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    Thread: Where to mount a VDO oil pressure sender?

    1. Member '88Jetta16v's Avatar
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      12-11-2008 02:51 AM #1
      First off, I know this has been covered before and I did a whole bunch of searching. And yet, I still don't understand. Call me stupid.

      I'm going to be installing VDO Vision Series oil temperature and oil pressure gauges on my 16v GLI. And I'm going to be using this 80 PSI oil pressure sender:

      Now, I know that the oil filter flange contains both the high and low pressure senders and that doesn't leave me a place to mount this one.

      And I know that the MFA oil temp sender is around the back of the head and I'll be using that for the new oil temp gauge.

      Where can I put the sender pictured above to make things as neat and uncomplicated as possible?

      Thanks.

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    2. 12-11-2008 03:18 AM #2
      Your sig states that you have two 16v's. If you go here http://www.concept1.ca or I imagine, the 42 designs website, you'll find an oil pressure sender relocation kit.

      With this one of the two senders in the oil flange is removed and the flexable pipe installed and the sender(s) installed into the included fitting. This will give you some room to mount the sender; mine is mounted on the drivers side of the block.

      You also may want to check you have the sender you want...if you had the two pole you could remove one of the stock senders and install the two pole sender and your temp sender (with an adapter) on this fittting. Some believe a more accurate oil temp is given by locating the sender here. I'm sure others will add to this.


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      12-11-2008 04:40 AM #3
      I have mounted them to the side of the head on a 8v...where the dummy sender is....

      or

      U u can get a MKIII oilfilter mount it has extra spots to mount a oil pressure sender...

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      12-11-2008 04:42 AM #4
      like this.....


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      12-11-2008 12:29 PM #5
      Quote, originally posted by Brenten »
      If you go here http://www.concept1.ca or I imagine, the 42 designs website, you'll find an oil pressure sender relocation kit.

      Thank you. Yes, I am aware of the sender relocation kit but I was trying to stay away from that. It's more clutter I don't want to add to the engine bay and if I can get around it, it is $35 I don't have to spend.

      Quote, originally posted by sprocket007 »
      I have mounted them to the side of the head on a 8v...where the dummy sender is....

      This won't work on a 16v though will it?

      Quote, originally posted by sprocket007 »
      you can get a MKIII oilfilter mount it has extra spots to mount a oil pressure sender...

      That is interesting, but maybe a little more involved than I was hoping. I'm assuming this is off any ABA 8v? And the flange will bolt right up to the 16v block?


      Can anybody else help me out? I got the idea that people were somehow doing this in their 16v's without sender relocation kits and such but I didn't understand the specifics. Thanks.

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      12-11-2008 01:25 PM #6
      Put it on the driver's side rear of the head where the oil temp sensor for the MFA is.

    7. 12-11-2008 01:44 PM #7
      Couldn't you just use a tee on the top of the oil filter housing?

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      12-11-2008 02:05 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by Mr. Knappy »
      Put it on the driver's side rear of the head where the oil temp sensor for the MFA is.

      But I still need to mount the oil temp sensor somewhere b/c I need it for the new oil temp gauge and the MFA. Is there somewhere else it can go?

      Quote, originally posted by TerryFrost »
      Couldn't you just use a tee on the top of the oil filter housing?

      That would be nice, but if it were that simple, I don't think companies would be making relocation kits. I haven't seen a tee like that anywhere and I'm not sure if there's enough room.

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    9. 12-11-2008 02:06 PM #9
      i don't think there is enough clearence there

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      12-11-2008 02:46 PM #10
      Do yourself a favor to get a dual pole sender from a cabriolet or audi 4k. Eliminates the need for t fittings and that nonsense.You can run the warning light and the pressure gauge from it.

      Quote, originally posted by 1990calypso »
      i don't think there is enough clearance there

      It clears fine.My old engine.

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    11. 12-11-2008 02:47 PM #11
      im looking to do this too, i have another company gauge though. its made by snap-on or a subsidiary of them...

      the sender doesnt fit right into the 16v block, but they make a T fitting that you can order with an adapter that you can use to mount either an electrical (like the one I and you have) or a mechanical (the one with nylon tubing instead of wires). The nylon tubing one fits just fine because it doesnt use a sending unit, just a flange and an adapter for the outlet on the oil filter housing.


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      12-11-2008 03:01 PM #12
      Quote, originally posted by sprocket007 »
      I have mounted them to the side of the head on a 8v...where the dummy sender is....

      W


      would you mind snapping a quick picture of that? thanks

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      12-11-2008 03:28 PM #13
      Quote, originally posted by GLI_DRIVER »
      Do yourself a favor to get a dual pole sender from a cabriolet or audi 4k. Eliminates the need for t fittings and that nonsense.You can run the warning light and the pressure gauge from it.

      Awesome! So you're saying I should get one of these:

      GAP offers these in 0.3 bar and 1.8 bar versions. It looks to me like on your engine you replaced the 0.3 bar brown sender with the dual pole unit, is that correct? So I should get the 0.3 bar dual pole sender?

      They are $50 though....

      And were you using one of thse dual pole units to run a VDO oil pressure gauge? These senders are for 0-5 bar and 5 bar = 72 psi. I'm going to be using an 80 psi gauge.

      Thanks for the help so far.

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      12-11-2008 03:32 PM #14


      Use the dual pole sender for the low pressure and the gauge. Yes I used a VDO gauge from a porsche.

      You can get that sender alot cheaper from a yard.

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      12-11-2008 03:34 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by GLI_DRIVER »


      Use the dual pole sender for the low pressure and the gauge. Yes I used a VDO gauge from a porsche.

      You can get that sender alot cheaper from a yard.

      Perfect, thank you very much.

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      12-11-2008 06:00 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by sprocket007 »
      like this.....


      diiiiirrrrtyy oil sensor seats. eek.


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