g-lader belt tensioner damper bushes

[g60pops]

Has anyone managed to find a source for replacement bushes for the g-lader belt tensioner damper?

[starrd]

I went to a skate board shop and matched up to the ones for the wheel mounts. Did require some modifying - but it works great

[chc-rado]

i was thinking alternator bushings that autotech sells for mk1 setup. cost around 14bucks. i havent try them yet. or try calling gruvenparts to make aluminium solid bushings. i have some alternators laying around and see the mountings bushings will fit the tensioner.

[g60pops]

I'm surprised no company has started selling replacement bushes as there must be quite a demand for them.
BBM help us g60 owners!!!!!

[chc-rado]

bbm does sell a better version of the tensioner- there billit alumium tensioner and it adjustable. i think john not going to make just bushings if he already sells there version. just my 2 cents.

[yip]

Quote, originally posted by chc-rado »

bbm does sell a better version of the tensioner- there billit alumium tensioner and it adjustable. i think john not going to make just bushings if he already sells there version. just my 2 cents.

My adjustable tensioner from BBM was just a cap for the upper half of the stock tensioner. Unless they have changed the design this does not solve the problem completely since the lower bushing still needs to be replaced.

[yip]

Quote, originally posted by starrd »

I went to a skate board shop and matched up to the ones for the wheel mounts. Did require some modifying - but it works great

I work at a skate shop and I will have to look into this. If I can find a bushing that fits with very little modifications i'll let you guys know!

[Pete O. Arguelles]

I have a friend thats an excellent machinist. I'll see about getting him the tensioner so he can take some measurements and make some. I could use a few.

[g60pops]

Quote, originally posted by Pete O. Arguelles »

I have a friend thats an excellent machinist. I'll see about getting him the tensioner so he can take some measurements and make some. I could use a few.

Keep us updated mate

[Z-Raddo G60]

Quote, originally posted by chc-rado »

i was thinking alternator bushings that autotech sells for mk1 setup. cost around 14bucks. i havent try them yet. or try calling gruvenparts to make aluminium solid bushings. i have some alternators laying around and see the mountings bushings will fit the tensioner.

how did this work? do you have a web page?

Quote, originally posted by starrd »

I went to a skate board shop and matched up to the ones for the wheel mounts. Did require some modifying - but it works great

Quote, originally posted by yip »

I work at a skate shop and I will have to look into this. If I can find a bushing that fits with very little modifications i'll let you guys know!

do you guys have a web page too? how much of a mod is this?

Quote, originally posted by Pete O. Arguelles »

I have a friend thats an excellent machinist. I'll see about getting him the tensioner so he can take some measurements and make some. I could use a few.

what material will be used? will there still be the rubber bushing? moar!

[Pete O. Arguelles]

The bushings will be made from high grade aluminum and be a two piece design.
I myself looked at this and have also thought about the damping qualities of the factory rubber especially at that high stress point. I talked it over with my friend and we determined to make them with an o ring around the diameter of the aluminum bushings to keep form having metal to metal contact while still maintaining a factory or superior like bushing integrity.

[AbsoluteNovice]

I had a buddy spin up a couple of Delron bushings for mine, pretty simple and will do the trick....

Anyone with a lathe can make these in about 10 minutes so it shouldn't be hard to find someone that can make them.

[Pete O. Arguelles]

Thats a good and simple way to do it.
The problem I had is I don't have one of the G60 tensioner compressors so I have to manually press down on the tensioner spring and try to slip the bushing on the threaded stud. I have trashed a couple of the factory rubber bushings this way and did not get the tensioner on because they push out the other side. This is very fustrating because 1. at the time I didn't have an unlimited supply of the rubber bushings I had like two spares and 2. they push out after battling with compressing the spring by hand.

The ones I plan on making will have a flange on the inside so this task will be a breeze.

[AbsoluteNovice]

Quote »

Thats a good and simple way to do it. The problem I had is I don't have one of the G60 tensioner compressors so I have to manually press down on the tensioner spring and try to slip the bushing on the threaded stud. I have trashed a couple of the factory rubber bushings this way and did not get the tensioner on because they push out the other side. This is very fustrating because 1. at the time I didn't have an unlimited supply of the rubber bushings I had like two spares and 2. they push out after battling with compressing the spring by hand. The ones I plan on making will have a flange on the inside so this task will be a breeze.

A heavy duty caulking gun does the trick as well, this allows you to ratchet the tensioner assembly (the thing I posted above) and then it slides right on. The one I modified above will never fit on unless it is compressed as the bushings restrict any sideways movement.


Modified by AbsoluteNovice at 12:07 PM 3-21-2009

[Z-Raddo G60]

Quote, originally posted by AbsoluteNovice »

...couple of Delron bushings...

i smell "production", wide scale sells but free to me

[V-TEC this!!!]

