Ford Coil Pack on VR6 with Pics.

[ExtremeVR6]

ding ding ... except I knew the ford plug wires didn't look like they'd fit at all so I was expecting to need to basically make custom plug wires that had one end with the VW plug for the spark plug and the the other with the ford coil pack plug... which is why I was surprised when I saw that "they fit, but barely" ... what I saw there's no way 1 and 6 would ever reach, unless the coilpack was like on top of the manifold... heh... ya think 6 dents up through the hood would look bad?

[Nevaeh_Speed]

Try running the plug wires under the manifold, I haven't got to try this yet, but it should free up some room.

[zcalibur]

I've been looking at options.
I think i'm going to build new wires, custom length because i don't want to take a chance with a set.

http://www.autopartsway.com/au...40801

http://www.boostengineering.ne...r.htm

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TAY-35281/

If you don't like that wire, many other options.

http://www.summitracing.com/se...Wire/

If anyone finds any other options or better prices.
Post it and give us all the benefit please.

Modified by zcalibur at 10:07 AM 9-28-2009


Modified by zcalibur at 10:20 AM 9-28-2009

[Nevaeh_Speed]

Now that sounds like a good idea. A full custom wire set would runn about 100 bucks, not to shabby.

[silentdub]

Nice to know some people are growing some brains and tossing the VW coil pack in the trash.

This is my car:

I am running standard MSD wires and Standard Copper Plugs.
AWESOME!

[Grabbit]

Quote, originally posted by zcalibur »

I've been looking at options. I think i'm going to build new wires, custom length because i don't want to take a chance with a set. http://www.autopartsway.com/au...40801 http://www.boostengineering.ne...r.htm http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TAY-35281/ If you don't like that wire, many other options. http://www.summitracing.com/se...Wire/ If anyone finds any other options or better prices. Post it and give us all the benefit please. Modified by zcalibur at 10:07 AM 9-28-2009 Modified by zcalibur at 10:20 AM 9-28-2009

Let us know if you do this

[silentdub]

Quote, originally posted by Grabbit »

Let us know if you do this

I used the wires from a set of HEI for a small block chevy.

You can also buy the MSD Super Condictor and make your own.

There is also another alternative from fourseasonstuning, they make the wires for the coil setup that I have now.

There should be a whole thread on here by CUBIX some good info in there.

[ExtremeVR6]

ya'll take a look at the thread I just put up

[url=http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeropost?cmd=fshow&id=29]http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeropost?cmd=fshow&id=29[/img]

it illuminates a little on out ICM's and justifies some care be taken when handling the backplate and ICM

[oldskoolracer]

Quote, originally posted by Nevaeh_Speed »

Try running the plug wires under the manifold, I haven't got to try this yet, but it should free up some room.

Anyone know of a DIY for this. I havnt searched yet, but the subject did get brought up here be4 I asked...

[Nevaeh_Speed]

Quote, originally posted by ExtremeVR6 »

ya'll take a look at the thread I just put up [url=http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeropost?cmd=fshow&id=29]http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeropost?cmd=fshow&id=29[/img] it illuminates a little on out ICM's and justifies some care be taken when handling the backplate and ICM

Your linking skills suck, so I'll fix it for you...

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4587707

Quote, originally posted by oldskoolracer »

Anyone know of a DIY for this. I havnt searched yet, but the subject did get brought up here be4 I asked...

If you find one post up the link...

[ExtremeVR6]

thanks!

[Nevaeh_Speed]

I made a set of wires yesterday using bosch wires and ford ends. More than enough. I think the plug wires are to long.

[imdubbin]

Quote, originally posted by Eric D »

Congrats! As you know its been done before. http://www.gti-vr6.net/library..._pack/

Doesn't matter if it has been done before, it is a job well done. Clean and precise, and well thought out. Did you ask him if he took notes on the other one, or did you just assume he had no imagination of his own?

[ricardo]

Quote, originally posted by Nevaeh_Speed »

I made a set of wires yesterday using bosch wires and ford ends. More than enough. I think the plug wires are to long.

what wires did you use?

[UmbroVR6]

i just finished this mod!

car runs great, idle is smooth, seems stronger (might be placebo).

i spent $31 dollars, and thats because i bought warranty on the coil pack incase it was dead. all this at the local junkyard. came off a Ford Ranger. i couldn't say what year.

on to pictures...

and a picture of the patient:

all in all very easy mod, the hardest part was dremeling the old coilpack box so the ford unit can fit.

i took the wires from the ford and cut them at the end and spliced them to my wires, thats not electrical tape at the end its shrink tubing, when money allows, i'll get a nice set of bosch wires and purchase the edis ends from that boost place that sales them.

