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    Thread: my R36 bigturbo build..

    1. 04-21-2012 03:54 AM #2661
      Why is that peak at 5200rpm of the torque curve? I've seen similar on many DynaPack graphs.

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      04-21-2012 06:03 AM #2663
      I thought graph crossover should be at 5250, why is this different?
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    4. 04-21-2012 06:49 AM #2664
      Quote Originally Posted by vr-vagman View Post
      Why is that peak at 5200rpm of the torque curve? I've seen similar on many DynaPack graphs.
      i just love when people ask before read.

      again.

      because this is where i see full boost and i lowered it a little bit to late..anyway now you guys can see in wich direction this graph would have gone if i could run the same boost all the way..i saw 1197nm torque@5000 at only 26psi..but it is way too much for the dynapack..so i lowered the boost a lot in the middle area..just to see some top end power..

      today i stripped 4th gear..!
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      04-21-2012 11:03 AM #2665
      Quote Originally Posted by VR6-GT42RS View Post

      today i stripped 4th gear..!
      And with Quaife support, you need to wait 6 weeks for a new ?
      All in all, the Quaife have been holding up good?
      Your clutch is also holding up good?

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    6. 04-21-2012 02:05 PM #2666
      Quote Originally Posted by VR6-GT42RS View Post
      i just love when people ask before read.

      again.

      because this is where i see full boost and i lowered it a little bit to late..anyway now you guys can see in wich direction this graph would have gone if i could run the same boost all the way..i saw 1197nm torque@5000 at only 26psi..but it is way too much for the dynapack..so i lowered the boost a lot in the middle area..just to see some top end power..

      today i stripped 4th gear..!
      Any chance to see boost graph of this run?
      Indeed, if one checks other DP graphs over the internet, he will found similar peaks on many of them. Does that mean they all alter/lower the boost at that rpm? I'm just curious not offensive

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      04-21-2012 11:56 PM #2667
      Quote Originally Posted by sTT eV6 View Post
      I thought graph crossover should be at 5250, why is this different?
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      Different units of measure than what you're accustomed to seeing on dyno graphs.
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      04-22-2012 05:25 AM #2668
      Quote Originally Posted by BLSport View Post
      Different units of measure than what you're accustomed to seeing on dyno graphs.
      I would prefer to see a more common type of graph, as this is not helping me understand what your running.
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    9. 04-22-2012 06:39 AM #2669
      what you see is boost pikes...but they are only there because i lowered the duty cycle...the twin wg setup work really great..i can control the boost straight all the way to the rpm limit now..ill see if i can find the boost graphs..

      half a year if im lucky kristian.. yes gearbox did very well.clutch hold up great.i dynoed many times in 4th gear and 6-7 seconds every time..thats hard compared to on the strip(im in 4 gears at 6 seconds instead)
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    10. 04-23-2012 03:40 AM #2670
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      04-23-2012 01:49 PM #2671
      So what do you plan to do about the gearbox? Try something new or call me and ask to borrow another gear?

      How is SQS on deliverytime? Will their gears hold?

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    12. 04-23-2012 03:04 PM #2672
      Quote Originally Posted by hiawata View Post
      So what do you plan to do about the gearbox? Try something new or call me and ask to borrow another gear?

      How is SQS on deliverytime? Will their gears hold?

      Nice numbers anyway. Are you satisfied?
      haha i was thinking of you..but quaife has the gears in stock and im very happy...

      ill never buy sqs after seeing their 02m dragkit im not even a little bit impressed...it does not look any stronger then their normal 6speed..

      ill have a strong gearkit made by par if the price is realistic for me

      im happy with the numbers yes,i know it has more in it then shown at the graph...but our dyno is not big enough to show it..
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      04-23-2012 05:56 PM #2673
      I'm really curious what the max. would be that you can get out of the r36.
      Gearbox limitations etc. aside

      You are deffinately raising the bar for vw engines, this is 2jz Hp territory
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    14. 04-24-2012 12:42 PM #2674
      i would love to fill the block,run methanol on it..and add a big turbo that would be fun..but a serious gearbox upgrade is the way to go for me..power is high enough for 8`s..


      r36 is at the same level as ..bmw m3 6cylinder,nissan rb 6 cylinder,2jzgte ect if you ask me..
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      04-24-2012 01:19 PM #2675
      Very very very impressive!

