i'd pop the distributor cap off and check for oil in the distributor. Most of my problems with 16v are the distributor and grounds. So i'd check there first.
Whats up VWvortex-ers! This is my first time using this site. When i got problems with my car i come here first. My car is an 89 golf gti 16v, (this is long and boring but details are a must) I work nights, got out of work at 7am, tried to start my car and it would not crank, turned the ignition to off position, tried it again, the car turned but took a little for it to start. Drove home everything was fine. Turned it off went to sleep, got up at 4pm to make a run to the store would not start. I have no spark!!!!! What next? I tried a new coil, new ignition module nothing happened? What else could it be? I would really appreciate the help. peace
My neighbors 2.0 16v has the same problem, apparently has changed all kinds of things. From what I read on here using the search function when trying to help him it can be lots of things from ignition switch, ignition control module (if you have one),hall sender (located in dizzy get a Bentley it tells how to troubleshoot the sender, it also might be on here use the SEARCH function, knock box, and I would assume the computer. He's replaced the ignition switch,swapped out the coil and the distributor, and probably some other stuff I can't think of off hand.
No spark at the coil, i did buy a new coil tried that and also a new ignition module and tried that and nothing, I did notice that a little spark at the time that i would open the ignition switch to crank my car but that's all. I really need to get me a Bentley manual, my car is a 16v. anymore ideas....... im gonna keep trying until i figure it out i hope its not my ecu.
I'm still thinking it's the distributor. just by what you replaced and what is happening. The hall sensor goes bad often on these even faster when there is oil in the distributor. sometimes cleaning the oil out isn't enough to fix it. I'll look at my bentley tonight, to see if their are any checks you can do. I forget off the top of my head.
almost the same thing happed to be(a very weak spark) i also tried new coil, distr. and plugs/wires. i found out it was a bad ground wire going from the battery to the coil(which would cause weak spark). try running a new ground wire from the battery to anywhere on the block of intake studs/bolts. good luck
thanks guys, I just doesnt make sense that it was Running great in the morning and then it just stopped. I dont have a bentley so ill use your guys advise. ill try that soon, again if anybody has any more ideas keep me posted, ill try to get pics of my car so you guys can see it, i crashed my car about 2 years on the driver side but before that it was a cherry car, i dont want give her up she is my baby. thanks again guys
try these two steps
1. remove secondary coil wire and attach it to ground. disconnect hall sender wire harness connector at distributor using a test light check for power between outer terminals of connector with ignition on test light should light up. if it doesnt check your harness for a open wire
2. if light came on. connect hall sender back on.pull boot of connector back to expose terminals. then test center terminal with a test light connected to positive while cranking, light should blink, if it doesnt replace ure hall sender,
hope this helps
i had this with my 16v mk2, i changed everything 4 new parts costin me a small fortune, all timin marks lined up and i was ready 2 commit suiside 9 months later really went to town on it, stripped it down found that the bottom crankshaft pulley had sheared the pin off and under load put the timing out, if i had taken the bung out the top of the gearbox and checked tdc i would of been on the road 9 months ago. you wouldnt think this little pin would ever rip off but apparently is common. when sorted it fired straight up and has covered 32k trouble free since, worth lookin at
To dansvanuk, your crank pulley broke or stripped off the crank? well that could be the case on mine, my pulley needs to be replaced. I did notice a piece missing when i did the head on my car 6 months ago. thanks ill take a look at it soon..... Ill keep you guys posted , thanks for the help, LONG LIVE VW!!!!!!!!!!!!
also check with another ignition module maybe , and one time i had same problem changed everything nothign worked car sat for 2 years , finaly found a wire got pulled inside to the boot where it conect at the ignition module somehow , i pulled it threw and pluged it back in place and got my spark back
I am having this problem now. I've tried just about everything here. I get a spark at the primary coil one time, when the ignition is turn to position 2. Ignition module is ok, coil is ok, wires(as far as I can tell are ok). My next move is replacing the distributor, since it is warranted.
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me too, except my problem has been ongoing. I have a 16v 2.0 in a rabbit gti and i had no spark for a while, randomly had a spark, then none after a water pump was replaced. my next task is to go through all of these suggestions and check my icm through this amazing link: http://www.race.nangreaves.com/golf/FU03/index.htm
give er a try
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I also went through a similar scenario with ignition issues that would intermittently kill the car while driving and then could restart after a couple minutes of sitting. I followed all the test procedures in the Bentley and discovered a bad knock sensor control unit (2 flashes with LED test). This is on a CIS-E 1.8 16v. Changed with one from junk yard and works fine now. I also changed the ignition control unit as a preventative measure since it was only 25 dollars. These cars a getting old and all the electronics are prone to fail at some point.