Username or Email Address
Do you already have an account?
Forgot your password?
  • Log in or Sign up

    VWVortex


    Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
    Results 1 to 35 of 110

    Thread: GTI vs. TSX?

    1. Banned 06TornadoGTIPete's Avatar
      Join Date
      Aug 15th, 2006
      Location
      Plymouth, MI
      Posts
      4,099
      Vehicles
      2010 MKVI GTI & 2010 CC Sport DSG
      02-11-2009 03:16 PM #1
      This is not a thread about a race but I currently have a MKV GTI and wonder what your thoughts are on the new TSX. My lease is up in a month and am considering a new vehicle. This being one of them.

      Thanks


    2. Geriatric Member absoluteczech's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 12th, 2006
      Location
      Newport Coast, CA
      Posts
      35,710
      Vehicles
      2013 VW GTI 2DR DBM
      02-11-2009 03:22 PM #2
      Ducky 2.0T had the last generation tsx and he got rid of it for the GTI, maybe he can chime in. Btw i think the NEW ones are ugly

    3. 02-11-2009 03:24 PM #3
      Not a bad car ive driven both,, id say the GTI is more of a performance vehicle. And IMO German > Japanese
      DUB'N IN THE DOT

    4. Member TheGermanExperience's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 11th, 2002
      Location
      North Jersey
      Posts
      955
      Vehicles
      2008 T-red GTI manual
      02-11-2009 03:27 PM #4
      have you ever driven the TSX? since the engine on the new ugly TSX is basically the same, I drove one and the engine will definitely disappoint you with it's lack of torque compared to the GTI.

      the manual shifter is awesome though

      that's a tough one... what else could you get though, i mean it would be kinda weird to get another GTI... you lookin to do another lease? where do u need your payment to be?

      Past cars - 94 T-red Jetta GLX VR6 W.Ed. manual, 05 T-red GTI 1.8T manual
      Family - 07 Jetta 2.5S manual, 07 Passat 2.0T Manual, 09 Tiguan S

    5. Banned 06TornadoGTIPete's Avatar
      Join Date
      Aug 15th, 2006
      Location
      Plymouth, MI
      Posts
      4,099
      Vehicles
      2010 MKVI GTI & 2010 CC Sport DSG
      02-11-2009 03:30 PM #5
      I am looking to lease again. I want the payments to be $350 to $400 with less then $2,000 down. I got quoted on a new TSX and IS250AWD at 15k miles and 12k miles, respectively, for $350/month with $1500 due at signing. The Lexus had nav/xenons/and the premium package. The Acura was base, with no nav.

      I thought both were good deals considering I got quoted $469 for a CC Sport w/ Auto. From the dealer I got my car from.


    6. 02-11-2009 03:32 PM #6
      Quote, originally posted by 06TornadoGTIPete »
      I am looking to lease again. I want the payments to be $350 to $400 with less then $2,000 down. I got quoted on a new TSX and IS250AWD at 15k miles and 12k miles, respectively, for $350/month with $1500 due at signing. The Lexus had nav/xenons/and the premium package. The Acura was base, with no nav.

      I thought both were good deals considering I got quoted $469 for a CC Sport w/ Auto. From the dealer I got my car from.

      You sound like someone who doesn't understand the nuts and bolts of leasing.


    7. Member XM_Rocks's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jan 29th, 2005
      Location
      Austin, TX
      Posts
      8,798
      Vehicles
      E90 335i and MK6 Golf
      02-11-2009 03:35 PM #7
      Sorry to go OT but I leased a car once... after I gave it back I realized I paid $475 a month for 39 months a total of $18,135 for the pleasure of "renting" someone elses (the banks) car.

      With the way the used market is you can buy a 1-2 year old anything for pretty cheap.


    8. Banned 06TornadoGTIPete's Avatar
      Join Date
      Aug 15th, 2006
      Location
      Plymouth, MI
      Posts
      4,099
      Vehicles
      2010 MKVI GTI & 2010 CC Sport DSG
      02-11-2009 03:35 PM #8
      I have a pretty good understanding. It is all up to residual values and money factors. This aside, the Lexus has a $36,000 sticker and the TSX is at $31,000. All 3 cars have essentially the same residual values and that just leaves the money factor. That has to be the difference.

      I don't know why?


    9. Geriatric Member absoluteczech's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 12th, 2006
      Location
      Newport Coast, CA
      Posts
      35,710
      Vehicles
      2013 VW GTI 2DR DBM
      02-11-2009 03:36 PM #9
      id get the lexus then

    10. Banned 06TornadoGTIPete's Avatar
      Join Date
      Aug 15th, 2006
      Location
      Plymouth, MI
      Posts
      4,099
      Vehicles
      2010 MKVI GTI & 2010 CC Sport DSG
      02-11-2009 03:38 PM #10
      I was looking at either 07 or 08 A4's. I really want an A4. Those I could get for around $22k to $25k for a 2.0T Q, Auto.