Modified by UmbroVR6 at 5:27 PM 10-7-2009

[Boost112]

how did you splice wire to wire... i have been eyeing this thread as well... i would like to see it in person at some point... looks good though....

[UmbroVR6]

i'll be at abt meet tomorrow.

you're welcome to come by and take a look.

[Boost112]

Quote, originally posted by UmbroVR6 »

i'll be at abt meet tomorrow. you're welcome to come by and take a look.

....cant, i have a test tomorrow... maybe next week...

[UmbroVR6]

Quote, originally posted by Boost112 »

....cant, i have a test tomorrow... maybe next week...

let me know, i don't go that often anymore. i'll see if i can make it.

[eurobred]

Quote, originally posted by Boost112 »

how did you splice wire to wire... i have been eyeing this thread as well... i would like to see it in person at some point... looks good though....

i also would like to know

[Nevaeh_Speed]

Cut the ford ends off, keep all six of them... cut the wires of your choice as far as possible towards the end. Take the ford end apart put it on the vw wires in reverse order... It was super easy... I should have did a small video of this....

Wires I used for his install was
Bosch wires from Performace Cafe, can be found at the local but cheaper here....

http://www.performance-cafe.co...d=945

I used the coil wire for dizzies for a test subject...


Modified by Nevaeh_Speed at 3:12 PM 10-8-2009

[Boost112]

have any of you guys tried using these msd wires for a 3.8l V6 ford mustang?

here is the link as well...

http://www.jegs.com/i/MSD/121/32289/10002/-1

would they be long enough? i would like to make my own wire with new ends... but i cant seem to find ford ends other than that one website... i was hoping i could get them from msd...



Modified by Boost112 at 10:09 AM 10-9-2009

[DubCurious69]

Those wires aren't long enough. Just go to the junkyard and pocket the wire ends and crimp them on. It's kind of a pain to uncrimp the ends just to crimp them on the VW wires but it's cheaper and just as effective.

[raymondlee]

hey i am going to try this again

armed with this

http://www.boostengineering.ne...s.pdf

[XMB]

Just finished this....all I can say is that the results are amazing.

This mod is simply too easy not to do and works like stock. Other than being a brand elitist fool you'd be crazy not to do this!

Big THANK YOU for this!

[fnvr6t]

can someone help me get a OE ford part number? i want it new and with a horizontal connector. where can i get the pigtail for this too, do they sell that seperately? did a little search online and there was a $9 difference on the accel coil depending on car.

[UmbroVR6]

Quote, originally posted by ChrisJohn »

Just finished this....all I can say is that the results are amazing. This mod is simply too easy not to do and works like stock. Other than being a brand elitist fool you'd be crazy not to do this! Big THANK YOU for this!

best part about it to me is that it looks stock, although the msd setup is amazingly pimp looking.

[Nevaeh_Speed]

Quote, originally posted by fnvr6t »

can someone help me get a OE ford part number? i want it new and with a horizontal connector. where can i get the pigtail for this too, do they sell that seperately? did a little search online and there was a $9 difference on the accel coil depending on car.

Here dude I guess I'll hook you up..

http://www.boostengineering.ne...l.htm

[raymondlee]

**** mine wont run right

i realy dont know what im doing wrong

[fnvr6t]

Quote, originally posted by Nevaeh_Speed »

Here dude I guess I'll hook you up.. http://www.boostengineering.ne...l.htm

thanks but i wanted it NEW

[raymondlee]

my wires keep arching really bad.

cat was glowing red. did i "f" my cat up. only did it once

[Nevaeh_Speed]

Quote, originally posted by fnvr6t »

thanks but i wanted it NEW

Vertical plug
F57U-12029-AA

Horizontal plug
F5SU-12029-AA

Happy

[raymondlee]

i am goign to get a video when nightfall hits.

is there anyway that i can buy the wires

[raymondlee]

i cant get this crimping thing down. i think i am going to have to go this route. wish i was a baller

http://www.034motorsport.com/p...d=800

pretty hefty fee.

[fnvr6t]

Quote, originally posted by Nevaeh_Speed »

Vertical plug F57U-12029-AA Horizontal plug F5SU-12029-AA Happy

yes! thank you