Username or Email Address
Do you already have an account?
Forgot your password?
  • Log in or Sign up

    VWVortex


    Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
    Results 1 to 35 of 55

    Thread: My VR6T 4-motion project.

    1. 03-22-2009 08:01 AM #1
      So its time to post my tread on this forum i geuss.

      Im working on the car now for 3,5 years.

      This is how it started.


      My 97 MK3 vr6 syncro, highline. How i bought it.

      The paint job was still in very good shape. The engine wassent but i allready knew i was going to pull the engine for a complete rebuild.


      So the plan is to stuff 400 BHP into the car. Dont know if im goieng to make it. But will see how far it will go.

      Then it was time to pull the engine.

      So now it looked like a Golf Country.
      The pictures are a bit low res but better will come.




      Modified by vr64motion at 5:03 AM 3-22-2009


    2. 03-22-2009 08:09 AM #2
      The timing chain was allready making a noise so i knew something wassent right. And when i took the engine apart i saw this.

      Thats not how it should look like. But who cares. Everything is going to get replaced with new stuff.

      More pics of tearing the engine apart.





      So the engine is going away for cleaning and sand blasting. After that a nice fresh colour of black poadercoat on it.


    3. 03-22-2009 08:17 AM #3
      Prepping it for sand blasting.



      And when it came back from poadercoating it looked like this.



      Its hard to see on the pictures but it looks like Sh**
      The coating dous not stick. Its very fragile.
      As you can imagine i was pissed.

      So i had to put all the plates back on, so it can be sandblastit for the second time and painted.


    4. Member Norwegian-VR6's Avatar
      Join Date
      Feb 6th, 2002
      Location
      Norway
      Posts
      1,732
      Vehicles
      96 Golf VRT, 12 Skoda Superb 2,0 TDI
      03-22-2009 08:20 AM #4
      Its alot off work, but I asume the finnish will be awesome.
      So you are gonna fit 02M 4Motion setup?
      And what are your engine/turbo plans?
      2012 Skoda Superb 2.0 TDI avant: Daily family car
      1996 Golf MK3 12V 02M Turbo.

    5. 03-22-2009 08:21 AM #5
      I allready ordered a lot of stuff to put in the new engine. Was wating for ik to come in.

      The engine came back with the second paint job on it. Looks mutch better.

      And the crank came back from the balancer.


    6. 03-22-2009 08:30 AM #6
      Now its time to put the engine beack together.

      Everything new.
      New bearings, chains, ect ect.

      First the new bearing.
      I got speacial bearings for the H beam rods.

      Crank is in.

      And the goodies that came in. Je pistons. 8.5:1


      It lookes great if i say so myzelf.

      Modified by vr64motion at 5:40 AM 3-22-2009


      Modified by vr64motion at 7:02 AM 3-22-2009


    7. 03-22-2009 08:40 AM #7
      The ARP studs mounted on the block.

      All torqed down.

      The head needed some persuading to take back his rightfull place.
      The intake and exhaust ports are bigger and the valve's are 2 mm bigger then the standard 2.9 valve's.

      Time to put the head back together.
      The only thing that issent new are the lifters.
      I hope there still ok. They diddent make any noise so i hope im in the clear.

      Some more goodies.

      There 248/260/113graden 10.2mm/11.2mm cams. Should be perfect for forced induction.

      Got my tial wastegate to. And more

      Modified by vr64motion at 5:41 AM 3-22-2009


      Modified by vr64motion at 5:42 AM 3-22-2009


      Modified by vr64motion at 5:43 AM 3-22-2009


    8. 03-22-2009 08:49 AM #8
      Putting the chains back on.

      The turbo on the picture issent the turbo thats going on the engine. Its just for testing.
      (And it looks awesome.)

      The parts keep coming in.

      New spark plugs.

      And very importend!! a new oil cap.

      And some more teaser pics.

      Also orderd a new waterpump and a new crack pipe. More things to come!!


    9. 03-22-2009 09:04 AM #9
      Even more eninge pics.
      Damm i took a lot of pictures.
      I dont want to hold you out, here they are.