      To be honest I would much rather buy but can't afford to purchase a car that is nicer than the one I have leased (GTI). I may end up just purchasing the GTI at the end of the lease. It is worth more than I owe on it and it would be nice to be in the green. Then, when I can afford to PURCHASE an A4, I can.

      That is likey the route I will be going.


    11. 02-11-2009 03:49 PM #11
      ....the GTI is a sporty little car that flings around nicely.

      The TSX is rebadged European Accord - a mid size family sedan
      The Lexus is a entry level luxury sedan
      The CC is a larger sports sedan

      Decide what you want and then figure out how to get it. If you're looking at a mid size family luxo liner then look at a CTS - 0% for 60 months and killer pricing to boot...


    12. Banned 06TornadoGTIPete's Avatar
      Join Date
      Aug 15th, 2006
      Location
      Plymouth, MI
      Posts
      4,099
      Vehicles
      2010 MKVI GTI & 2010 CC Sport DSG
      02-11-2009 03:51 PM #12
      I understand but I dont want RWD and I dont want American. Back on topic. What the thoughts of the TSX?

      Anyone with some behind the wheel time would be very helpful.
      They are a bit slow but then again, my GTI is a bit fast.


    13. Member silverA4quattro's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 21st, 2004
      Location
      Conshohocken, PA
      Posts
      12,618
      Vehicles
      '10 Jetta TDI, '13 Cruze Eco
      02-11-2009 04:00 PM #13
      If you get a TSX, I wouldn't bother with the automatic - it's a slug.

    14. Member
      Join Date
      Jan 2nd, 2007
      Location
      Houston, TX
      Posts
      921
      Vehicles
      2013 R
      02-11-2009 04:02 PM #14
      enjoy your fancy accord.
      IG: @fcknalf

    15. Member motocaddy's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 11th, 2007
      Location
      Houston, TX
      Posts
      2,100
      Vehicles
      05.5 VW Jetta 2.5, BMW E36 Vert
      02-11-2009 04:02 PM #15
      Quote, originally posted by 06TornadoGTIPete »
      I understand but I dont want RWD and I dont want American. Back on topic. What the thoughts of the TSX?

      Anyone with some behind the wheel time would be very helpful.
      They are a bit slow but then again, my GTI is a bit fast.


      We were seriously considering one of the last generation TSXs for my wife, but were disspointed every time we test drove one. Granted they were used, but go look at a 2 year old TSX. They age terribly and there is nothing exiting about the drive or the interior.
      The jetta (even the 2.5) dominated it in just about every way. I would have really regretted getting a TSX. The new TSXs are one of the worst looking cars of all time, so I question your judgment for even considering them.

    16. Member silverA4quattro's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 21st, 2004
      Location
      Conshohocken, PA
      Posts
      12,618
      Vehicles
      '10 Jetta TDI, '13 Cruze Eco
      02-11-2009 04:04 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by alf_ftw »
      enjoy your fancy accord.

      You're not wrong but...

      Enjoy your fancy Golf/Jetta?


    17. 02-11-2009 04:05 PM #17
      raced a 2006 TSX with my old 2003 BMW 325i 184hp and won...
      Lexus IS250's are just plain slow, even on their web site they say 0-60 is like 8.2secs

      AND LEASING CARS IS A TOTAL RIP OFF, I CAN'T SEE WHY ANYONE WOULD DO IT!

      EITHER PAY OFF THE GTI AFTER THE LEASE IS UP, OR BUY A USED CAR


      Modified by My Fast GTI at 4:08 PM 2-11-2009


    18. Member Nvr2Fst's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 17th, 2006
      Location
      Downers Grove IL
      Posts
      2,717
      Vehicles
      2013 CC Sport
      02-11-2009 04:29 PM #18
      leasing and car buying advise from a 16 year old????

      to the op, imo doesnt seem like they changed enough on the TSX other then the ugly nose and a refresh on the interior... IS250 is a nice car if you are looking for something different... really depends on your preference...


    19. Banned 06TornadoGTIPete's Avatar
      Join Date
      Aug 15th, 2006
      Location
      Plymouth, MI
      Posts
      4,099
      Vehicles
      2010 MKVI GTI & 2010 CC Sport DSG
      02-11-2009 04:33 PM #19
      I still want something that is fast. I drove the last gen TSX and wasn't that impressed with it. I am not the biggest fan of the new one but it is growing on me. I like the interior, short of all the plastic. I think the hardest thing would be the power, or lack there of.

