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    03-25-2013 12:14 AM #1471
    Did a good bit of reading on here and have a general idea of what I want to do. However I have a few questions....

    Basically, I want to do hard lines on a simple air setup. From compressor to water trap to tank, then from tank to VU4 manifold, and then from VU4 manifold to bulk heads.

    1. Is it OK/smart to run stainless lines with brass compression fittings? I've seen a few set up with this combo and like the way it looks/contrasts. Will the brass ferrule in the fitting stick into the stainless hard line? Also, do I have to worry galvanic corrosion since they are 2 different materials? Or is it better to match the fittings and the lines?

    2. Thoughts on Parker brass compression fittings?

    3. What type of copper is typically used? Type L, type M, ect?

    4. Is the anything special that needs to be done when installing hard lines into PTC fitting (like the lines between the bulkheads and the VU4 and the line from the tank to the VU4)?


    I've done a few air ride installs before, but never with hard lines. So I have basic understanding of how everything works, but could use the help with the lines and fittings
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  2. 03-25-2013 08:28 AM #1472
    Quote Originally Posted by steveo27 View Post
    Did a good bit of reading on here and have a general idea of what I want to do. However I have a few questions....

    Basically, I want to do hard lines on a simple air setup. From compressor to water trap to tank, then from tank to VU4 manifold, and then from VU4 manifold to bulk heads.

    1. Is it OK/smart to run stainless lines with brass compression fittings? I've seen a few set up with this combo and like the way it looks/contrasts. Will the brass ferrule in the fitting stick into the stainless hard line? Also, do I have to worry galvanic corrosion since they are 2 different materials? Or is it better to match the fittings and the lines?

    2. Thoughts on Parker brass compression fittings?

    3. What type of copper is typically used? Type L, type M, ect?

    4. Is the anything special that needs to be done when installing hard lines into PTC fitting (like the lines between the bulkheads and the VU4 and the line from the tank to the VU4)?


    I've done a few air ride installs before, but never with hard lines. So I have basic understanding of how everything works, but could use the help with the lines and fittings



    1. No you should match the same materials. Stainless is much harder then copper and requires "stronger" fittings.

    2. Parker's products are all very good.

    3. Type L

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    Any information on how people do the brass fittings with the stainless? Would using a stainless ferrule in the compression fitting bite into the stainless hard line or would it just cause the fitting to expend and become junk?

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    03-25-2013 04:19 PM #1474
    Quote Originally Posted by steveo27 View Post


    Any information on how people do the brass fittings with the stainless? Would using a stainless ferrule in the compression fitting bite into the stainless hard line or would it just cause the fitting to expend and become junk?

    people use aluminum line with brass fittings, not stainless. also you cannot use stainless line with PTC fittings unless the PTC fitting is specifically made for stainless which is incredibly rare
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    04-10-2013 06:01 PM #1476
    finished up Cloudvi's setup this week. color matched the top tank matte white to match the wheels, and polished the lower, accuair exo mounts and alot of copper later= finished product


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    04-10-2013 06:06 PM #1477
    Nice work.

    What sort of bulkhead fittings have you used there?

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    04-10-2013 06:12 PM #1478
    Quote Originally Posted by Bazmcc View Post
    Nice work.

    What sort of bulkhead fittings have you used there?
    ive used Parker fittings on just about every set up ive done, havent had any problems with them so i havent othered using any other brand
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    04-16-2013 05:08 AM #1481
    what is easier, powercoated or painted lines? i still planning my system with a friend but we are think about both ways..

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    04-16-2013 12:18 PM #1482
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    what is easier, powercoated or painted lines? i still planning my system with a friend but we are think about both ways..

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    04-17-2013 07:59 PM #1484
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    05-04-2013 11:27 PM #1488
    Some hardlines I did for a friend the other day. 3/8" aluminum, black AN fittings with brass bulkheads.


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    05-04-2013 11:30 PM #1489
    Did some copper lines yesterday, on the setup yesterday. Not sure if I'm going to stick with them though. Quick question, for those doing stainless lines (or aluminum?), what fittings have you found are the best? Here's a pic of the copper lines, vibrates against the tank though, so not keeping it.


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    05-05-2013 12:35 AM #1490
    Quote Originally Posted by martin13 View Post
    Some hardlines I did for a friend the other day. 3/8" aluminum, black AN fittings with brass bulkheads.

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    05-10-2013 08:46 AM #1491
    Are any of you guys using stainless tubing with ISO Bubble flares? I usually use 37º single flares (AN/JIC), but I'm interested in doing some brake lines in Stainless. I'm not sure if my OTC Stinger bubble flaring tool will be up to the job?

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    05-12-2013 12:20 AM #1493
    Quote Originally Posted by martin13 View Post
    Some hardlines I did for a friend the other day. 3/8" aluminum, black AN fittings with brass bulkheads.

    jw how dose that work with the lines coming from one false floor to the other? unless its just hard to tell in the picture. it just seams like an accident that was covered up to me.
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    05-12-2013 02:18 AM #1495
    Hi Guys, amazing hardlines!

    Questions for people who using hardlines on your ACCU VU4,

    Did you get any leaking on those PTC ports?

    Some small leaking on my system, any idear? I use steel hardlines & Bite type fittings
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    05-13-2013 12:42 AM #1496


    Did some work with some wiring and 1/2" lines today.

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