Do you guys think polyurathane would work as well??? Im not familiar with the Delron??? what is that?

[g60pops]

i will be interested in at least 3 sets

[Z-Raddo G60]

I would be interested in at least one set maybe two...

[G60 Carat]

Quote, originally posted by V-TEC this!!! »

Do you guys think polyurathane would work as well??? Im not familiar with the Delron??? what is that?

Like a hard plastic, but with some (Minimal) shock absorption properties, But unlike plastic it doesn't get brittle under heat cycling.

It strong as hell too, they are are common replacement for rubber motor mounts, to make solid mounts.

[V-TEC this!!!]

Where could I go about getting my hands on some of this stuff.....I have access to a lathe just need the material.

Ill have to go raid my buddies shop later today and see if he has access to it....

[Pete O. Arguelles]

I will post a pic of the prototype by the end of the week. I can say this it will be a one piece design with a couple of high temp. viton o-rings for now this is the latest design.
Yes it will be over engineered but this is how my buddy works he is a true machinist. His tape measure is a dial caliper.
I myself can't wait to see what the end result will look like and test them out. Yes it's just a simple bushing but I need about 6 for me.

[Baummy]

Quote, originally posted by V-TEC this!!! »

Where could I go about getting my hands on some of this stuff.....I have access to a lathe just need the material. Ill have to go raid my buddies shop later today and see if he has access to it....

Grainger

[westcoastjay]

I need a few sets as well.

[Baummy]

Quote, originally posted by V-TEC this!!! »

Where could I go about getting my hands on some of this stuff.....I have access to a lathe just need the material. Ill have to go raid my buddies shop later today and see if he has access to it....

Grainger

[g60pops]

Quote, originally posted by Pete O. Arguelles »

I will post a pic of the prototype by the end of the week. I can say this it will be a one piece design with a couple of high temp. viton o-rings for now this is the latest design. Yes it will be over engineered but this is how my buddy works he is a true machinist. His tape measure is a dial caliper. I myself can't wait to see what the end result will look like and test them out. Yes it's just a simple bushing but I need about 6 for me.

Any progress on this?

[Pete O. Arguelles]

Here's the prototypes we used bronze for these but the production bushings will be made of 7075 aluminum with high quality high temp o-rings. They work great, look great awesome product. The first batch will be out in about a couple of weeks. Price TBD.
Here the pics.
One last thing with this bushung you don't need special tools to install the tensioner back on the engine just a piece of 8" 2X4. Square it over the top of the tensioner and push down alighn the stud to the hole in the bushing and slip it on. Works great for me this is why these bushings are flanged so they won't slip out or push out.

Modified by Pete O. Arguelles at 6:29 PM 3-22-2009

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Modified by Pete O. Arguelles at 7:20 PM 3-22-2009

[g60pops]

wow, they look perfect!
Keep us updated

[Clownracer v2]

oh i need 4 of those like now

[Z-Raddo G60]

^x2

i have two tensioners but only really need a set for the one on the car

[where_2]

As for the tool required to remount the tensioner, I compressed mine in a wood working vise and wrapped a piece of bailing wire around it to keep it compressed. Once I had it in place, I cut the wire and released the compressed spring... Would I use this method again? Absolutely!

I like the bushing prototypes, keep them coming.

[Z-Raddo G60]

Quote, originally posted by where_2 »

...As for the tool required to remount the tensioner, I compressed mine in a wood working vise and wrapped a piece of bailing wire around it to keep it compressed. Once I had it in place, I cut the wire and released the compressed spring...

I had one made from a c-clamp, the end had a metal U made and welded...it works very nice. I want to redo the other end so it holds the tensioner's top eyelet better, so it doesn't want to walk while taking it down. It was modeled after the VAG tool, an "u" at the bottom to fork the tensioner...and then on top it has a "seat" for the top eyelet.


Modified by Z-Raddo G60 at 5:45 PM 3-23-2009

[Pete O. Arguelles]

I got back with my buddy for the final pricing details, for each bushing it will be 25dls shipped. He has agreed to help out the G60 community, after factoring in time, material, paypal, shipping, packaging you can see why.

Take advantage these will not be made for very long.
Wait time is approx 1 week once he has made the production bushing pm me for ordering.
I will post the pics of the production items when ready.

[Z-Raddo G60]

isn't there like two of these on each shock tensioner?

[Clownracer v2]

Quote, originally posted by Z-Raddo G60 »

isn't there like two of these on each shock tensioner?

yea

[Clownracer v2]

now to be a pita but i think your friend could move a lot more by selling these 25 bucks a set..... just a thought