      I'm not sure what else I would buy at the $30,000 price point.

      Any ideas?

      This is what I am looking for.

      4-doors
      Leather
      Climate Control
      Xenons
      Sub 15 sec 1/4
      Heated, power seats

      Pretty much a GLI, but since I have a GTI it wouldnt be much different. Doesn't seem worth it.



      Modified by 06TornadoGTIPete at 1:35 PM 2-11-2009


    20. Member silverA4quattro's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 21st, 2004
      Location
      Conshohocken, PA
      Posts
      12,618
      Vehicles
      '10 Jetta TDI, '13 Cruze Eco
      02-11-2009 04:36 PM #20
      Have you considered getting a nice certified pre-owned car? Actually buying something.

    21. Geriatric Member absoluteczech's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 12th, 2006
      Location
      Newport Coast, CA
      Posts
      35,710
      Vehicles
      2013 VW GTI 2DR DBM
      02-11-2009 04:38 PM #21
      calm down bucko, its not always... depends on circumstances

      Quote, originally posted by My Fast GTI »

      AND LEASING CARS IS A TOTAL RIP OFF, I CAN'T SEE WHY ANYONE WOULD DO IT!



    22. Member Nvr2Fst's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 17th, 2006
      Location
      Downers Grove IL
      Posts
      2,717
      Vehicles
      2013 CC Sport
      02-11-2009 04:39 PM #22
      you can get a low mile certified pre-owned 2008 cts DI V6 with 304 hp, 6 spd auto, nav, hd, bose, basically loaded for very low 30's right now... I would be driving one right now but I love the GTI and the VW scene and I am waiting 3 years for a 2009 CTS-V to come off lease or from auction and it WILL be mine

    23. Banned 06TornadoGTIPete's Avatar
      Join Date
      Aug 15th, 2006
      Location
      Plymouth, MI
      Posts
      4,099
      Vehicles
      2010 MKVI GTI & 2010 CC Sport DSG
      02-11-2009 04:40 PM #23
      I have, an A4 would be nice but there is something about a new car to me. I don't know that I could spend $20k + on a USED car. Just the word bothers me. I understand the pros and cons of it but...thats just me.

      My car is used and I already have it. Why go buy another used car when I already have one.

      Thas the way I see it.

      I found some good deals though, no question.


    24. Banned 06TornadoGTIPete's Avatar
      Join Date
      Aug 15th, 2006
      Location
      Plymouth, MI
      Posts
      4,099
      Vehicles
      2010 MKVI GTI & 2010 CC Sport DSG
      02-11-2009 04:43 PM #24
      Sorry, Im not against the CTS, although the back seat is virtually non-existing. (Auto show experience). I am not looking to buy an American car. This is my first VAG car and it won't be my last. I want an A4 Premium Plus w/ 18" sports pack. I could probably swing it now but choose not to b/c i am in the market for a house. The wife wants a house more than an Audi and for good reason.

      Maybe in a year I will be in a postion to buy my NEW Audi.


    25. 02-11-2009 04:44 PM #25
      ...and was quite underwhelmed.

      The torque steer was quite evident. Interior fit and finish wasn't up to VW standards. The rear seat was smaller (easier to get into as my R is a two door, but once in, the R32 is much roomier) and not as comfy.

      It seemed very gutless when merging (it was an auto) but a bit better riding. The suspension was pretty sloppy compared to the R32 - even if I didn't flog it.

      I hated the myriad of buttons on the center console.

      Anyway you slice it though - it is a nice car - but a letdown coming from VW/Audi.

      As a plus, it'll be more reliable and the average Acura dealer is much better than the average VW dealer - loaners are standard...


    26. Banned 06TornadoGTIPete's Avatar
      Join Date
      Aug 15th, 2006
      Location
      Plymouth, MI
      Posts
      4,099
      Vehicles
      2010 MKVI GTI & 2010 CC Sport DSG
      02-11-2009 04:52 PM #26
      I agree with everything you just said. I was on an Acura forum earlier today trying to see what they thought of their cars and they wouldnt even talk to me. I told them I had a VW GTI and was looking at TSX's and they didnt take it too well. One even called me a "rice er" and I responded by saying. "Yes I am a german "rice er", that coming from a guy who drives a honda." They weren't happy.

      They were posting about their 7.5 second 0-60's and how reliable and non desript their cars were. How they like that they don't draw attention. They are a "good value"
      I said "So is Wal-Mart" hahah

      If that is the type of people that drive Acuras, then I dont really want one.
      I love the VW crowd and the rep that we have. No ricers here. People still stop me to look at my car. i show off my wheels (Hufs), my self-leveling xenons, my headlight washers (early model) and my DSG. They ask the price and are floored.
      I couldnt get that reaction in a TSX.

