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    1. Member Ian K's Avatar
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      10-24-2009 12:34 PM #126
      Leah's hardlines, done by the one and only.....Swoops.

    2. 10-24-2009 08:03 PM #127
      ^ badass

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      11-03-2009 11:03 PM #128
      Pretty cool that hardlines are making it into the air ride world. I spent probably an hour on Bent Custom's website earlier this year before I went ahead and did 99% of my bay lines in SS. I'm enjoying seeing these setups.

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      11-04-2009 11:20 AM #129
      I have hard lines in my set-up similar to the set-up above, but it was my first attempt and not the prettiest. Plan to redo it all over the winter.
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      11-08-2009 04:13 PM #130
      Thanks to swoops for driving out to staten island! [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    6. 11-09-2009 03:52 PM #131
      i gotta question tho...if u use copper piping wouldn't it be more of a higher chance to freeze in the winter time??

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      11-09-2009 08:39 PM #132
      Quote, originally posted by jetta PWR »
      i gotta question tho...if u use copper piping wouldn't it be more of a higher chance to freeze in the winter time??

      it'll only freeze if theres water in it as would a nylon line. there shouldnt be water in there if you drain the watertrap regularly and if you live in a harsher winter climate then airbrake antifreeze always helps

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      11-15-2009 10:01 PM #133
      Swoops hardlines looking tits [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      quick question, hows it sealing of copper pipe into ptc bulkhead, do you get good seal?
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      11-15-2009 10:22 PM #134
      Quote, originally posted by Rat4Life »
      Swoops hardlines looking tits [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      quick question, hows it sealing of copper pipe into ptc bulkhead, do you get good seal?

      thanks bud. copper seals exactly the same into ptc as the nylon, as long as its the same o.d. and of course you have to make sure the copper isnt egged. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      12-02-2009 12:14 AM #135
      heres a decent pic of something i've done recently.

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      12-02-2009 08:13 AM #136
      What kinda tubing? Still compression fittings?

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      12-02-2009 10:23 AM #137
      Quote, originally posted by Savko@HSTuning »
      What kinda tubing? Still compression fittings?

      x2! i like the looks of that...they look like Al....
      think of doing some hardlines on my project....

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      12-02-2009 11:06 AM #138
      Quote, originally posted by fouckhest »
      x2! i like the looks of that...they look like Al....
      think of doing some hardlines on my project....

      all stainless here w/ 37° flares.

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      12-02-2009 11:16 AM #139
      Quote, originally posted by Savko@HSTuning »
      all stainless here w/ 37° flares.

      i wouldnt mind seeing some pics...if your sharing...email me
      i wouldnt mind throwing some ideas back and forth...i am trying to hide as much as possible on my setup

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      12-02-2009 12:00 PM #140
      What flaring tool are you using in Stainless? I'm going to purchase the Imperial Eastman 400-F.

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      12-02-2009 02:12 PM #141
      A Rigid model. I think Kevin or whoever from AAC (whoever the sponsor is) posted a picture of one. Grey and black piece. I forget the model number. But, I have benders for -3, -4, -6, and -10. Got em all from an HVAC Tool company online.
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      Not my car or turbo setup but one of our customer cars' setups. Used both SS hard and SS braid depending on the line.




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      12-02-2009 02:23 PM #142
      Yes, then the Ridgid 377. I read that makes nice flares, but could give some trouble with .065" wall stainless since it's only rated for .035" wall. That's what I will probably use for my hydraulic lines. It's just over $120 though, compared to ~$350 for the Imperial 400-F, so I might buy it anyway.

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      12-02-2009 02:26 PM #143
      .065? lol, you don't need .065. I'm using .049 on 5/8 (-10), and then .035 on 1/4 (-4) and 3/8 (-6), and then .029? on 3/16 (-3). The wall thickness determines if the tubing will kink or not when you bend it.

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      12-02-2009 02:38 PM #144
      It's for hydraulic suspension, the pressures are considerably higher than oil lines! I have mine limited to 1500psi, but for the line between the pump and pressure relief valve I could see up to 3500 or 4000psi. I mis-typed .065" which is what the 10,000psi+ hoppers use, I meant to say .049" seamless which is what I will use.

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      12-02-2009 02:41 PM #145
      Quote, originally posted by Afazz »
      It's for hydraulic suspension, the pressures are considerably higher than oil lines! I have mine limited to 1500psi, but for the line between the pump and pressure relief valve I could see up to 3500 or 4000psi. I mis-typed .065" which is what the 10,000psi+ hoppers use, I meant to say .049" seamless which is what I will use.

      Gotcha. Seamless IS the tubing to use with flaring so sounds like you're on the right track. And like I said that Rigid flare tool will handle the .049.

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      12-02-2009 02:42 PM #146
      Yep seamless annealed. That's good to know about the Ridgid with .049" that will save me quite a bit of cash! Thanks

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      12-02-2009 04:13 PM #147
      Quote, originally posted by Savko@HSTuning »
      What kinda tubing? Still compression fittings?

      3/8" aluminum tubing with PTC and brass flared fittings for domestic oil lines. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      01-02-2010 08:31 PM #148
      just finished wiring this up, finally..
      tubing by swoops, extended and tucked easy street harness by me extended the senders and valve wiring by 6 feet. brain is where the monsoon amp would be
      the tubing is all aluminum by flare and PTC's out of the car. the compressors are mounted on Fasco motor mounts for additional vibration absorption, and the leader lines are shortened to 3" to allow for compressor movement.
      the line closest to the passenger side is the line out to the rear bumper for a aux air hookup ( impact gun, tire filler ect..) then next to that is the horn valve, followed by the 4 lines to each bag.
      Its been a while in the making, hope you guys like it!
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      01-02-2010 08:46 PM #149
      Looks so clean Ryan! You guys did a great job on it.

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