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    Thread: To Dakar and Back

    1. Member G0to60's Avatar
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      06-05-2009 10:34 PM #101
      coming along very nicely. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      love the all the custom work.

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      06-05-2009 11:47 PM #102
      Soo in. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    3. 06-06-2009 12:43 AM #103
      May I come drive it? looks like a blast


    4. 06-07-2009 04:27 PM #105
      I've checked this thread twice....and no-where (in that car) did I see a place for me to sit ?
      Dieasel on

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      06-07-2009 04:32 PM #106
      look man, im coming up there with a few cases and you're going to show me how to weld... [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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      06-07-2009 04:36 PM #107
      Wow!!! In for an awesome build


    7. 06-07-2009 05:23 PM #109
      cool!

    8. 06-07-2009 09:16 PM #110
      I'm loving it, can't wait to see it all finished and hopefully some vids of it in action.

    9. 06-07-2009 09:36 PM #111
      Thanks for continuing to update, its like pirate 4x4 but with good pictures.

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      06-07-2009 09:44 PM #112
      Quote, originally posted by SteveMcqueen »
      Thanks for continuing to update, its like pirate 4x4 but with good pictures.

      and slightly less retarded
      stay in drugs, eat school, and don't do vegetables
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      06-07-2009 10:38 PM #113
      is that just a regular 7200 class chassis you are modifying for dakar usage instead of baja?
      you may also want to rethink your seats, unless that sparco is a suspension seat, even with the long travel imo you would want a suspension seat over a solid fiberglass unit.
      edit: just searched for the sparco pro 2000, your ass is going to take a beating in that even with all the suspension travel.


      Modified by norman at 8:40 PM 6-7-2009

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      06-07-2009 11:05 PM #114
      Quote, originally posted by norman »
      is that just a regular 7200 class chassis you are modifying for dakar usage instead of baja?
      you may also want to rethink your seats, unless that sparco is a suspension seat, even with the long travel imo you would want a suspension seat over a solid fiberglass unit.
      edit: just searched for the sparco pro 2000, your ass is going to take a beating in that even with all the suspension travel.

      Modified by norman at 8:40 PM 6-7-2009

      Find any FIA rated suspension seats
      Not sure what the sanctioning body requires for this build, but if it's FIA your SOL on suspension seats
      '08 LR3 HSE: The Daily/Off-Roader
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    13. 06-07-2009 11:43 PM #115
      I'll have to get the direct feed back on the suspension seats. From what I remember Lawrences view and experience with them, hes chosen the FIA seat still. He's had other people in the biz also suggest to him the FIA seat in his case. There will always be time to make a switch... Suspension seats are ceratinly allowed.
      edit .. refering to the sparco pro seat shown in the thread already.


      Modified by California Jay at 6:17 AM 6-8-2009

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      06-08-2009 08:39 AM #116
      Dammit you switched photo servers all this shiz is blocked for me at work
      in for later

    15. 06-08-2009 10:33 AM #117
      very cool!
      GLi : M3 : CX5
      OSD#2

    16. 06-08-2009 11:05 AM #118
      Heres some sreen shots of the upper IC support,... the lower one is much simpler again, and smaller, everyone will see it all go together.
      The mounting tabs had to be pushed out to the sides as much as possible, we want to be able to get the engine out easily.... or be able to change an engine configuration w/o cutting the available opening back and re-fabbing.
      The bar you see in the images is the parallel DOM tubing shared going to the shock tower




      And a 2-d waterjet drawing for the GM alternator mount, same position as before.





      Modified by California Jay at 8:35 AM 6-8-2009

    17. 06-09-2009 07:38 AM #119
      Quote, originally posted by norman »
      is that just a regular 7200 class chassis you are modifying for dakar usage instead of baja?
      you may also want to rethink your seats, unless that sparco is a suspension seat, even with the long travel imo you would want a suspension seat over a solid fiberglass unit.
      edit: just searched for the sparco pro 2000, your ass is going to take a beating in that even with all the suspension travel.

      Modified by norman at 8:40 PM 6-7-2009


      The truck is a smaller version of the 7200 that MM makes. If you were to compare the two, the 7200 is quite heavy compared to this, It's weight would certainly need a much larger displacement to make a worth while ride experience.
      Lawrence and I talked more about the seats... its mainly the rebound and bottoming out that is the concern with suspension seats. Hes seen guys get air lifted out of the dezert b/c of some suspension seats. Many noteable people Lawrence has talked to -previous dakar competitors, VW team included, still suggest the stationary seat.
      7200 truck vs this chassis in the thread, a pro runner. Sublte cosmetic differences but size and weight are the major things that set them a part. When complete, the weight difference will be minimum 1200lbs
      7200.

      Lawrence's PR

      more galleries at http://www.masonmotorsports.com/
      Modified by California Jay at 4:41 AM 6-9-2009


      Modified by California Jay at 4:43 AM 6-9-2009

    18. 06-09-2009 07:32 PM #120
      Today Lawrance got the telescoping drive shaft. Pat's, the local driveshaft shop was kind enough to give him a spare for the trip. They were pretty keen on getting the name on the truck for the Dakar.
      [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]



      Also got working on the exhaust/muffler hanger..not much, but its a start. I have a small floor bender for doing tuning like this accuately. I'll weld on some dowels/tabs for bolting to the muffler. The Magnaflow pieces I work with alot, should work well. This is a chambered 3" in 3"out offset. The tail out of the top will exit through the rear fiberglass body panel.



      Should finally have the alternator and IC mount pieces to show tomorrow


    19. 06-12-2009 07:52 AM #121
      Getting the CAD pieces in the other day helped move things a bit further to getting a rolling truck... getting into it I got absorbed into how big this venture/project is. This is going to be quite a test of any skill I've got.
      Last night I grabbed some pics of the items assembled to show here... Basically they all come in 2D then assemble as you go. I got mocking up the IC mount and alternator bracket first. The alternator bracket I built/aligned on another engine in progress in the shop.
      I just used the MIG to weld it up, turned out ok. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]




      The old alt bracket had adjustment to it and looked to sit a bit misaligned.. not needed since the diesel has its own belt tensioner.
      There were a few other small pieces I got waterjet that were used along the chassis, for one was a rad hose bulkhead/tab. I will have to add to it later to aid in hose protection from the driveline. This just makes everything more secure to the chassis.

      Lastly the IC mount- It worked out quite well. I still have a few reinforcements to add to it, but I couldn't ask for a better position. The only thing in the drawing I had to change was notching one side of the sheet metal to move the mount to the side for install/removal.
      I put some beefy dowels on the intercooler to hang it from, there will be more on the bottom for support later.






      Now I can finish IC piping and belts, then get back to the exhaust.
      The beauty of waterjet cutting is the simplicity and cost.. the alt bracket, chassis tabs and IC mount in materials after cutting were $160 total. Can't beat it.

    20. 06-12-2009 09:55 AM #122
      this is so cool
      GLi : M3 : CX5
      OSD#2

    21. 06-12-2009 12:27 PM #123
      Entry deadline for Dakar is in a month!!... gotta get a move on!!
      I'll get some more up shortly of the air box configuration and the ideas for the snorkle.

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      06-12-2009 12:30 PM #124
      thats not a whole lot of time to finish and get the bugs sorted out

    23. 06-12-2009 02:02 PM #125
      Quite a bit of time... entry deadline is a month.. but the Dakar rally is in January

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