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      04-24-2012 03:20 PM #2676
      Hello,
      what about a tiguan 6 Speed gearbox, the smaller version of the transporter´s gearbox?
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    17. 04-24-2012 03:46 PM #2677
      Quote Originally Posted by P-Racing View Post
      Hello,
      what about a tiguan 6 Speed gearbox, the smaller version of the transporter´s gearbox?
      why spend time on making that mq500 fit,and then have a gearkit made for a gearbox that nobody else in the world exept rene kuhnels whats to use for race.??? 02m is a great gearbox,i just need a heavy duty 4speed gearkit,and there is way more people in the world that wants to buy a strong gearkit for 02m.
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      04-24-2012 04:04 PM #2678
      Hello,
      if the case of the 02m is strong enough or you´ve made it strong enough, the 02m would be the better choose...
      but i think an orig. tiguan box is good for some high hp, ok maybe not for 1200 hp and 1/4 mile
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    19. 04-24-2012 04:15 PM #2679
      Quote Originally Posted by P-Racing View Post
      Hello,
      if the case of the 02m is strong enough or you´ve made it strong enough, the 02m would be the better choose...
      but i think an orig. tiguan box is good for some high hp, ok maybe not for 1200 hp and 1/4 mile
      my steel endcab works great and i made a lot of other changes to make i hold more power..im happy with it.

      as a stock gearbox upgrade i think you are right about the mq500.. but you can not even buy a lsd for it ..
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      04-25-2012 09:52 AM #2680
      ...and the tiguan box is not plug and play at all. We talked to rene and he made some measurements and told us, what he has done-that is a serious amount of real building in the sense of creating parts. The coolers have to disappear in front of a r36 to make it fit to a MK1 or MK2. No the easiest job, if you want german TUEV like we do.
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      04-25-2012 12:10 PM #2681
      Sorry to thread jack........but it would be easier to use a Tiguan Box on an MK4 R32? is there any thing to modify? any differences

      Sorry for my ignorance in this but it would be good to find a decent upgrade before going full straight cut gears or dog box.

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      04-25-2012 03:58 PM #2682
      Quote Originally Posted by VR6-GT42RS View Post
      my steel endcab works great and i made a lot of other changes to make i hold more power..im happy with it.

      as a stock gearbox upgrade i think you are right about the mq500.. but you can not even buy a lsd for it ..
      your endcap looks good, did you install a support for the 4th gear off the inlet shaft?
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    23. 04-25-2012 04:21 PM #2683
      Quote Originally Posted by turbowahnstefan View Post
      ...and the tiguan box is not plug and play at all. We talked to rene and he made some measurements and told us, what he has done-that is a serious amount of real building in the sense of creating parts. The coolers have to disappear in front of a r36 to make it fit to a MK1 or MK2. No the easiest job, if you want german TUEV like we do.
      @Michael: There are other cars with tiguan boxes, that also race. Most of them located in northern germany. You will see them in ROW;-)
      mq500 is only made for 4banger so an adapter for 6 banger is needed,flywheel,trans mounts axles and all the other small things...i don´t think it is worth it...


      my gear box is ready..mounted on the engine and it is going back in tomorrow.
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    24. 04-28-2012 12:46 PM #2684
      Har du været på Holeby idag?

    25. 04-28-2012 02:09 PM #2685
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      Har du været på Holeby idag?
      ja det har jeg

      this happen today..at the first race of the year..the steel endcap hold up fine..but now the outer gearbox housing just splitted in two... new solutions must be find to make the outer housing even stronger!

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      04-28-2012 02:24 PM #2686
      holy crap!

      Is it posible to weld braces etc on 02M housings?
      Housing was magnesium right?
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    27. 04-28-2012 02:41 PM #2687
      housing is a mix of magnesuim/aluminium..not easy to weld in...but i have some ideas..i was already thinking of when i made the steel endcap..but i did not made it because i did not think it was needed..but it was!
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      04-28-2012 03:49 PM #2688
      Something like building a steel cage around the housing connecting a couple of mountingpoints and ruducing flex?
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      04-28-2012 04:22 PM #2689
      Is a crack like that caused by twisting or from the gears spreading? If so, Would it be easier to figure out how to keep the gears/stack from spreading/twisting then reinforcing the housing to try & keep it together? Do you think cryo treating the box would help a little?
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    30. 04-28-2012 04:49 PM #2690
      when the axles try spreading with conical bearings in the end.. it will push out the same way as the axles is..and thats the end of housing


      those conical bearings does not help..
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      04-29-2012 02:34 AM #2691
      Hello,
      i thought about welding the case to, but it´s die cast with allot of dirt pore and i think that it wouldn´t hold very good
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    32. 04-29-2012 02:38 AM #2692
      Quote Originally Posted by P-Racing View Post
      Hello,
      i thought about welding the case to, but it´s die cast with allot of dirt pore and i think that it wouldn´t hold very good
      agree.. i try welding in the last broken casing..no succes at all
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      04-29-2012 04:42 AM #2693
      Here is my casing that had some welding due to what looked like a crack..but we weren't sure, so better to be safe..

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    34. 05-06-2012 05:21 PM #2694
      Quote Originally Posted by VR6-GT42RS View Post
      ill never buy sqs after seeing their 02m dragkit im not even a little bit impressed...it does not look any stronger then their normal 6speed..
      You are on the big mistake, from this picture you can compare crown wheel tooth module with such on all gears........so you think gears are not "big enough" ???


    35. 05-07-2012 10:35 AM #2695
      here is the "dead" of my gearbox.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wT8u87BGtw


      and here is the frontpage of the car magasin vmax http://issuu.com/benjamin-media/docs/vmax157_issuu
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