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    Thread: Ford Coil Pack on VR6 with Pics.

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      05-31-2011 08:06 PM #401
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      Thanks for the heads up.
      Gin try the DUI coil for the mustang. 45000k per spark. Should solve the blowout problem. 85.00 from summit

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      05-31-2011 09:02 PM #402
      Quote Originally Posted by Nitestalkerz View Post
      Gin try the DUI coil for the mustang. 45000k per spark. Should solve the blowout problem. 85.00 from summit
      Would have, but the one I got was 15 bucks and has made a very nice improvement. Maybe down the line.
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      06-01-2011 10:30 PM #403
      So, a bout a page back i was having some serious issues with miss fires. I traced the problem down to my ICM. I found a very tiny(needle point tiny) hole in the cover of the ICM. I popped off the cover and found some serious rust on some of the soldering points. I replaced my ICM and NOW it been running like a champ.
      ALSO, does anybody notice a whining noise coming from the motor when accelerating? (and no its not my GF) this is kinda worrying me a bit. Never had that noise b4 the upgrade.

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      06-02-2011 06:55 AM #404
      Have not noticed any noises at all related to the coil installation. Then again my car is loud and vibrates a lot so if there is a subtle additional noise it might be harder to detect.
      "OP sounds like a MKIV guy"

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      06-02-2011 07:30 PM #405
      Quote Originally Posted by Titan VR6 View Post
      So, a bout a page back i was having some serious issues with miss fires. I traced the problem down to my ICM. I found a very tiny(needle point tiny) hole in the cover of the ICM. I popped off the cover and found some serious rust on some of the soldering points. I replaced my ICM and NOW it been running like a champ.
      ALSO, does anybody notice a whining noise coming from the motor when accelerating? (and no its not my GF) this is kinda worrying me a bit. Never had that noise b4 the upgrade.
      The ford coil if you noticed when you pulled it off the donar car had a noise filter attach to it. Most everyone just yanks them off when removing the coil. Just go to a junkyard and find a ford with the coil, and ull see what I mean

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      06-02-2011 09:39 PM #406
      Quote Originally Posted by Nitestalkerz View Post
      The ford coil if you noticed when you pulled it off the donar car had a noise filter attach to it. Most everyone just yanks them off when removing the coil. Just go to a junkyard and find a ford with the coil, and ull see what I mean
      Oh really? I guess since I'm at the junk yard looking for my "noise filter" I might as well look for my blinker fluid tank and rotating splint.
      Nice try though, maybe it works on noobs. Ive been driving VW's since before you were born, and if you dont believe me just ask your mom....

    7. 06-02-2011 10:58 PM #407
      Quote Originally Posted by Titan VR6 View Post
      Oh really? I guess since I'm at the junk yard looking for my "noise filter" I might as well look for my blinker fluid tank and rotating splint.
      Nice try though, maybe it works on noobs. Ive been driving VW's since before you were born, and if you dont believe me just ask your mom....


      Well jokes on you bud, because he wasn't messing with you. There is infact a filter.

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      06-03-2011 06:57 AM #408
      Quote Originally Posted by V-dubbulyuh View Post


      Tested on 05-31-11
      OAT - 25 deg C
      Coil - 2003 Mustang
      Plug - NGK Bkr7e
      Gap - .035"
      Wires - Autotech Shock Therapy
      MPG - 26-27 @ 60-70 MPH (2200-2600 RPM)
      Max allowable boost - 7 psi
      Software - C2 630
      MAF - POS

      Will post up more data when I replace the MAF.

      So MAF was replaced with another one.
      All elements the same other than where noted, test repeated.

      Tested on 06-03-11
      OAT - 23 deg C
      Elevation - 24 ft MSL
      Max allowable boost - 12 psi


      Wow! 12 and sometimes 15 psi at a .035" gap, pretty impressive. 15 psi is doable but not very consistent (would not recommend this as you will foul your plugs and possibly take out your O2 sensor if you repeatedly do this), sometimes you get a bit of breakup (not leaning but incomplete combustion due to no spark) if you try pushing the boost this high. As expected the MAF replacement has also resulted in a quicker throttle response (does not stumble/blip when initially going into boost anymore).

      I am guessing .028-.030" is where I actually need to be for >20 psi. Will tighten the gap up and report back.
      "OP sounds like a MKIV guy"

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      06-03-2011 05:55 PM #409
      Thanks for sharing that info! I can't wait!
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      06-03-2011 06:32 PM #410
      Quote Originally Posted by Titan VR6 View Post
      Oh really? I guess since I'm at the junk yard looking for my "noise filter" I might as well look for my blinker fluid tank and rotating splint.
      Nice try though, maybe it works on noobs. Ive been driving VW's since before you were born, and if you dont believe me just ask your mom....
      I really hope you are joking????? Most Fords come with a noise filter on there coil setup so you dont hear the engine whine through the speakers. Its attached to the coil on the same bolt to hold it down. Now, while my ford conversion works and I dont hear my fkin engine in my speakers....maybye you should go relook. Dont know about blinker fluid but cant figure out what termanal my "Mr Fusion" hooks up to
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      06-03-2011 06:36 PM #411
      Quote Originally Posted by V-dubbulyuh View Post
      So MAF was replaced with another one.
      All elements the same other than where noted, test repeated.

