Volkswagen BlueSport Concept - KaChow!

[DarkNight24]

If they make it..... we will buy

[Veedubboy75]

looks like a TT convert, a s2000, and a porsche convert had sex and this is what came out, POOP.

the concept R was way better.

personally VW keeps going further and further from Euro styling to me, in the VW line, Audis look ok, but damn we get the sloppy 2nds in the VW scene............

[feels_road]

Quote, originally posted by MeiK »

Unfortunately they give us only a freaking TDI + an automatic transmission. Are 'ya KIDDING ME!? VW needs to grow some nuts.

If you read the press release, the concept comes with either the Diesel or the (twin-charged) 1.4TSI. Those, BTW, are the two engines most recent VWs have been released with, which indicates that this car is very close to production.

Also, some of you may not have noticed that this is a "mild hybrid" - regenerative braking and auto on-off at stop. That is much harder to pull off in a sporty car with manual transmission. My guess is that the MT car would not come with auto on-off, but I could be wrong.

I take the ~200lbs lighter TSI version with MT.

[wonderman1000]

first impression: S2000

second impression: a rear drive dub with a juiced up TDI, YAY!

[EvilGTI]

Quote, originally posted by DHRabbit »

Has there been mention of price?

HAHA!!! Thats the kicker all these cats claiming they will buy it.....

"The car’s platform is rumored be shared with the forthcoming Porsche 914, which would slot below the Cayman and Boxster"

Im guessing over $40k.


Modified by EvilGTI at 7:48 PM 1-12-2009

[gizmopop]

A Boxster is currently $44K.
No one here buys a VW that costs more than $40k.My guess is the VW version of this car will be in the $20K+ region.

[Tampavw]

Not my cup of TEA ,,give me my Scirroco Study R...or GTI-R

Modified by Tampavw at 8:47 PM 1-12-2009

[tekstepvr6]

Quote, originally posted by gizmopop »

A Boxster is currently $44K. No one here buys a VW that costs more than $40k.My guess is the VW version of this car will be in the $20K+ region.

I would guess around $26-30K for this. It would have to be priced below the Audi TT as well as the Boxster. If VW decides to build this it should hopefully cost less to build then the $31K Eos.

Eos 3,500 lbs vs. BlueSport 2,600 lbs = 900 lbs less of building materials

[EvilGTI]

Quote, originally posted by tekstepvr6 »

I would guess around $26-30K for this. It would have to be priced below the Audi TT as well as the Boxster. If VW decides to build this it should hopefully cost less to build then the $31K Eos. Eos 3,500 lbs vs. BlueSport 2,600 lbs = 900 lbs less of building materials

Oh is that how it works>?

[nicoli]

Quote, originally posted by oj1480 »

concepts are always concepts

Yeah, but this one looks way closer to a possible production car than Concept R did. I really hope VW can pull this one off!!!

[candela]

looks like porsche's stake in the vw group is becoming more evident -
mid-engine RWD TDI? yeah, I'm sold.... not worried about the tranny,
vw has never made a diesel without offering a manual option - the whole
automatic diesel is a relatively new (and lame) concept..

BUILD IT

[squitiere]

This is the only RWD roadster that looks good, without looking like a woman's car. With the diesel and traditional VW power/torque curves, this is going to be a sweet car.

I WANT!

[OOMPH]

ohhh my! aint this sweet!!! PLEASE not yet another tease!!and PLEASE let it come here!! Das Auto

[curvedinfinity]

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/S...ooped/

Car has said VW was shooting for 20k GBP. The R32 is 25k GBP in the UK, so 20k GBP translates to something like $25k.

[vwlippy]

I like it! I'd rather get the Scirocco, but I like it....

[jaegervw2]

YES! Now, put that drive-line setup and front fenders and a fastback on the Scirocco and you'd have the perfect car :-P

I love this as is though, now the big question as a;ways, will they build it, will it come here and
when can I buy it, because I'm NOT buying a Routan!!!!!!!!!

Modified by jaegervw2 at 10:49 PM 1-12-2009

[CSlowR32]

Somehow I don't believe that VW will make, less bring to US, this great two seater. Another tease the troops example designed to fire up expectations. This is just another car tease.

