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    Thread: GTI vs. TSX?

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      02-11-2009 03:16 PM #1
      This is not a thread about a race but I currently have a MKV GTI and wonder what your thoughts are on the new TSX. My lease is up in a month and am considering a new vehicle. This being one of them.
      Thanks

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      02-11-2009 03:22 PM #2
      Ducky 2.0T had the last generation tsx and he got rid of it for the GTI, maybe he can chime in. Btw i think the NEW ones are ugly

    3. 02-11-2009 03:24 PM #3
      Not a bad car ive driven both,, id say the GTI is more of a performance vehicle. And IMO German > Japanese
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      02-11-2009 03:27 PM #4
      have you ever driven the TSX? since the engine on the new ugly TSX is basically the same, I drove one and the engine will definitely disappoint you with it's lack of torque compared to the GTI.
      the manual shifter is awesome though
      that's a tough one... what else could you get though, i mean it would be kinda weird to get another GTI... you lookin to do another lease? where do u need your payment to be?
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      02-11-2009 03:30 PM #5
      I am looking to lease again. I want the payments to be $350 to $400 with less then $2,000 down. I got quoted on a new TSX and IS250AWD at 15k miles and 12k miles, respectively, for $350/month with $1500 due at signing. The Lexus had nav/xenons/and the premium package. The Acura was base, with no nav.
      I thought both were good deals considering I got quoted $469 for a CC Sport w/ Auto. From the dealer I got my car from.

    6. 02-11-2009 03:32 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by 06TornadoGTIPete »
      I am looking to lease again. I want the payments to be $350 to $400 with less then $2,000 down. I got quoted on a new TSX and IS250AWD at 15k miles and 12k miles, respectively, for $350/month with $1500 due at signing. The Lexus had nav/xenons/and the premium package. The Acura was base, with no nav.
      I thought both were good deals considering I got quoted $469 for a CC Sport w/ Auto. From the dealer I got my car from.

      You sound like someone who doesn't understand the nuts and bolts of leasing.

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      02-11-2009 03:35 PM #7
      Sorry to go OT but I leased a car once... after I gave it back I realized I paid $475 a month for 39 months a total of $18,135 for the pleasure of "renting" someone elses (the banks) car.
      With the way the used market is you can buy a 1-2 year old anything for pretty cheap. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      02-11-2009 03:35 PM #8
      I have a pretty good understanding. It is all up to residual values and money factors. This aside, the Lexus has a $36,000 sticker and the TSX is at $31,000. All 3 cars have essentially the same residual values and that just leaves the money factor. That has to be the difference.
      I don't know why?

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      02-11-2009 03:36 PM #9
      id get the lexus then

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      02-11-2009 03:38 PM #10
      I was looking at either 07 or 08 A4's. I really want an A4. Those I could get for around $22k to $25k for a 2.0T Q, Auto.
      To be honest I would much rather buy but can't afford to purchase a car that is nicer than the one I have leased (GTI). I may end up just purchasing the GTI at the end of the lease. It is worth more than I owe on it and it would be nice to be in the green. Then, when I can afford to PURCHASE an A4, I can.
      That is likey the route I will be going.

    11. 02-11-2009 03:49 PM #11
      ....the GTI is a sporty little car that flings around nicely.
      The TSX is rebadged European Accord - a mid size family sedan
      The Lexus is a entry level luxury sedan
      The CC is a larger sports sedan
      Decide what you want and then figure out how to get it. If you're looking at a mid size family luxo liner then look at a CTS - 0% for 60 months and killer pricing to boot...

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      02-11-2009 03:51 PM #12
      I understand but I dont want RWD and I dont want American. Back on topic. What the thoughts of the TSX?
      Anyone with some behind the wheel time would be very helpful.
      They are a bit slow but then again, my GTI is a bit fast.

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      02-11-2009 04:00 PM #13
      If you get a TSX, I wouldn't bother with the automatic - it's a slug.

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      02-11-2009 04:02 PM #14
      enjoy your fancy accord.
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      02-11-2009 04:02 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by 06TornadoGTIPete »
      I understand but I dont want RWD and I dont want American. Back on topic. What the thoughts of the TSX?
      Anyone with some behind the wheel time would be very helpful.
      They are a bit slow but then again, my GTI is a bit fast.

