Ford Coil Pack on VR6 with Pics.

[ricardo]

Quote, originally posted by flotsam70 »

I see what u got for wires but some of the other threads show them exactly inline with vws icm

I just checked my car and its running like the picture I showed

I reread the whole thing.. it seems to work either way..

goodluck


Modified by ricardo at 7:52 PM 2-22-2010

[oldskoolracer]

Quote, originally posted by 16vbeatz »

this doesnt work for the mk4 ... 12v . i tryed to do mine today one wire is way too short .... so now i cant drive ma car until i buy a new set of wires

Yea one wire was too short on mine also. Thats a big reason I didnt put my plastic back over the coil pack... VERY tight stretch..

[16vbeatz]

i say again this doesnt work, it is all done in ma car and it wont start it looked like it might but NO , doesn't work for mk4 format !!! now i have to buy a whole new set and putt ma peice of sh*& coil back in

[16vbeatz]

so i have finally started ma car , i had to push on the gas , all the way , maybe i have the fire order messt up , idk but it runs like crap now so i will try and fix it , any ideas ?

[ricardo]

Quote, originally posted by 16vbeatz »

so i have finally started ma car , i had to push on the gas , all the way , maybe i have the fire order messt up , idk but it runs like crap now so i will try and fix it , any ideas ?

disconnect your battery wait 5 minutes then reconnect...

[16vbeatz]

if this works i am gonna be reallly mad really mad at everything lol but thanks man that might actually help now ithink of it lol

[16vbeatz]

well did not work , runs rough as rough can be , so thanks but this was a waste of time for me and a waste of money

[ricardo]

Quote, originally posted by 16vbeatz »

well did not work , runs rough as rough can be , so thanks but this was a waste of time for me and a waste of money

dont give up!

so I tried the the newer windstar coilpack and wired it like this

it would try to start but it woudn't, bucking and trashing.... I remove the battery terminal for 5 minutes and then tried it again...

no dice

I looked over the thing again and I tried one more time.. this time I turn the key to the last position before starting it.. I let it sit there for a couple of seconds and...

started up fine!!! now IM using the windstar coilpack even thought the wires on the original ford coilpack where opposite

[G60DUBS]

^^ that is mine, and I had no trouble what so ever, it fired right up and ran perfect the very first time, no prob's since either.

[bc2240]

Grabed my coil and connectors from a 2000 Tuarus. I used stock bosch wires and the ford connectors. Fires up first time and ran smooth. Im wired the same way as the OP. Highly recommend this one!

[VW uber alles]

I am trying this tommorow bump

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Close to 6 months running this mod and my GFs VR6 is still running strong.

Again big thanks.

[pete8d]

Just did the Ford coil pack mod. I used a Borg-Warner coil pack for a 2003 Mustang V6 and a pigtail from a Taurus in the Junk yard along with my Vw style plug wires from Techtronics.

If you use the newer coil pack doesn't require you to change the spark plug wire ends, then then you need the square looking pigtail which is Motorcraft WPT-508. This is $36 new at the stealership of a buck two at the salvage yard.

I wire it up like the newer set[up a few post back.

[pete8d]

Excuse my spelling and grammar in the last post!

[1337cshacker]

Seems popular to do, watch the local ford shops get hammered with phone calls from crazy dubbers. Good fun, nice mod. Hope your never Found On Road Dead with those..

[Standbackimapro]

ok lemme see if i understand all this, i have a mk4 jetta, it has a misfire so if it turns out being the coil im doing this mod,

so from my understanding, i can use pretty much any ford v6 coil( i plan on getting the one off that boost engineering site as well as the ford coil ends) or i can get a newer ford coil and use stock vw wires, then i just wire the coil pig tail wires from left to right starting with the 12v+ then the 3 wires for the coils?

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I'd like to see a picture of this newer coil pack.

[ricardo]

Quote, originally posted by ChrisJohn »

I'd like to see a picture of this newer coil pack.

FYI for some reason I misgapped the 3923 coppers to 0.046
so there you go, the newer (2001-2003) coilpack its pretty strong

[Standbackimapro]

u guys think this will work on the mkiv vr6? i figure it should, its basically the same

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Sorry I scrolled through too fast, didn't notice it.