      All new bolts and sensores.

      And the new pump and pipe.

      So the intake manyfold was going to be a bit of a problem.
      I bought a cheap ass one from ebay. But i should have known it wassent going to fit. I tryed modifying it, but it ended up compleetly destroyd.

      So new plan. Buy one that fits.
      After searching the internet i found the schimmel intake.

      Of course you all know schimmel. But i havent seen 1 of them in the netherlands. So time to order and only 3 days later!!

      TA DA!!

      Best looking SRI i ever saw.

      Time to give some more money to charity.
      Only this time i got something back.

      I was laughing out loud when i saw the turbo.
      To my standards, It was HUGE.
      luckely i had some spare time to test fit the SRI.

      Still looking good.


    10. 03-22-2009 09:26 AM #10
      looks great.. 400bhp is a piece of cake..have you fitted in the 4motion..?
      R36T AWD 1100HP

      www.ktech.dk

    11. 03-22-2009 09:27 AM #11
      Ordered some 400cc injectors.

      And bought a lot of stuff for the 4-motion conversion.

      Got the 02M gearbox.
      6 speed gear lever.
      Rear haldex of course.
      and a lot of drive and prop shafts.

      02M in need of some primer.

      Thats my daily driver on the back ground.

      My good old 60HP polo that never breaks down. It only sheads his skin a bit.

      But back on topic.

      Got the gearbox mount from dutchbuild. Why invent the wheel if you can buy it. Fits great.

      So putting it al together it was time to test fit the engine. And as you can see the trans is already in colour.

      BTW thats not my engine but a easy manoeuvreble one.

      Bought a sachs doublle plate clutch. And aluminium flywheel. I had a sinter first but now i dont have to train my legs.

      The flywheel still needes to get balanced.
      So got that done.

      They took out 7 gram.

      Now the real challenge was to get the gear box back on the engine. It took me 2 freaking hours to get it to fit on de vr6 engine. But finally. It was on.

      Finally. A significant breakthrough in the build.



    12. 03-22-2009 09:41 AM #12
      Got a new motor mount from vf engineering.

      Im only going to replace the front mount. I dont like to feel every vibration of the engine.
      allready mounted.

      Starting on mounting the oilcooler.

      In order to mount the intercooler straight
      behind the bumper i needed to mount the radiateur a bit further back. Then the OEM fan probable wouldnt fit any more. Then came in the SPAL fans. Safe's a lot of space.

      I also extended the injector wires with 7 cm so it looks a bit better with the wiring going under the SRI.

      Got a small issue with the wiring of the extra meters. Doessen't look right. So gonne focus on that for now.



    13. 03-22-2009 09:54 AM #13
      Bought even more stuff. This project is draining euro's fast.

      New auxillery pump.

      R32 oil reservoir.

      And a pic how the oil cooler fits.

      Working on the pipes for the turbo.

      And starting on the intcooler piping.

      It looks like im doing everything at the same time. And your right. I am. So i hope i dont forget a srew or something.

      Some more goodies that came in. My Defi gauges.

      Still needed to adapt the gear lever.
      Above the mk3
      center mk4
      and below a OEM part that make's the mk4 fit on a mk3

      Mounted.

      My oil feed line came in.

      I had some trouble finding the right starter engine so i bought a new one.

      Painted the SRI black as it should.

      And some other pics to please you guys.


      Modified by vr64motion at 7:08 AM 3-22-2009


      Modified by vr64motion at 7:39 AM 3-22-2009


      Modified by vr64motion at 7:40 AM 3-22-2009


    14. 03-22-2009 10:01 AM #14
      Afer all this i started to get tired of my car.
      So i diddent do enything at it for the entire winter.

      But when the sun began shinning this year. I wanted to get driving soon. So i picked the project up again.

      So i needed to cut some metal out of the front bumper beam to make room for the IC

      test fitting.

      And mounted on the beam.

      Intake pipe. 100mm in diameter.

      And the rest of the piping all tacked.