      We were seriously considering one of the last generation TSXs for my wife, but were disspointed every time we test drove one. Granted they were used, but go look at a 2 year old TSX. They age terribly and there is nothing exiting about the drive or the interior.
      The jetta (even the 2.5) dominated it in just about every way. I would have really regretted getting a TSX. The new TSXs are one of the worst looking cars of all time, so I question your judgment for even considering them.

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      02-11-2009 04:04 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by alf_ftw »
      enjoy your fancy accord.

      You're not wrong but...
      Enjoy your fancy Golf/Jetta?

    17. 02-11-2009 04:05 PM #17
      raced a 2006 TSX with my old 2003 BMW 325i 184hp and won...
      Lexus IS250's are just plain slow, even on their web site they say 0-60 is like 8.2secs
      AND LEASING CARS IS A TOTAL RIP OFF, I CAN'T SEE WHY ANYONE WOULD DO IT!
      EITHER PAY OFF THE GTI AFTER THE LEASE IS UP, OR BUY A USED CAR


      Modified by My Fast GTI at 4:08 PM 2-11-2009

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      02-11-2009 04:29 PM #18
      leasing and car buying advise from a 16 year old????
      to the op, imo doesnt seem like they changed enough on the TSX other then the ugly nose and a refresh on the interior... IS250 is a nice car if you are looking for something different... really depends on your preference...

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      02-11-2009 04:33 PM #19
      I still want something that is fast. I drove the last gen TSX and wasn't that impressed with it. I am not the biggest fan of the new one but it is growing on me. I like the interior, short of all the plastic. I think the hardest thing would be the power, or lack there of.
      I'm not sure what else I would buy at the $30,000 price point.
      Any ideas?
      This is what I am looking for.
      4-doors
      Leather
      Climate Control
      Xenons
      Sub 15 sec 1/4
      Heated, power seats
      Pretty much a GLI, but since I have a GTI it wouldnt be much different. Doesn't seem worth it.



      Modified by 06TornadoGTIPete at 1:35 PM 2-11-2009

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      02-11-2009 04:36 PM #20
      Have you considered getting a nice certified pre-owned car? Actually buying something.

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      02-11-2009 04:38 PM #21
      calm down bucko, its not always... depends on circumstances
      Quote, originally posted by My Fast GTI »
      AND LEASING CARS IS A TOTAL RIP OFF, I CAN'T SEE WHY ANYONE WOULD DO IT!

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      02-11-2009 04:39 PM #22
      you can get a low mile certified pre-owned 2008 cts DI V6 with 304 hp, 6 spd auto, nav, hd, bose, basically loaded for very low 30's right now... I would be driving one right now but I love the GTI and the VW scene and I am waiting 3 years for a 2009 CTS-V to come off lease or from auction and it WILL be mine

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      02-11-2009 04:40 PM #23
      I have, an A4 would be nice but there is something about a new car to me. I don't know that I could spend $20k + on a USED car. Just the word bothers me. I understand the pros and cons of it but...thats just me.
      My car is used and I already have it. Why go buy another used car when I already have one.
      Thas the way I see it.
      I found some good deals though, no question.

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      02-11-2009 04:43 PM #24
      Sorry, Im not against the CTS, although the back seat is virtually non-existing. (Auto show experience). I am not looking to buy an American car. This is my first VAG car and it won't be my last. I want an A4 Premium Plus w/ 18" sports pack. I could probably swing it now but choose not to b/c i am in the market for a house. The wife wants a house more than an Audi and for good reason.
      Maybe in a year I will be in a postion to buy my NEW Audi.

    25. 02-11-2009 04:44 PM #25
      ...and was quite underwhelmed.
      The torque steer was quite evident. Interior fit and finish wasn't up to VW standards. The rear seat was smaller (easier to get into as my R is a two door, but once in, the R32 is much roomier) and not as comfy.
      It seemed very gutless when merging (it was an auto) but a bit better riding. The suspension was pretty sloppy compared to the R32 - even if I didn't flog it.
      I hated the myriad of buttons on the center console.
      Anyway you slice it though - it is a nice car - but a letdown coming from VW/Audi.
      As a plus, it'll be more reliable and the average Acura dealer is much better than the average VW dealer - loaners are standard...

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