      Sounds like I just made up my own mind. Keep the GTI, as I love it, and save up for an A4 in a year of so.

      Thanks guys...



      Modified by 06TornadoGTIPete at 1:57 PM 2-11-2009


    27. Member Nvr2Fst's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 17th, 2006
      Location
      Downers Grove IL
      Posts
      2,717
      Vehicles
      2013 CC Sport
      02-11-2009 05:03 PM #27
      no worries, just thought I would throw some options out for you... Although I want the new V bad if a newer S4 happens my way or 300hp or more finds its way into the next gen GTI/R model I will be all over it..

    28. Member silverA4quattro's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 21st, 2004
      Location
      Conshohocken, PA
      Posts
      12,618
      Vehicles
      '10 Jetta TDI, '13 Cruze Eco
      02-11-2009 05:06 PM #28
      Quote, originally posted by 06TornadoGTIPete »
      I have, an A4 would be nice but there is something about a new car to me. I don't know that I could spend $20k + on a USED car. Just the word bothers me. I understand the pros and cons of it but...thats just me.

      My car is used and I already have it. Why go buy another used car when I already have one.

      Thas the way I see it.

      I found some good deals though, no question.

      So instead you'd piss away money on depreciation? Trust me, I know the appeal of buying new (I bought mine new), but if you don't intent on keeping it for a LONG time it's a horrible "investment". Let someone else take the hit. And with good CPO warranties, you can get a longer than new warranty sometimes. No-brainer if you ask me. After owning several used cars and now buying new, I'm going back honestly.


    29. 02-11-2009 05:12 PM #29
      friends mom has a 07 tsx and i drive it a pretty good amount. IMO im not a fan at all. i cant say how the stick is but the auto is sloshy and sow as balls. my friend just got an is-f and i went to the dealer with him and test drove the is250, not a bad car i liked the interior and the level of "luxary" but i think the exterior is god awful. Have u considered a MK6 GTI?

    30. Geriatric Member absoluteczech's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 12th, 2006
      Location
      Newport Coast, CA
      Posts
      35,710
      Vehicles
      2013 VW GTI 2DR DBM
      02-11-2009 05:15 PM #30
      Quote, originally posted by vdubin_allday »
      Have u considered a MK6 GTI?

      his lease is up in a few months, what he suppos to do then? walk and wait till the mk6 gti is released?


    31. 02-11-2009 05:16 PM #31
      hello public transportation!!!!! eeeeeekkkkk

    32. Member silverA4quattro's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 21st, 2004
      Location
      Conshohocken, PA
      Posts
      12,618
      Vehicles
      '10 Jetta TDI, '13 Cruze Eco
      02-11-2009 05:18 PM #32
      Quote, originally posted by vdubin_allday »
      hello public transportation!!!!! eeeeeekkkkk

      I'm sure Ann Arbor's public transit is second to none.


    33. Geriatric Member absoluteczech's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 12th, 2006
      Location
      Newport Coast, CA
      Posts
      35,710
      Vehicles
      2013 VW GTI 2DR DBM
      02-11-2009 05:18 PM #33
      Quote, originally posted by silverA4quattro »

      I'm sure Ann Arbor's public transit is second to none.

      probably as good as southern california's


    34. Geriatric Member absoluteczech's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 12th, 2006
      Location
      Newport Coast, CA
      Posts
      35,710
      Vehicles
      2013 VW GTI 2DR DBM
      02-11-2009 05:21 PM #34
      heres a review of the v6 tsx
      http://www.motortrend.com/road....html

    35. Member
      Join Date
      Jun 18th, 2008
      Location
      Maryland
      Posts
      181
      Vehicles
      2007 GTI DSG, 1996 GTI Manual
      02-11-2009 05:33 PM #35
      As a former owner of a Honda (Prelude) and current owner of a VW (GTI)...here is my opinion.

      My Honda was extremely reliable and never let me down. The service I received at all Honda dealerships has been great. I actually like VTEC engines and don't mind the lack of torque. Keep in mind you will not win many drag races but that isn't what the TSX was designed to do. Plenty of power on tap for passing. I also feel like the Honda is a solid vehicle and had very few rattles in the car after 8 years of ownership. Not a very good bang for the buck though.

      With that in mind I love my GTI. After 9 months of ownership I have had a few problems. I already have several rattles and doesn't feel like it can take a beating...even though I know it can. Love the torque. Love the power. The service has not been the best. If I ever decide to modify the car it will be relatively inexpensive compared to the Honda. Much better bang for the buck.

      If I were buying a car for my spouse I would purchase a Honda...for myself I would go VW.

      On that note I am a big fan of Toyota for reliability too.


    Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •