adaptors yet..but it will come.. maybe i will paint this intake manifold black..

Modified by VR6-GT42RS at 1:10 PM 12-1-2008


Modified by VR6-GT42RS at 4:46 AM 12-2-2008

[29er]

nahhh polish it, it looks great

[VR6-GT42RS]

thanks maybe i will..as i see it, it can only look nice in black,grey or polish..

[chrisbmx68]

compared to full weight mk4's they are

[VR6-GT42RS]

maybe not..but the rallye im talking about runs the same times or even faster then mk 2s 4motion with r32 turbo with big power.it runs 10,3 on toyos 888..2.1bar on turbonetic t72 and nitrous makes some kind of hp/torque on a vr.

[kevhayward]

Quote, originally posted by chrisbmx68 »

compared to full weight mk4's they are

FWD or AWD?

My friend's Rallye VRT weighs the same as my Corrado VRT, both full road spec with full interiors, 17" road wheels, big brakes etc etc.... ~ 1300Kg.

FWD MK4s also weigh ~ 1250 - 1330Kg

AWD MK4s are ~ 1500Kg.

[WolfzGangVR6]

so are you going to tap ports for your injectors ontop of the custom manifold?
i see you already welded up the factory FSI ports. this thing is gonna be sick!!! wish i had the money to play around with such expensive engine/turbo setups!!

good luck as i don't think you'll need it

[foffa2002@home]

Quote, originally posted by kevhayward »

FWD or AWD? My friend's Rallye VRT weighs the same as my Corrado VRT, both full road spec with full interiors, 17" road wheels, big brakes etc etc.... ~ 1300Kg. FWD MK4s also weigh ~ 1250 - 1330Kg AWD MK4s are ~ 1500Kg.

even more
Daniels AWD 2.8L 24 MK4 weight 1680kh and my jetta Mk4 FWD weight 1450kg

Damn el-leather seats and crap

[VR6-GT42RS]

yes the injectors will be in the runners on the new manifold..like on a 12v vr6..i have not welded the oem fsi injector holes..what you see on the pics is only paper in the holes.. i will have mascined pieces ho fits in the fsi holes.. not weld it..

[RipCity Euros]

Quote, originally posted by VR6-GT42RS »

what you see on the pics is only paper in the holes

That should do

[VR6-GT42RS]

i dont think so..

[WolfzGangVR6]

i was on my crappy shop computer at work.. looked like some sloppy welds to me hahahhah. then i should have thought about the quality of the buil and realized it wasn't welded

that's sick though. even cleaner then just welding it all shut. i can't wait to see this beast in running form. then you better get us some vids!

[V.R.Lvr]

Quote, originally posted by VR6-GT42RS »

yes the injectors will be in the runners on the new manifold..like on a 12v vr6..i have not welded the oem fsi injector holes..what you see on the pics is only paper in the holes.. i will have mascined pieces ho fits in the fsi holes.. not weld it..

I dont see how that wont be a source of headaches down the road... Thats alot of pressure against a "plug", if you dont have a plug that seals off the combustion chamber at the very tip you'll have a combustion chamber outside the actual combustion chamber. I would have to imagine theirs a better solution, not to mention all the advantages of direct injection your throwing out the window by reverting back the old ways. Why not go with the direct injection, no injectors? no way of controlling injectors? What are the 2.0FSI guys doing when they step into bigger snails? Its an awsome project, no doubt, not trying to knock it, just thoughts out loud...

[05JettaGLXVR6]

Cause direct injection has a limit and the power that he is running is WAYYYYY past that. The mk5 guys have some upgraded fuel pumps but thats only going to get them so far.

[PhReE]

Basically because there arent really parts easily available for tuning the direct injection. No standalone's I know of do it, and then there is the issue of the high pressure fuel pump flow rates, finding big enough injectors, etc.

[VR6-GT42RS]

you can not find big enough injectors.. by the way..i will copy the fsi injectors in ss to block of the holes..thats not a problem at all ,no leaks..

[VR6-GT42RS]

New stuff from precision came to me today..

[16vtblackjetta]

nice can i have the one on the left for my VR?

[DannyLo]

Quote, originally posted by VR6-GT42RS »

you can not find big enough injectors.. by the way..i will copy the fsi injectors in ss to block of the holes..thats not a problem at all ,no leaks..

so simple, yet genious

[VR6-GT42RS]

the one to the left is for my street vr..i will build a new setup with earlyer spool up and 600hp.. i think i can live with out my gt42 setup on my streetcar now when i building the r36..

[WolfzGangVR6]

Quote, originally posted by VR6-GT42RS »

the one to the left is for my street vr..i will build a new setup with earlyer spool up and 600hp.. i think i can live with out my gt42 setup on my streetcar now when i building the r36..

i wouldn't mind riding a vespa colored PINK, wearing a pink helmet and green borat thong in the middle of winter, if it meant having a mk2 4WD R36 1000hp+ beast

hey manifold injection worked for years and some of the biggest HP cars run it that way so why not!

[04RSR32]

Sweet build. The only things that raise any questions are the Tranny and Haldex. Can both of these actually handle 1000+ hp? O2M's blow up with 500whp or so.. I don't think anyone has gotten far enough to see how far the haldex and other AWD bits are going to cope. I also remember seeing a few years back where the Haldex has a valve that will not allow you to exceed, i think around 750hp. Is this true?

Either way, sick build.

[VR6-GT42RS]

Thanks..i can only say one thing to you.. time will show.. i will strip alot of weight out of the car..upgrade to quaife dogbox,dss axles and lsd front and back..we will se what brakes..but low weight helps alot..and i think i will try to hold the torque a little down on this engine..

[04RSR32]

Quote, originally posted by VR6-GT42RS »

Thanks..i can only say one thing to you.. time will show.. i will strip alot of weight out of the car..upgrade to quaife dogbox,dss axles and lsd front and back..we will se what brakes..but low weight helps alot..and i think i will try to hold the torque a little down on this engine..

I'm sure it will be a trial and error thing. Best of luck to you!!! With 1000hp do you really need more than 7-800lb tq in a MK II??

[PhReE]

I doubt he will be revving much past 8,000 rpm, so 1,000hp = 656.5 ft/lb @ 8,000 rpm. It might be nice to go honda styles and rev to like 10k with less tq and make big hp numbers... BUT with 3.6L LOL I dont think there is going to be any shortage of tq...

[VR6-GT42RS]

i will not rev higher then 7600-7800rpm..i dont know what it will put down when im done with it..nobody have build a r36 with a gt45r yet..what i compared it to is a bmw 3,2(not m3) we build with a gt45r.. 1033hp/1009nm@1,7 bar, i dont know if i ever hit numbers close to that,but if i do i will not go higher..

[VR6-GT42RS]

video of the bmw im talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_V8Q8jTGu0 enjoy

[04RSR32]

Quote, originally posted by VR6-GT42RS »

video of the bmw im talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_V8Q8jTGu0 enjoy

Nice.. You pull 1000hp out of this thing you'll have everyone dropping 3.6L's in there ride!!

Whats the current highest HP VR out right now?

[Tom Long]

Quote, originally posted by 04RSR32 »

Nice.. You pull 1000hp out of this thing you'll have everyone dropping 3.6L's in there ride!! Whats the current highest HP VR out right now?

Rumor has it that there is a hybrid 3.2 / 2.8 24v outhere making over 1000whp and snapping rods using the same size turbo as this build

[VR6-GT42RS]

1000WHP..or 1000hp..???big diffrence..there are alot of forced rods on the market..not everyone is good for high power.. i have pauter rods in my r36..pauters hold 200-250hp each cylinder..more then enough for my projekt..

[Tom Long]

Intel is that the numbers are whp b/c it came from a dyno.

VR6-GT42RS - I have confidence you will make similar if not higher power on your setup

[04RSR32]

Quote, originally posted by pOrKcHoP bOy »

Rumor has it that there is a hybrid 3.2 / 2.8 24v outhere making over 1000whp and snapping rods using the same size turbo as this build

Damn.... What do you mean by Hybrid? 2.8l 24v with 3.2 head, sleeved probably too?


Modified by 04RSR32 at 8:59 PM 12-3-2008

[RipCity Euros]

Torque bends rods.

[RipCity Euros]

Quote, originally posted by 04RSR32 »

Damn.... What do you mean by Hybrid? 2.8l 24v with 3.2 head, sleeved probably too? Modified by 04RSR32 at 8:59 PM 12-3-2008

I think its just punched to 3.0 or 3.1

[PhReE]

The motor you guys are talking of put down 1000bhp, not 1000whp. Still an amazing build tho !!