      So thats it for now. This is what i have been doing for the last 3,5 years.
      And its time to end it. Because I WANT TO DRIVE IT.

      ow well.
      Keep you posted.
      Comments are appreciated.


    15. Member crzygreek's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 8th, 2005
      Location
      Montreal, QC
      Posts
      1,680
      Vehicles
      94' Corrado VR6, 03' Audi TT225 & 04' R32
      03-22-2009 10:43 AM #15
      Wow amazing project and beautiful car! What EFI system are you going to be using?

      And if i can make one comment: PLEASE change out those lifters to the light weight INA ones, you already gone so far and no point in scraping those shricks you know...


    16. Member jDUB92's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 18th, 2006
      Posts
      807
      Vehicles
      92 VW Jetta 8v 97 VW GTI Drivers Edition 03 VW GTI 20th
      03-22-2009 11:59 AM #16
      Why only 400cc injectors? looking good though man!!

    17. 03-22-2009 12:45 PM #17
      400cc should be big enough to get 400hp.
      You think i should buy bigger ones?

    18. Member nuclearaddict's Avatar
      Join Date
      Feb 1st, 2002
      Location
      Portland OR
      Posts
      1,468
      Vehicles
      3.0T MK3, B5.5 Passat, MKV Jetta
      03-22-2009 12:51 PM #18
      Yeah, best not to reuse those lifters, especially not putting them back into the same place they were before. Will increase wear on the valvetrain.

    19. Member crzygreek's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 8th, 2005
      Location
      Montreal, QC
      Posts
      1,680
      Vehicles
      94' Corrado VR6, 03' Audi TT225 & 04' R32
      03-22-2009 01:07 PM #19
      ps: depending on what your using to control the motor, i would recommend 630cc's at the very least, no point in building a motor like that only to run 18-20psi and maxing out injector duty cycle.

    20. Member
      Join Date
      Nov 27th, 2004
      Location
      Charlotte, NC
      Posts
      7,123
      Vehicles
      2000 VW Jetta VRT, 2000 Audi TT Quattro
      03-22-2009 01:47 PM #20
      Great looking build....but you spend all that $$ and get a crappy plastic crack pipe? I don't get it.

      Mike

      Chapter 11 Dubs: Member #001
      http://www.chapter11dubs.com
      -----------------------

    21. 03-22-2009 02:58 PM #21
      The OEM one wassent broke. So it hold for 12 years. A new one would do the same.

    22. 03-22-2009 03:00 PM #22
      Going for 630cc injectors wil make the car hard to run 1000 rpm.

    23. Member pimS's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jan 7th, 2009
      Location
      Nearby Amsterdam
      Posts
      650
      Vehicles
      96' VRT
      03-22-2009 04:15 PM #23
      Verry verry nice, but you knew that allready
      Ex-VRT owner

    24. Senior Member jhayesvw's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 3rd, 2001
      Location
      Tucson, AZ
      Posts
      20,061
      Vehicles
      04 Passat Wagon
      03-22-2009 08:57 PM #24
      you can make 500 front wheel HP on 42# injectors.
      i wouldnt worry much about going to the 630s unless you are very hungry for power.

      also, dont forget to upgrade your fuel pump for the 42# injectors.
      car looks great.
      i too have a 4 door vrT. its just not all wheel drive


    25. 03-22-2009 10:15 PM #25
      One thing I saw that you might want to change. The filter for the oil feed line, Id put it closer to the turbo so you can clean it every oil change nice and easy. A clogged filter is not a good thing for that turbo. BTW: Youll love the GT3076R, best turbo for a street VR IMO.

    26. Member KubotaPowered's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jan 27th, 2005
      Location
      Tucson, AZ
      Posts
      11,758
      Vehicles
      2013 PG GLI
      03-22-2009 11:50 PM #26
      You have an extra driveshaft and a heavier than usual rear axle, its a lot of extra weight so I think you should get rid of it, I'll take it off your hands for you.

      Good lookin build, can't wait to see where this goes!!


