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    Thread: Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T = Mitsu Evo X 4B11?

    1. 02-21-2009 06:28 PM #1
      Apparently the block and a few other components are the same -
      http://genesisowners.com/hyund...=1644
      4B11

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      02-21-2009 06:33 PM #2
      I think the general architecture is shared, but I'm not 100% sure.

    3. 02-21-2009 06:36 PM #3
      The answer to the question is on the first reply of the linked thread:
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      The only thing same about the 4B11 and the Theta II is its block. Intake and exhaust manifold, vvt , and other acessories are different though similar.

      Hyundai designed the basic blocks of the engine. Mitsu and Chrysler each uses a modified version of the Theta engine.

    4. 02-21-2009 07:04 PM #4
      So...it's time for a head swap?

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      02-21-2009 07:08 PM #5
      Quote, originally posted by DIAF »
      So...it's time for a head swap?


      Only tearing one down to see will tell if that will work. Go for it...and report back to all of us, K?
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      02-21-2009 07:16 PM #6
      Yea, I think Mitsubishi still uses their own head/cams etc.
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    7. 02-21-2009 07:17 PM #7
      I for one did not know this. Very interesting. Makes an already compelling coupe even more so.
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      02-21-2009 07:42 PM #8
      I for one welcome our new 4B11 overlords
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      02-21-2009 07:46 PM #9
      The plot thickens...

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      02-21-2009 08:17 PM #10
      Jesus, this car is getting me to want it more and more.

    11. 02-21-2009 08:18 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by mr_e1974 »

      Only tearing one down to see will tell if that will work. Go for it...and report back to all of us, K?

      well, i'm not buying either car in the near future, but if the blocks are shared, it would make sense that a head swap would work.


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      02-21-2009 08:21 PM #12
      Quote, originally posted by Mazda 3s »
      I for one welcome our new 4B11 overlords

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      02-21-2009 08:43 PM #13
      Quote, originally posted by DIAF »
      well, i'm not buying either car in the near future, but if the blocks are shared, it would make sense that a head swap would work.

      Actually, upgrading to the Evo X's internals would probably make more financial sense. If the block is already built for it, you'll likely find plenty of cheaper ways to close that performance gap.

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      02-21-2009 09:08 PM #14
      Despite the fact that the internals and head are different, I'd say that the Hyundai version will probably be pretty robust. The head obviously flows well as the engine makes great power with not a whole lot of boost, less than 10 psi, from what I've read. Hyundai built the 4 and 6 with boost power figures in mind, give their design a chance and see what people can do with it.
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    15. 02-21-2009 10:45 PM #15
      Wow. Wow. This is a big deal, and will absolutely influence my buying decision when I'm looking to buy in this segment in a few more years.

    16. 02-22-2009 01:35 AM #16
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XokgzMeHVf8
      i just want mine to look and sound like that.

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      02-22-2009 02:05 AM #17
      Has a distinct vr6 tone to it no?

    18. 02-22-2009 02:49 AM #18
      Quote, originally posted by Toaster29 »
      Despite the fact that the internals and head are different, I'd say that the Hyundai version will probably be pretty robust. The head obviously flows well as the engine makes great power with not a whole lot of boost, less than 10 psi, from what I've read. Hyundai built the 4 and 6 with boost power figures in mind, give their design a chance and see what people can do with it.

      That's correct.
      Hyundai, particularly w/ the 2.0, wasn't striving to win the HP battle w/ OEM engines - these platforms were specifically geared to tuners.
      Tuners are getting well over 350 HP w/ the 2.0.



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      02-22-2009 03:00 AM #19
      Quote, originally posted by CP1 »
      That's correct.
      Hyundai, particularly w/ the 2.0, wasn't striving to win the HP battle w/ OEM engines - these platforms were specifically geared to tuners.
      Tuners are getting well over 350 HP w/ the 2.0.
      Modified by CP1 at 11:52 PM 2-21-2009

      hopefully they'll have some decent factory support for people who like to mod cars but like to hang on to 10yr/100000 mile warranties.

    20. 02-22-2009 03:36 AM #20
      Quote, originally posted by fknlo »
      hopefully they'll have some decent factory support for people who like to mod cars but like to hang on to 10yr/100000 mile warranties.

      I think that is Hyundai's intention since they are working closely w/ aftermarket suppliers/tuners.
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