[wav3form]

Does anyone have a 4 wire pigtail connector they don't need? The Motorcraft WPT-508 part?

[MarKist]

ok guys I went out a bought a salvage yard coil off 03 mustang with pigtail did it exactley like the diagram and it fire right up ! BUT the idle is rough and I drove it up the road and its like it has no power!!So I go buy a NEW coil pack for a 03 mustangand try again same thing!! I'm thinking its the plug wires are not right (going to the right terminial) so can you guys show me your plug wire seqence...PLEASE!!

[MarKist]

ok went through the plug wires while it was running and 1/6 are not firing WTF??? im confused

[VW uber alles]

Quote »

can you guys show me your plug wire seqence...PLEASE!!

It is the same as stock VR6 coilpack.
Look at the stock coilpack ,there will be numbers on it for each cylinder,do the wires the same way on the new coilpack and DONE.

Hope this helps.

[MarKist]

it looks like I need a ICM off a old coil pack anybody got one ??? i'm gonna get this NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES!!!!

[VW uber alles]

Did you had this 1/6 cylinder not firing before you did this mod?or it was just misfiring?
Also,did you solder the connections with the ICM to make sure you have a good connection?
You can also check for continuity with ohm meter between each wire on the connector and the ICM.You probably know this but the red wire is power supply and the three yellow wires are for the cylinders(each wire for two cylinders and one of them is exactly for 1/6 so I am saying maybe there is a bad connection at that wire).
Anyway ,somebody correct me if I am wrong so...
Good luck and hope this solves your issue,and if not you can always try another ICM.

Modified by VW uber alles at 3:07 PM 4-14-2010

[FourSeasonTuning.com]

I hope you don't mind me posting in here. Back in 2008 a similar GM/MSD thread was black holed three times for non advertisers trying to sell brackets without being an advertiser ( long story short, Good info was being lost each time the thread was holed).

Wire sets now available for Ford EDIS coils. 8MM with German spark plug end and clip type coil end.

Wire sets with and without removal tool.

8MM Wire set for EDIS coil $110 Shipped Ground

8MM Wire set for EDIS coil W/ Tool $130 Shipped Ground

[manfredwerner]

Quote, originally posted by MarKist »

ok guys I went out a bought a salvage yard coil off 03 mustang with pigtail did it exactley like the diagram and it fire right up ! BUT the idle is rough and I drove it up the road and its like it has no power!!So I go buy a NEW coil pack for a 03 mustangand try again same thing!! I'm thinking its the plug wires are not right (going to the right terminial) so can you guys show me your plug wire seqence...PLEASE!!

i did it his way, if you are looking at the pic of the coil on this page and are standing facing the engine, then the closest to you bank starting from the left for you 1 goes to the further coil towerof its upper row, then the 2 -nd plug goes to the middle coil tower of the upper row. the the same bank spurk plug closest to your right goes to the closest to you upper row coil tower.
for the opposite bank the one opposite to your number 1 goes to the furthest to it coil tower on the lower row of the coil pack, the middle plug of the further bank goes to the middle coil tower of the lower row of the coil pack and the last plug (on your right, furtest bank) goes to the closest to it coil tower on the lower row of the coil pack.

this order is not like in the bentley, i made this numbers myself.

engine
4 5 6

1 2 3

coil pack

1 6

2 5

3 4

front of the car

you

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I was wondering when you were going to come into this thread advertising the wires. for fourseasontuning!

[Standbackimapro]

Just wire the Coil pack to the ICM from left to right

The way i did mine so i could remember where the wires went was just to make up my own order

I just marked the wires with a sharpie

1 3 5

2 4 6

[kelchm]

really tempted to give this a try even though the coilpack on my car is fairly new.

Anyone have anyone seen any improvement from a coilpack that is still working perfectly fine?


Modified by kelchm at 8:45 PM 4-26-2010

[youlostme21]

So how big of a gap have you guys been able run? Im thinking of playing around but would like to have an idea.
thanks

[ricardo]

i went to .046

[youlostme21]

Hows it run? I went to .040 and I'm hoping for a few mpgs better. I still have a random stumble at idle I was hoping to cure. Thinkin i got dirty injectors cause I'm getting clean spark.

[abuthemagician]

Anyone have the Ford part number of the newer coilpack?