      Modified by KubotaPowered at 9:52 PM 3-22-2009

      Quote Originally Posted by ..Derek.. View Post
      Clearly you aren't familiar with the "Golden Corrado". It's so clinically clean that in the event that you must urinate it must be done at least one zip code away in fear that it may catch a staph infection.

    27. Member sgolf2000's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 2nd, 2003
      Location
      Baltimore, MD
      Posts
      1,581
      Vehicles
      2000 golf 8v turbo
      03-23-2009 12:58 AM #27
      how sweet is a 4 door awd vrt. and its purple. i love the car.
      f.s. mk4 avh complete head, intake and exhaust manifolds http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...haust-manifold

    28. 03-23-2009 05:06 AM #28
      Quote, originally posted by vr64motion »

      Still needed to adapt the gear lever.
      Above the mk3
      center mk4
      and below a OEM part that make's the mk4 fit on a mk3

      May I ask what's the part number of that lowest part? I didn't even know such thing exists
      Nice build btw, I too have a Euro 4 door VRT, going 4motion soon


    29. 03-23-2009 01:09 PM #29
      Quote, originally posted by vr64motion »
      Going for 630cc injectors wil make the car hard to run 1000 rpm.

      in the 70s yes ....now no

      Even 1000cc is not a problem.

      So get the 630cc or even better the new siemens 880cc from USRT


    30. 03-23-2009 04:23 PM #30
      Had to look it up.

      3 parts:

      6N0 711 061 A House
      6N0 711 090 A Ground plate
      6N0 711 611 C Choise arm

      You need all 3. Cost about 70 euro's

      Thanks for the comments.
      But now im hassetating whether to buy bigger injectors or not.
      Im gonne try it with these and if i dont get 400 hp i can always buy bigger one's.


      Modified by vr64motion at 1:29 PM 3-23-2009


    31. 03-23-2009 04:44 PM #31
      Thanks a lot
      This should be very useful for anyone swapping the 02M into the MK3 (Y)

    32. 03-23-2009 04:54 PM #32
      Good lookin project.. just make sure you swap out those old lifters

    33. Member speed51133!'s Avatar
      Join Date
      Aug 5th, 2002
      Location
      alexandria va/milwaukee wi
      Posts
      7,691
      Vehicles
      02 audi tt 225 / mk3 jetta /audi 5000s turbo
      03-23-2009 06:28 PM #33
      Quote, originally posted by vr64motion »
      Had to look it up.

      3 parts:

      6N0 711 061 A House
      6N0 711 090 A Ground plate
      6N0 711 611 C Choise arm

      You need all 3. Cost about 70 euro's

      Thanks for the comments.
      But now im hassetating whether to buy bigger injectors or not.
      Im gonne try it with these and if i dont get 400 hp i can always buy bigger one's.


      Modified by vr64motion at 1:29 PM 3-23-2009


      know of a place to order parts like this online that ship internationally???

    34. Member jDUB92's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 18th, 2006
      Posts
      807
      Vehicles
      92 VW Jetta 8v 97 VW GTI Drivers Edition 03 VW GTI 20th
      03-23-2009 08:34 PM #34
      Quote, originally posted by vr64motion »
      400cc should be big enough to get 400hp.
      You think i should buy bigger ones?

      It just don't make seance to build a engine to that caliber and then put 400cc injectors in. Its like a governor that's going to restrict what it can really do and handle. Id say 440cc #42 Bosch greentops at the least. Just my two cents...


    35. Member instg8r's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 21st, 2003
      Location
      Brantford..and the rest of the world sometimes..
      Posts
      3,630
      Vehicles
      91 Passat wagon VRT, 98 Landrover Disco, 2002 MB C230, 2012 Hyundai Genesis 2.0T GT
      03-23-2009 09:23 PM #35
      even the #42 injectors wont even come close to what that engine is biult for.....

      be a man and get 630cc injectors

      '91 Passat Wagon VRT- ground up rebuild coming soon
      '98 Landrover Discovery- lifted, 31's, headers, custom exhaust
      '02 Mercedes-Benz C230 Kompressor - stock FOR SALE
      '12 Hyundai Genesis 2.0T GT

    Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •