what are "Hardlines"

[HSTuning]

A Rigid model. I think Kevin or whoever from AAC (whoever the sponsor is) posted a picture of one. Grey and black piece. I forget the model number. But, I have benders for -3, -4, -6, and -10. Got em all from an HVAC Tool company online.

Edit:

Not my car or turbo setup but one of our customer cars' setups. Used both SS hard and SS braid depending on the line.

Modified by Savko@HSTuning at 2:17 PM 12-2-2009

[Afazz]

Yes, then the Ridgid 377. I read that makes nice flares, but could give some trouble with .065" wall stainless since it's only rated for .035" wall. That's what I will probably use for my hydraulic lines. It's just over $120 though, compared to ~$350 for the Imperial 400-F, so I might buy it anyway.

[HSTuning]

.065? lol, you don't need .065. I'm using .049 on 5/8 (-10), and then .035 on 1/4 (-4) and 3/8 (-6), and then .029? on 3/16 (-3). The wall thickness determines if the tubing will kink or not when you bend it.

[Afazz]

It's for hydraulic suspension, the pressures are considerably higher than oil lines! I have mine limited to 1500psi, but for the line between the pump and pressure relief valve I could see up to 3500 or 4000psi. I mis-typed .065" which is what the 10,000psi+ hoppers use, I meant to say .049" seamless which is what I will use.

[HSTuning]

Quote, originally posted by Afazz »

It's for hydraulic suspension, the pressures are considerably higher than oil lines! I have mine limited to 1500psi, but for the line between the pump and pressure relief valve I could see up to 3500 or 4000psi. I mis-typed .065" which is what the 10,000psi+ hoppers use, I meant to say .049" seamless which is what I will use.

Gotcha. Seamless IS the tubing to use with flaring so sounds like you're on the right track. And like I said that Rigid flare tool will handle the .049.

[Afazz]

Yep seamless annealed. That's good to know about the Ridgid with .049" that will save me quite a bit of cash! Thanks

[Swoops]

Quote, originally posted by Savko@HSTuning »

What kinda tubing? Still compression fittings?

3/8" aluminum tubing with PTC and brass flared fittings for domestic oil lines.

[ryanmiller]

just finished wiring this up, finally..

tubing by swoops, extended and tucked easy street harness by me extended the senders and valve wiring by 6 feet. brain is where the monsoon amp would be

the tubing is all aluminum by flare and PTC's out of the car. the compressors are mounted on Fasco motor mounts for additional vibration absorption, and the leader lines are shortened to 3" to allow for compressor movement.
the line closest to the passenger side is the line out to the rear bumper for a aux air hookup ( impact gun, tire filler ect..) then next to that is the horn valve, followed by the 4 lines to each bag.

Its been a while in the making, hope you guys like it!
again thanks to greg and santi

Modified by ryanmiller at 8:33 PM 1-2-2010

[Ian K]

Looks so clean Ryan! You guys did a great job on it.

[Kevin@AAC]

Up to the top.

[TimKouch]

ryan that ish is legit... simple and clean..

[dymer]

Quote, originally posted by ryanmiller »

Its been a while in the making, hope you guys like it!

Looks good dude

[JDriver1.8t]

I'm looking to do hardlines with my new hatch design.
where should I go to learn about them? What materials to use, what tools are needed, fittings required...

I have two of the mason-tech sold 3 gallon tanks w/ One 1/2"NPT port and one 1/4"NPT port on each end cap. One 1/4"NPT port on the side and one 1/4"NPT port on the bottom for a drain.
The tanks have individual compressors, and are in series to the manifold.

[Still Fantana]

Damn Swoops, looking goooooooooood
legit work on ryans trunk

[Kevin@AAC]

Quote, originally posted by JDriver1.8t »

I'm looking to do hardlines with my new hatch design. where should I go to learn about them? What materials to use, what tools are needed, fittings required... I have two of the mason-tech sold 3 gallon tanks w/ One 1/2"NPT port and one 1/4"NPT port on each end cap. One 1/4"NPT port on the side and one 1/4"NPT port on the bottom for a drain. The tanks have individual compressors, and are in series to the manifold.

Like anything there are different ways of doing things. I like to JIC flare my connections and use a nut and collar. Some people use compression fittings, and still others PTC, or swaglock if your looking to spend $$$
There is information in this thread of the tools I bought to do it here at our shop. Hardlines are very big in the hydro world, and Layitlow is the best Lowrider forum. You can search there or google.
The best way to learn is to do it! You are just going to waste some material in the begining.

[JDriver1.8t]

Thanks

[Santi]

Miller, I just wanted to say the setup came out sick!!!

[ryanmiller]

thanks santi!
i finally got to drive it today since it was done darn melted fuel line!

but a big thank you for getting the din plugs and ptc stuff, that really helped clean everything up

[Swoops]

Quote, originally posted by Still Fantana »

Damn Swoops, looking goooooooooood legit work on ryans trunk

thanks dude

[mikegilbert]

Quote, originally posted by Swoops »

thanks dude

Quality work, as always.

Makes me want to change things up.

[Kevin@AAC]

I will add a couple tips for 2010

"K" grade copper is nicer to work with. It is a bit thicker wall.
Always buy straight runs. Coiled copper is cheap and never looks as good.

[msuzuki126]

swoops/miller: how many wraps of teflon are you using? It looks like it's really caked on there

[Travy]

Quote, originally posted by mikegilbert »

Quality work, as always. Makes me want to change things up.

fly swoops out here and he can do your car and mine

[a2lowvw]

Quote, originally posted by Travy »

fly swoops out here and he can do your car and mine

it would be cheaper to buy the tools and some line and practice yourself

[mikegilbert]

Quote, originally posted by a2lowvw »

it would be cheaper to buy the tools and some line and practice yourself

Wanna go halfsies on some gear, Trav??

[Travy]

Quote, originally posted by a2lowvw »

it would be cheaper to buy the tools and some line and practice yourself

But then I wouldn't get to hang out with greg

Quote, originally posted by mikegilbert »

Wanna go halfsies on some gear, Trav??

too broke for car stuff right now.

[Still Fantana]

Greg's turning into the Santi of hardlines

[Swoops]

Quote, originally posted by a2lowvw »

it would be cheaper to buy the tools and some line and practice yourself

actually, to be honest, it probably wouldint lol. after the tools and tubing and fittings and all the trial and error and finally finishing your first hardline setup to come to the realization 8 hours later that you could have done it differently and better which has a tendency to repeat itself. i redid mine 3 times lol.
plus like travy said, then you guys wouldnt get to hang out with me. that comes free with the hardline install.

everyone else thanks.

[Santi]

Quote, originally posted by ryanmiller »

thanks santi! i finally got to drive it today since it was done <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://is.rely.net/2-64-38849-l-miLiM9RbflKgiExmFe7Gpw.gif" BORDER="0"> darn melted fuel line! but a big thank you for getting the din plugs and ptc stuff, that really helped clean everything up <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/grinsanta.gif" BORDER="0">

glad i could help somehow!! I still owe u for those 2 fittings also... bad santi

[Savvv]

I just made a hardline for my brother's Ego paintball gun. I tried to make it cool looking but he kept bitching about how it was in the way of getting a hand on the regulator so I editted it a couple times. I'll post a pic of it tonight/tomorrow.

[Savvv]

nothing fancy. ss 3/16" seamless with AN flares. no leaks, even with his nitrogen tank.

[Still Fantana]

thats sick

[G3Variant]

where to get fittings for hardlines? Im going to use hardlines from the tank to valves, compressors etc, but using DOT air line to the bags..

But dont know what kind of fittings I need..

any web shops?

and could i use loctite 545 on these? or should i use something else?

[enim]

Just wanted to share for you hardlines guys: source

[Still Fantana]

DAMN thats ****ing sick!!