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    10-12-2012 01:40 AM #3921
    have you ever tried doing rows with the half bar and 45 pd plates on either side ?

    talk about awkward in the gym and especially when that isnt heavy
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    10-12-2012 09:40 AM #3922


    It's not terrible with on of these. And the lack of knurling works on that there grip strangth

  3. 10-12-2012 09:50 AM #3923
    Quote Originally Posted by TheJuggernaut View Post
    Same here. So tired of these coach types overwhelming newbies with info, when they're barely strong/coordinated enough to stand up straight. I once saw a teen start to cry because he was so frustrated. The guy was teaching him to squat - knees out, arch your back, no the lower back, sit back, chest up, elbows forward, head up, no knees out, no arch your back, get your head up. He was so hopelessly confused that he forgot to lift the weight. I had to leave because the guy's kind of my friend and I was about to get rude.

    To me, that just shows that the person has no idea what they're doing either. Most of these people can't lift **** themselves and I'm sorry but that matters (not referring to you, just to the people who think that their ability in what they preach is irrelevant to their coaching value). I've found that most of what I've heard or read about training is crap and you can't find that out until you've yourself figured out what it takes to get to the next level, and it's not box squats, speed benches, periodization, westside for retards, anyone's principle or how hardcore they scream.

    I've come to the conclusion that the only value of a coach in strength training is to motivate the trainee to bust their ass and lift heavy weights, ensuring they do it in a way that is unlikely to hurt them. Then they should have enough experience to know all of the variables that they could systematically attempt to change to see what ends up working best for THIS person.
    I definitely agree on the over coaching bit. My personal method is learning by doing. I'll teach someone the most fundamental aspects of a movement, and then have them do it. Then while they're doing it I'll give them 1 thing to focus on. If they can make that 1 change I asked them for then we may move on to another thing, but usually it's just one thing one day, next session we'll smooth out another detail. etc...

    But I do disagree that you had to have been a good athlete to be a good coach. I think it can help, but I don't see it as a necessity.
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    10-12-2012 10:59 AM #3924
    I have a strange conundrum when it comes to coaching. On one hand, I completely understand that a person can learn everything they need to know, to coach someone on a movement, perfectly. But, at the same time, I have no interest in being helped on "movement" by someone who hasn't had a serious amount of time under the bar, and weight on the bar.

    To me, no book can explain what it's like when you have 2x/3x/etc your bodyweight on the bar. And, that mental aspect is huge in lifting.

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    10-23-2012 10:00 AM #3925
    This isn't from the gym, but still relevant.

    This past weekend while at Costco, I noticed they had 4lbs of Protein (Muscle Milk) for $30. In huge font it claimed 32g of protein. I was running low so I grabbed a bottle.

    It wasn't until yesterday that I noticed it's 32gs for 2 scoops. WTF? Not only does it mix horribly and taste like sand, but this too?

    Why doesn't ON claim 50g protein on the package? Ridiculous.
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    10-23-2012 10:05 AM #3926
    Quote Originally Posted by SurferbobGolf View Post
    This isn't from the gym, but still relevant.

    This past weekend while at Costco, I noticed they had 4lbs of Protein (Muscle Milk) for $30. In huge font it claimed 32g of protein. I was running low so I grabbed a bottle.

    It wasn't until yesterday that I noticed it's 32gs for 2 scoops. WTF? Not only does it mix horribly and taste like sand, but this too?

    Why doesn't ON claim 50g protein on the package? Ridiculous.
    That's fairly common. I'd say about half the products in my experience advertise the two scoop content. You gotta be careful.
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    When i'm lookin' to get er to spread 'em I usually just throw copious amounts of alcohol at the situation.

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    10-23-2012 10:10 AM #3927
    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Cote View Post
    That's fairly common. I'd say about half the products in my experience advertise the two scoop content. You gotta be careful.
    I usually just stick with ON which I believe is just 1 scoop for 20ish. But now I'm questioning that.
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    10-23-2012 10:17 AM #3928
    Can't you just go by the gross weight when comparing whey proteins?
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  9. 10-23-2012 12:03 PM #3929
    Quote Originally Posted by SurferbobGolf View Post
    This isn't from the gym, but still relevant.

    This past weekend while at Costco, I noticed they had 4lbs of Protein (Muscle Milk) for $30. In huge font it claimed 32g of protein. I was running low so I grabbed a bottle.

    It wasn't until yesterday that I noticed it's 32gs for 2 scoops. WTF? Not only does it mix horribly and taste like sand, but this too?

    Why doesn't ON claim 50g protein on the package? Ridiculous.
    The 6lb bags of Cytosport they have are 27G per scoop, I believe.

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    10-23-2012 12:06 PM #3930
    Quote Originally Posted by kryptonik View Post
    I have a strange conundrum when it comes to coaching. On one hand, I completely understand that a person can learn everything they need to know, to coach someone on a movement, perfectly. But, at the same time, I have no interest in being helped on "movement" by someone who hasn't had a serious amount of time under the bar, and weight on the bar.