[jaegervw2]

The funny thing is Just a month ago I came up with this Karmann Ghia Design which called for a mid-engine rear wheel drive coupe....hhhmmmmmmmm

Ghia on the horizon?????

Modified by jaegervw2 at 9:28 PM 1-12-2009

Modified by jaegervw2 at 9:30 PM 1-12-2009


Modified by jaegervw2 at 9:31 PM 1-12-2009

[Canadian_dubber_4_life]

i quite like the bluesport.

[feels_road]

Quote, originally posted by curvedinfinity »

Car has said VW was shooting for 20k GBP. The R32 is 25k GBP in the UK, so 20k GBP translates to something like $25k.

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Yes, German magazines say the projected price point is that of the Miata/MX5.

[MKV.RABBIT]

Quote, originally posted by jamie@vwvortex »

I'm not really into convertibles but this one is pretty cool.

I hope VWOA continues to expand their diesel line up...

[CorradoMagic]

your Ghia is sooo hot. Now thats an idea.

[MeiK]

Quote, originally posted by feels_road »

If you read the press release, the concept comes with either the Diesel or the (twin-charged) 1.4TSI. Those, BTW, are the two engines most recent VWs have been released with, which indicates that this car is very close to production.

Both engines are gutless. I'd honestly take the TDI over the twincharged over-hyped under-powered gas engine.

With a platform like this - they are a 3.2L or 2.0T away from having a TRULY memorable sports car. Of course - they've got to ruin it somehow.

[Chico]

If VW actually builds this and brings it to the US, and if they offer it with a choice of the TDI or 2.0T with a manual transmission standard and DSG optional for both engines, I don't see how they wouldn't become the market leader in that segment. That's a very good looking roadster.

[XM_Rocks]

*yawn*

Call me when it goes into production... my luck it will be DSG only.

I am still waiting for this:

Modified by XM_Rocks at 9:54 AM 1-13-2009

[Uberjet]

I have been drooling over this car since 2003. Here's my take on it....

As far as I'm concerned, it sounds like a winning formula, although I would love it to have a 6-speed manual as well. Why is everyone so crazy for F1 paddles?

[littlejohnsVWheads]

it looks like a combination of a few different cars, but i like it a lot, and if they build it, you know it will sell like hot cakes!

not a fan of that gear shift area tho....

[NeoAtreides]

Quote, originally posted by DarkNight24 »

If they make it..... we will buy

That's funny, because we haven't though. I realize that VW has made a couple of missteps in bringing special cars to the US (R32), and in going from concept to reality(Concept R to EOS ), but overall, even when things are essentially delivered as promised, we don't buy. Case in point is the TDI Sportwagen. The Vortex has been going nuts over the new TDIs, with wagon and 4motion and even GLI trims being mentioned as desireable, and yet even the most basic model of the "most desireable car on Vortex" is getting sold two and three times before they finally go home. The reason is that people keep backing out of deals.

Americans not buying is the reason they keep watering things down for a more general audience. That's the reason the new Jetta will be somewhere between a Taurus and a Corolla. That's the reason they make the rabbit in only two flavors (every lot car is equipped one of two ways, depending on the number of doors). VW seems to be going out of its way to distance itself from the Vortex community of enthusiasts with its options lists, but if you take a good look at their sales-year to year-they are doing exactly the right thing. VW has suffered much less than Honda, Toyota, or the Big Three in the last two years.

You have a limited pool of qualified buyers maybe 30% of your walk ins at a dealership could get a down payment and do a lease or a no-strings loan, and another 10-15% of your walk ins can get a car with stips, but that leaves most of your "interested people" as unqualified to purchase the car they are interested in. You take a specialty vehicle demand, and then take into account the cross section of people who swear they will buy one and aren't qualified...and you have an easy business decision.

[NeoAtreides]

Quote, originally posted by curvedinfinity »

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/S...ooped/ Car has said VW was shooting for 20k GBP. The R32 is 25k GBP in the UK, so 20k GBP translates to something like $25k.

You can't figure it that way, costs taxes and tariffs are completely different, trim is different, shipping costs are different, I realize this is a parallel case, but the math doesn't work out.

This car might start around $32,000 in the US, but I would bet money on a $35000 trim, and a $42,000 trim, with about $1800 in available options for both. Within four years, good luck getting one below $40,000 (just like the TT)

[CorradoMagic]

I have heard that the dealers can get enough tdi sportwagens. Like the production isnt high enough? Sales reps have said that they have to sell what they have or can get. Your options are limited by supply.
People may want them, but they want them as they choose, not just what may or may not be available from the lot/next shipment.
"yes, for $28k we've got it in the blue you dont like w/ the ugly rims and sorry, no sunroof, still want it? its a tdi & your lucky enough to have it", "oh, its gonna be sticker too, cause thats all there is, someone else will take it"
- this sales/dealer metality makes buyer choose other models/gas that may be closer to their own spec list.

VW has already simplified the 'value option/packages' to the point where you either dont get what you want, or you pay extra for something you dont want thats 'bundled in'

Mini has the right idea. Give em options, even dealer options.

anyhow, This is nice. I like the coupe all around but think ka 6spd is necessary to compete in the class(or corner it as a cute 'girls car' like the EOS.

[John Y]

Quote, originally posted by NeoAtreides »

That's funny, because we haven't though. I realize that VW has made a couple of missteps in bringing special cars to the US (R32), and in going from concept to reality(Concept R to EOS ),

The Concept R did not become the Eos; the Eos was built off of the Concept C, and followed it pretty closely from concept to reality. As for the mark 5 R32 (I assume you are talking about that one) those who have them seem pretty happy with them on the whole - I am. If you are talking about sales, there are only about 150 or so left, out of 5000, so while the pace of sales hasn't been what the Mark 4's was, it has been OK. Certainly the reality hasn't been consistent with the popular misconception on the Vortex that they are somehow languishing on dealer lots - they are certainly scarce around here. Sales have actually been pretty good considering that we hadn't had any previous generations of 'R' to satisfy enthusiasts appetites when that first one arrived, something the mark 5 didn't benefit from. Perhaps more importantly, we weren't in a staggering economic crisis when the mark 4 arrived. Car sales across the board have been nosediving steadily since 2007, through 08.

[mr_e1974]

Quote, originally posted by jaegervw2 »

YES! Now, put that drive-line setup and front fenders and a fastback on the Scirocco and you'd have the perfect car :-P I love this as is though, now the big question as a;ways, will they build it, will it come here and when can I buy it, because I'm NOT buying a Routan!!!!!!!!!

I'm thread jacking and getting that out of the way right now...

What's up with this Scirocco? Is that a photoshop or a legit "car"? It looks pretty real. That's what the 'Rocco should have really looked like instead of some half-azzed Golf/GTI hack job with better styling.

OK...BACK OT-- This little BlueSport CONCEPT is just another VAG cack tease. IT WON'T SEE PRODUCTION and IF it does happen to see production IT WON'T BE SOLD IN N.A. Typical VAG tease...YET AGAIN.

[CorradoMagic]

above is a chop of a real Scirocco. Yes, I agree as do most, the chop is 10x better than production.
bit i'm no Chip Foose so production may have to do

OT- VW please dont dumb down the BlueSport. Expand the TDI Cup & start a new class

Luvin the Ghia drawings. totally sick and the 'right retro' for VW

[autoxdriver]

[QUOTE=boraIV333]I'll be the FIRST in line at my local VW dealership if and when VW starts to make INTERESTING cars again!!!!!

They LOST me right after discontinuing my Corrado.....the EOS is laughable and much classified as the "Chick car" replacement to the Beetle Convertible

I don't need an R32 that looks like my neighour's rabbit with a body kit and big wheels

VW of America.....PLEASE BRING THIS THING (HALO CAR) NOWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!
[QUOTE]

x2 Minus the Eos comment, I actually would like one with better wheels, tinted tails, a body kit and spoiler. a la highway 1 concept.

[xDADEx]

Quote, originally posted by mr_e1974 »

OK...BACK OT-- This little BlueSport CONCEPT is just another VAG cack tease. IT WON'T SEE PRODUCTION and IF it does happen to see production IT WON'T BE SOLD IN N.A. Typical VAG tease...YET AGAIN.

So true brother so true... all i have to say when this happens is damn it im moving to Europe where the KEWL cars are