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    1. Member 88vwFox's Avatar
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      04-30-2009 02:51 PM #106
      the side by side pics of the heads tell a great story. plus the fact the new 2.5 uses the same bell housing as the old I4's. how long is it from crank pully to bellhousing?


      this is a great swap. it's like the new audi tt rs. 2.5l 5 banger turbo AWD. great combo, fyi the new audi is rated at 325hp but it's FSI. I hope you crush that.

      Budget $2500. car -$1040 = $1460 to make it better.

    2. 05-01-2009 08:21 AM #107
      ridiculous cant wait to see a finished product. I thought my mk2 vr6 swap was cool.

    3. 05-01-2009 11:04 PM #108
      WOW! Never thought I would see the day this would be necesarry
      Quote, originally posted by Golf 2.0T »

      out with the VR

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      05-03-2009 10:38 AM #109
      Quote, originally posted by 88vwFox »
      the side by side pics of the heads tell a great story. plus the fact the new 2.5 uses the same bell housing as the old I4's. how long is it from crank pully to bellhousing?


      this is a great swap. it's like the new audi tt rs. 2.5l 5 banger turbo AWD. great combo, fyi the new audi is rated at 325hp but it's FSI. I hope you crush that.

      yep its a nice motor .. as for the lenght of the engine block a conpared with the VR and if i remember corectly the 2.5 was like 1/2 inch longer than the VR but im not sure ...it was longer but nut by THAT much ...will remesure it soon ...we started to rebuild the motor will post some pics soon

      and for the TT-RS you want me to crush ..i would'nt worry about that

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      05-03-2009 11:13 AM #110
      not to TJ but i would like to know because the vw fox only came with the classic 1.8l 8v and the old I5's use a different bellhousing, so if the new I5's use the old 4 banger bellhousings then it would be a MUCH easier swap. The hang up on the fox though is the room you have to work with in LIMITED to say the least. Just wondering if it would fit.

      Back on topic, I ALMOST sold everything i had a couple years ago to get a mk5 rabbit just to get a 2.5L and see if anything could come of it. good to see it's being pushed.

      Budget $2500. car -$1040 = $1460 to make it better.

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      05-03-2009 12:28 PM #111
      Quote, originally posted by 88vwFox »
      not to TJ but i would like to know because the vw fox only came with the classic 1.8l 8v and the old I5's use a different bellhousing, so if the new I5's use the old 4 banger bellhousings then it would be a MUCH easier swap. The hang up on the fox though is the room you have to work with in LIMITED to say the least. Just wondering if it would fit.

      Back on topic, I ALMOST sold everything i had a couple years ago to get a mk5 rabbit just to get a 2.5L and see if anything could come of it. good to see it's being pushed.

      it bolts to the fox tranny thats for sure .. but i cant tell you if it would actualy fit under the hood .. that would be a sick sounding fox tho

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      05-28-2009 11:28 PM #112
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      05-30-2009 10:00 PM #113
      This build finished is going to be amazing
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      06-01-2009 02:43 AM #114
      wow ive never seen a 2.5 head off the chain cover integrated into he head. oh so interesting. Keep it up!

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      06-01-2009 09:59 PM #115
      in the watched topics.

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      06-02-2009 05:36 PM #116
      you guys are all saying you cant wait till it's done, I can't wait to see details of everything going in!

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      06-07-2009 06:15 PM #117
      the work on the car started

      only got one pics ...more to come

      motor in the engine bay but not in actual final position ...

      had to cut a fews inches off the passenger side rail for the motor to fit and the oil filter comes in contact with the front crossmember

      more info soon

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      06-07-2009 09:04 PM #118
      progress is good
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    14. 06-08-2009 01:38 AM #119
      Thats a cool swap. I'll have to pay attention to this one. Alot of hurtles that you have yet to overcome, but thats the fun part.

    15. 06-09-2009 04:18 PM #120
      sickness

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      06-12-2009 05:44 PM #121
      Looks awesome cant wait to see what the finished product looks like
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      06-15-2009 12:48 AM #122
      wow the clearance is nutzzz

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      06-15-2009 01:06 AM #123
      did you get any new pics of the tight fit yet?
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      06-17-2009 10:54 AM #124
      Sick project, keep up the great work.
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      06-19-2009 09:52 AM #125
      this thing is gonna be badass! watching
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      06-30-2009 12:39 PM #126
      update?
      Budget $2500. car -$1040 = $1460 to make it better.

    22. 06-30-2009 02:51 PM #127
      amazzzing build!!
      #bankrupt

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      07-01-2009 07:50 PM #128



      here is the progress so far .. the last pic shows what had to be removed from the passenger side rail ..

      it took 3 100% custom made engine mounts and some minor triming of the 02M and engine block for them to fit together



      Modified by Golf 2.0T at 7:34 PM 7-1-2009

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      07-02-2009 12:12 AM #129
      damn that is one hell of a post. If people keep up these kinds of swaps soon it will be as bad as.... dare i say it. Honda's. LOL. VW needs a place that can make mounts for any vw motor to fit into everything.


      Great work looks like it's going to be very nice.

      Budget $2500. car -$1040 = $1460 to make it better.

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      07-03-2009 10:29 AM #130
      haha, I seriously doubt VW ever intended the 5 cylinder to fit into a mk3... there's a reason they didn't put one in to begin with!
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    26. 07-03-2009 10:56 AM #131
      Looking good. I`ll try to post some pics of mine frame rail before I reinstalled the motor. pretty big piece that needs to be cut out.

    27. 07-03-2009 12:29 PM #132
      Quote, originally posted by Golf 2.0T »
      just received this today

      brand new Tial .82 stainless housing V-Band

      waiting for some other cool stuff


      wow


      TIAL stainless housing!!!


      this is turning out to be a killler build!

      #bankrupt

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      07-03-2009 01:16 PM #133
      Quote, originally posted by Lloyd Plumtree »
      Looking good. I`ll try to post some pics of mine frame rail before I reinstalled the motor. pretty big piece that needs to be cut out.

      yes you gotta cut for the engine to fit ..the motor is kind of boxed into the frame .. we were kind of surprised when we had to cut that much since the motor was not significantly larger than the vr ..but what we forgot was that the VR is like inclined 15* forward ..and the 2.5 is like any 4cyl so 15* backwards ..and the space between the side rails gets narrower near the shock tower ...so if it would have been forward like a VR it would have fit right in , probably without even cutting the rail ... and all the engine mounts needs to be fabbed up since were using a 02M ... and the cross member needs some modification because of the oil filter housing that comes in contact with the stock cross member...next thing we will install the rear diff and drive shaft ..oh and we started the tubular 5 to 1 exhaust manifold

      thank you all for the comments


      Modified by Golf 2.0T at 10:18 AM 7-3-2009

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      07-03-2009 08:16 PM #134
      just out of curiosity, do you have any sort of timeframe for this project? Seems like to me it's gonna be a while... haha

      but totally worth it when it's done

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    30. 07-04-2009 09:52 AM #135
      Quote, originally posted by notso2slo »
      haha, I seriously doubt VW ever intended the 5 cylinder to fit into a mk3... there's a reason they didn't put one in to begin with!

      yep cause it didnt exsist.


      great progress! cut = custom!


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      07-04-2009 10:17 AM #136
      Quote, originally posted by notso2slo »
      just out of curiosity, do you have any sort of timeframe for this project?


      yes and no ... i would like it to be done before snow starts to fall ...then again it is 4wd ..

      there is still alot of stuff to do alot of custom stuff plus the complete bodywork ...its gonna be awhile

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      07-04-2009 12:44 PM #137
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      07-05-2009 05:04 AM #138
      god damn im glad i was bored and browsing this forum. Definitley following this build.

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    34. 07-05-2009 05:30 AM #139
      what type of tranny are you putting in that bad boy?

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      07-05-2009 10:00 AM #140
      Quote, originally posted by thekingCREOLE »
      what type of tranny are you putting in that bad boy?

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