    To me, no book can explain what it's like when you have 2x/3x/etc your bodyweight on the bar. And, that mental aspect is huge in lifting.
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    10-23-2012 12:18 PM #3931
    Christ, there are two guys I have never seen before doing the stereotypical curls in the rack deal. I normally don't care and find something else until people are done, but these guys take it to another level. The do 3-4 variations of curls, yell during each rep, and then stare down everyone after their sets. To top it off, they have the massive upper body sitting on the lower half of a 12 year old girl.

    I actually think it is the incredibly disproportionate look to them that pisses me off the most.

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    10-23-2012 12:38 PM #3932
    My new gym so far is lovely. Nothing gear-grinding. Yet.
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    When i'm lookin' to get er to spread 'em I usually just throw copious amounts of alcohol at the situation.

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    10-23-2012 01:42 PM #3933
    Got one that takes the cake.
    So, we have all seen the old guys walking around butt naked, or drying their balls with the hand dryer. I'd assume, most of us are probably even used to this.

    I walked in to the locker room on Saturday, to see an old dude, washing a **** stain out of his underwear in the sink using the hand soap, and using the dryer to try to dry it.


  14. 10-23-2012 01:54 PM #3934
    Yesterday while doing squats, a woman walks up and grabs a 25 plate from the rack I'm using, placing herself DIRECTLY in the path of my squat movement. Not sure if that means she is stoopid, or if it means I'm not going deep enough on my squats to make her feel endangered.

    Followed by minor offense: she returned the plate... on the wrong peg. I know, small stuff, but it really is the sort of thing they should explain to you when you join a gym. I do my part to straighten out areas I'm using, but I think if people saw the gym staff doing it more frequently, it might soak in.

    Not really a gear grinder, but there was a (hawwt) woman doing some sort of crotch tightening exercises on the pull-up assist lever. That's not really what that equipment is for, but I'll be damned if I'm going to complain about what you're doing.
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  15. 10-23-2012 01:56 PM #3935
    Quote Originally Posted by kryptonik View Post
    Hey, accidents happen. But you would think he might be a little more discrete about it.
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    10-23-2012 02:11 PM #3936
    While I do understand accidents happen, washing **** stained underwear in a sink used by the public is simply disgusting. You have an accident like that, you trash the underwear, and go home. Or, you just go home.

    It's not even just a courtesy issue to me, it's also a health issue.

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    10-23-2012 02:14 PM #3937
    Quote Originally Posted by wagenbob View Post
    Followed by minor offense: she returned the plate... on the wrong peg. I know, small stuff, but it really is the sort of thing they should explain to you when you join a gym. I do my part to straighten out areas I'm using, but I think if people saw the gym staff doing it more frequently, it might soak in.
    I always clean up the rack when I'm finished. Everything is on the right peg and it's balanced +/-1 plate from side to side. One time. ONE TIME! a guy came up to me and said thanks. I mean, I don't do it for the praise, it's mostly because I have OCD about that kinda stuff, but it's like most people don't even notice it. Or they just assume it's not their responsibility.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie View Post
    When i'm lookin' to get er to spread 'em I usually just throw copious amounts of alcohol at the situation.

  18. 10-23-2012 03:11 PM #3938
    Quote Originally Posted by wagenbob View Post
    Followed by minor offense: she returned the plate... on the wrong peg. I know, small stuff, but it really is the sort of thing they should explain to you when you join a gym. I do my part to straighten out areas I'm using, but I think if people saw the gym staff doing it more frequently, it might soak in.
    at least people at your gym re-rack the weights. everyone at my place just leaves the weights on there. It drives me insane because i could be waiting (or anyone) for the bench and as long as there's weights on there i assume you are still using it. i have to go ask the person if they're done. IF YOUR DONE RE-RACK THE F*CKING WEIGHTS. First day back in the gym yesterday from a 4month break (half marathon training) and i wanted to punch people.

    Quote Originally Posted by kryptonik View Post
    While I do understand accidents happen, washing **** stained underwear in a sink used by the public is simply disgusting. You have an accident like that, you trash the underwear, and go home. Or, you just go home.

    It's not even just a courtesy issue to me, it's also a health issue.
    ugh, yeah this. thats farkin gross.

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    10-23-2012 10:32 PM #3939
    Why is it no one can put the weights away below 40 pds ?

    I can put the 150 and 200 pd dumbbells away why can you put the 15pds ones away ?

    Is it to heavy ?
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    Fu(k a signature, you should be just introducing yourself with that. "hi my name is chilled man and i can bench all four of you skinny bitches, or find us a midget and I'll squat all five of ya." I'm impressed.
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    10-24-2012 12:36 PM #3940
    I'm so glad I'm not the only one bugged by people not putting the weights away (or in the wrong place). I just can't understand how people can lift weights and be so damn lazy.
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    10-24-2012 12:39 PM #3941
    Picking up after deads is the worst. I do it every time, I just need a little bit of time first.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie View Post
    When i'm lookin' to get er to spread 'em I usually just throw copious amounts of alcohol at the situation.