      Tested on 06-03-11
      OAT - 23 deg C
      Elevation - 24 ft MSL
      Max allowable boost - 12 psi


      Wow! 12 and sometimes 15 psi at a .035" gap, pretty impressive. 15 psi is doable but not very consistent (would not recommend this as you will foul your plugs and possibly take out your O2 sensor if you repeatedly do this), sometimes you get a bit of breakup (not leaning but incomplete combustion due to no spark) if you try pushing the boost this high. As expected the MAF replacement has also resulted in a quicker throttle response (does not stumble/blip when initially going into boost anymore).

      I am guessing .028-.030" is where I actually need to be for >20 psi. Will tighten the gap up and report back.
      Dub, if you were closer id let u hook up my DUI to see what u get. Start with w/ .028 id guess

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      06-03-2011 07:35 PM #412
      Quote Originally Posted by Nitestalkerz View Post
      Dub, if you were closer id let u hook up my DUI to see what u get. Start with w/ .028 id guess
      Tell ya what... I'm kinda curious to try it also.
      "OP sounds like a MKIV guy"

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      06-03-2011 10:55 PM #413
      Preliminary runs at 20 psi and .030" look really good.

      Idle appears to be a bit more lumpy (compared to .035) but who cares, in boost it's great with strong acceleration and consistent spark.
      "OP sounds like a MKIV guy"

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      06-04-2011 01:30 AM #414
      Quote Originally Posted by Titan VR6 View Post
      Oh really? I guess since I'm at the junk yard looking for my "noise filter" I might as well look for my blinker fluid tank and rotating splint.
      Nice try though, maybe it works on noobs. Ive been driving VW's since before you were born, and if you dont believe me just ask your mom....
      wow, stop being a stupid dick.
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      06-04-2011 04:19 PM #415
      Quote Originally Posted by V-dubbulyuh View Post
      Preliminary runs at 20 psi and .030" look really good.

      Idle appears to be a bit more lumpy (compared to .035) but who cares, in boost it's great with strong acceleration and consistent spark.
      What tool u useing to gap? Try using the gap tool that looks like a bunch of metal tabs to dial in between .030 and .035 instead of a sprk plug gapper. Insteal of going by incraments of 1, think they go by 1/4's Its the tool used on v8's for the lifter gapping.

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      06-04-2011 05:25 PM #416
      I use a modified pair of needle nose pliers and feeler gauges. I now run BKR8EIX plugs, so I don't want to break the electrode off.
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      06-04-2011 07:31 PM #417
      Quote Originally Posted by GinsterMan98 View Post
      I now run BKR8EIX plugs.
      What is your opinion on them? Specifically comparing them to the Bkr7e plugs? I am open to experimenting with other plugs too. Actually I have been looking for an alternative plug.
      "OP sounds like a MKIV guy"

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      06-04-2011 07:35 PM #418
      Quote Originally Posted by Nitestalkerz View Post
      What tool u useing to gap? Try using the gap tool that looks like a bunch of metal tabs to dial in between .030 and .035 instead of a sprk plug gapper. Insteal of going by incraments of 1, think they go by 1/4's Its the tool used on v8's for the lifter gapping.
      Agreed I can get a finer resolution if I use feeler gauges etc. I've just been trying to get in the general ballpark of where the car is happy though. Now I know .030" is in the range of where I need to be I can start opening/closing using something more precise like you suggested. Thanks for the tip.
      "OP sounds like a MKIV guy"

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      06-04-2011 08:33 PM #419
      Quote Originally Posted by V-dubbulyuh View Post
      What is your opinion on them? Specifically comparing them to the Bkr7e plugs? I am open to experimenting with other plugs too. Actually I have been looking for an alternative plug.
      They seem to not foul as easy as the 7E's, they cost much more, but they did fine in my car @ 12psi gapped at .028 vs the 7E's blowing spark out at anything over .022 on my car. I am happy with them.
      Oh and I am going to run them on my new setup also.
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      06-05-2011 12:17 AM #420
      Once we get the exact specs for this set up...........I wonder if we can somehow convert the 1.8T's to a Ford 4pack coil. I wonder

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      06-05-2011 12:38 AM #421
      Maybe, You could grab one of the coils off a late model ford v-8. They have a similar coils only split into two separate coils of four.
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      06-05-2011 03:53 AM #422
      Quote Originally Posted by Nitestalkerz View Post
      Once we get the exact specs for this set up...........I wonder if we can somehow convert the 1.8T's to a Ford 4pack coil. I wonder
      Like Ginster is suggesting I know I've seen the 4pack coils. The 1.8T guys are already running coil-on-plug (independent coils) though so I don't know how interested they would be in going to a single coil pack.
      "OP sounds like a MKIV guy"

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      06-05-2011 10:21 AM #423
      Yea my 1.8T uses the Hatachi bolt down style from the late 90's. When VW switch to the ginaric style, they had so many problems with them. Wasnt til a few years back they turned it into a recall. I know Ive seen a single coilpack setup before w/ plug wires, but dont remember where




      Also if anyones having a problem running tight wires off there conversion, just remove plastic from the wire channels near the plug holes. Theres @ least 1/2 of play there, and will look stock

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      06-08-2011 06:13 PM #424
      Much apologies, I guess i dont know **** about fords.
      anyway, i am not getting the noise through the speakers, its an actual whining noise coming from the motor.

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      06-08-2011 07:53 PM #425
      So I thought I had a bad coilpack turned out to be something really stupid...I didn't think my first tank after my VR swap would return 11mpg but then again I've been driving the crap out of the car and shifting around 6600rpm Anyways onto the question, I bought a ford coilpack and was going to do the mod and put it on my car. I've read that with the ford coilpack it helps the engine run a little smoother and my coilpack has about 160k miles on it. So should I just keep the OEM one and wait till it craps the bed or since I have everything put the ford one in?
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