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    10-24-2012 01:48 PM #3942
    I used to hate picking up the weight after doing deads, but now I have fun with it. Take off all the plates on one side, stand up the bar on to the weights on the other side, then you get to Excalibur that ****.

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    10-24-2012 02:01 PM #3943
    Quote Originally Posted by kryptonik View Post
    I used to hate picking up the weight after doing deads, but now I have fun with it. Take off all the plates on one side, stand up the bar on to the weights on the other side, then you get to Excalibur that ****.
    Lol thought I was the only one who did that. I do get enjoyment out of releasing the sword from the stone.


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    10-24-2012 02:14 PM #3944
    Quote Originally Posted by kryptonik View Post
    Take off all the plates on one side, stand up the bar on to the weights on the other side, then you get to Excalibur that ****.
    Quote Originally Posted by ultimate steve View Post
    I do get enjoyment out of releasing the sword from the stone.
    I do this also.
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    When i'm lookin' to get er to spread 'em I usually just throw copious amounts of alcohol at the situation.

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    10-24-2012 03:42 PM #3945
    Yep i do it too. Started way back in high school.

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    10-24-2012 04:21 PM #3946
    Me too!

    When lacking a dolly, I'll take a skinny 2.5 pounder and roll the weight (first plate) up on top of it to make picking the additional plates easier. I've had people stare in wonder at that simple little trick.

    The only thing that grinds my gears these days is a group of guys that got huge into the strongman scene, and branched off into their own thing. The "leader" of the group got in a spat with my gym owner (we are all kind of like a family) and left, bringing a bunch of other meatheads along with him. Now he has a Facebook page that he updates with pictures of the "select group" every 5 minutes. Apparently he has a lot of time on his hands; he's basically created baseball card style pictorals on all the members of his elite group. It's kinda cute and annoying in that whole junior high sense.

    The saddest thing is one of the guys stood up in my wedding back in May, and I don't see him anymore, due to the "politics" of the gym.

  27. 10-24-2012 05:06 PM #3947
    Quote Originally Posted by kryptonik View Post
    I used to hate picking up the weight after doing deads, but now I have fun with it. Take off all the plates on one side, stand up the bar on to the weights on the other side, then you get to Excalibur that ****.
    I love showing that trick to new guys

  28. 10-24-2012 08:46 PM #3948
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    I love showing that trick to new guys
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    10-24-2012 09:06 PM #3949
    Quote Originally Posted by SurferbobGolf View Post
    This isn't from the gym, but still relevant.

    This past weekend while at Costco, I noticed they had 4lbs of Protein (Muscle Milk) for $30. In huge font it claimed 32g of protein. I was running low so I grabbed a bottle.

    It wasn't until yesterday that I noticed it's 32gs for 2 scoops. WTF? Not only does it mix horribly and taste like sand, but this too?

    Why doesn't ON claim 50g protein on the package? Ridiculous.


    You know your protein shake is bad when less than half of it is protein.
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    never thought once to use my lefty for the brake. sorry in my opinion it is dumb.

  30. 10-24-2012 11:05 PM #3950
    It's not uncommon for a protein shake's serving size to be 2 scoops. On top of that I don't see a problem with a serving size having a more than 2:1 protein to fat ration and nearly a 2:1 protein to carb ratio. Obviously taste is a matter of opinion, but MM is widely regarded at some of the best tasting protein on the market.
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    10-24-2012 11:52 PM #3951
    Quote Originally Posted by spoolin215 View Post
    It's not uncommon for a protein shake's serving size to be 2 scoops. On top of that I don't see a problem with a serving size having a more than 2:1 protein to fat ration and nearly a 2:1 protein to carb ratio. Obviously taste is a matter of opinion, but MM is widely regarded at some of the best tasting protein on the market.
    Muscle milk is tastes as good as nestle powder. I would only buy MM if I could afford it. I love the extra bit of cals and fiber with it. I only have protein only kinds, that are 1 scoop~25 grams when I wanna cut

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    10-24-2012 11:57 PM #3952
    Quote Originally Posted by spoolin215 View Post
    It's not uncommon for a protein shake's serving size to be 2 scoops. On top of that I don't see a problem with a serving size having a more than 2:1 protein to fat ration and nearly a 2:1 protein to carb ratio. Obviously taste is a matter of opinion, but MM is widely regarded at some of the best tasting protein on the market.
    If I want carbs and fat and great taste, I'll add.....wait for it.....whole milk. And I often do.
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    never thought once to use my lefty for the brake. sorry in my opinion it is dumb.

  33. 10-25-2012 08:28 AM #3953
    Quote Originally Posted by leaftye View Post
    If I want carbs and fat and great taste, I'll add.....wait for it.....whole milk. And I often do.
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    10-25-2012 10:02 AM #3954
    Quote Originally Posted by leaftye View Post
    If I want carbs and fat and great taste, I'll add.....wait for it.....whole milk. And I often do.


    Coconut Milk works great too.

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    10-25-2012 10:50 AM #3955
    I drink my ON with orange Gatorade after the gym, and with 2% milk before bed. I can't drink it with water, tastes nasty.


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