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    Thread: The Hamilton Report.......3.0v

    1. 05-17-2012 10:37 AM #126
      This is the year....

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      05-17-2012 02:47 PM #127
      Quote Originally Posted by dubsix View Post
      Lewis has become a complete driver. The driver who is normally hard on his tires... he made those 2nd set of tires last over 30 laps and had enough left in them to attack Nico. He was the only two stopping driver this race. From what I see the WDC is his this year, his biggest obstacle is his team's constant drive to fcck things up at every turn, lewis seems to be able to handle the frustration very well though.
      This is somewhat similar to Kimi's woes at McLaren in 2005, but it wasn't intentional then.

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      05-17-2012 09:47 PM #128
      Quote Originally Posted by 24vEngineer View Post
      intentional
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      05-17-2012 09:53 PM #129
      Quote Originally Posted by 24vEngineer View Post
      This is somewhat similar to Kimi's woes at McLaren in 2005, but it wasn't intentional then.
      Quote Originally Posted by atomicalex View Post
      That implies she had pants on to begin with. I think we can all agree that pants are not a given.

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      05-17-2012 10:56 PM #130
      What's to be about?

      Its clear as day what is going on within the McLaren Camp. No logical explanation can be given for the blatant mistakes this season.

      "Human error" you say? I thought so.....especially after mistake #1. Could that same reasoning be used for mistake #2? Maaaaaaybe.

      But now?

      C'mon maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan...... As Mike Tyson would say, "Dis is LEW-DAH-KRITHPAH."

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      05-18-2012 01:28 AM #131
      Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
      Ok, extremely sloppy which is very unbecoming of a top tier F1 team like McLaren. It makes you kinda think WTF, let the guy race already even though you don't like him.

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      05-18-2012 09:47 AM #132
      Example:

      Qualifying in Spain
      Hamiltons race engineer knows EXACTLY how much fuel to put in the car for the out lap, 1 extremely blisteringly hot lap, the in lap, and the required volume for fuel sample. He also knows that it is required that Hamilton's car drive into scrutineering under its own power or the team will receive a penalty, this is not up for debate with Charlie Whiting, it is in the sporting regs. So, given the fact that the race engineer decided to under fuel the car to gain a couple of tenths knowing they would get a penalty (it has happened to them before and that would mean that the pole benefits them nothing) they are either colossally phucking stupid or somebody made that decision on purpose.

      I don't believe McLaren International recruits idiots (ok, the wheel guy might be an exception). I work in the aerospace industry and they are a bit more PC, so there are some knucklehead engineers that come through from time to time, but I know for a fact that the engineers that go into F1 are all 4.0's in their undergrad and master studies. McLaren demands excellence and a mediocre or under performing engineer is quickly exposed in an environment like that.

      I'm not saying that Martin Whitmarsh is intentionally sabotaging Lewis Hamilton's season, but can somebody explain to me why they would send him out on low fuel in Q3 knowing he wouldn't make it back to scrutineering nor have a fuel sample for the stewards???

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      05-18-2012 10:35 AM #133
      Quote Originally Posted by 24vEngineer View Post
      Example:

      Qualifying in Spain
      Hamiltons race engineer knows EXACTLY how much fuel to put in the car for the out lap, 1 extremely blisteringly hot lap, the in lap, and the required volume for fuel sample. He also knows that it is required that Hamilton's car drive into scrutineering under its own power or the team will receive a penalty, this is not up for debate with Charlie Whiting, it is in the sporting regs. So, given the fact that the race engineer decided to under fuel the car to gain a couple of tenths knowing they would get a penalty (it has happened to them before and that would mean that the pole benefits them nothing) they are either colossally phucking stupid or somebody made that decision on purpose.

      I don't believe McLaren International recruits idiots (ok, the wheel guy might be an exception). I work in the aerospace industry and they are a bit more PC, so there are some knucklehead engineers that come through from time to time, but I know for a fact that the engineers that go into F1 are all 4.0's in their undergrad and master studies. McLaren demands excellence and a mediocre or under performing engineer is quickly exposed in an environment like that.

      I'm not saying that Martin Whitmarsh is intentionally sabotaging Lewis Hamilton's season, but can somebody explain to me why they would send him out on low fuel in Q3 knowing he wouldn't make it back to scrutineering nor have a fuel sample for the stewards???
      I thought the fuel guy (race engineer does not actually fill the tank just gives the numbers to the fuels guy) flipped the wrong switch. Meaning he switched from putting fuel IN the car to taking it OUT without knowing it. Whatever the reason this is not typical of McLaren. They would be stupid to sabotage Hammie races, too much money on the line. If they really don't like Hammie, don't extend his contract, simple as that. I blame it on Sam Michaels. Williams made error after error while he was there and now they are winning races. Now he's at McLaren and they are making $hitty mistakes...coincidence, I think not.

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      05-18-2012 10:40 AM #134
      Quote Originally Posted by wiredvw View Post
      I thought the fuel guy (race engineer does not actually fill the tank just gives the numbers to the fuels guy) flipped the wrong switch. Meaning he switched from putting fuel IN the car to taking it OUT without knowing it. Whatever the reason this is not typical of McLaren. They would be stupid to sabotage Hammie races, too much money on the line. If they really don't like Hammie, don't extend his contract, simple as that. I blame it on Sam Michaels. Williams made error after error while he was there and now they are winning races. Now he's at McLaren and they are making $hitty mistakes...coincidence, I think not.
      So McLaren is saying that the guy filling up Hamilton's car was asleep at the wheel during the most critical time of quali? What's with this team? Their pit crew has gone to shyte and they have one of the most competitive cars on the grid?

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      05-18-2012 12:48 PM #135
      Quote Originally Posted by 24vEngineer View Post
      So McLaren is saying that the guy filling up Hamilton's car was asleep at the wheel during the most critical time of quali? What's with this team? Their pit crew has gone to shyte and they have one of the most competitive cars on the grid?
      Pretty much. The kicker is they had time to fix the problem.

      http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/0...in-qualifying/

      Quote Originally Posted by James Allen on F1
      How did it happen? My BBC colleague Gary Anderson saw the refuelling and said this, “The fuel rig guy put the rig on, but he had the handle set to drain fuel. He discovered his mistake and switched it to put fuel in the car. But as a result he didn’t put as much fuel in it as he should have. He (Hamilton) went across the start-finish line 20 seconds before the chequered flag but if they had sat in the garage for three or four more seconds to get more fuel in, they still would have had time to cross the line and complete another flying lap. Sometimes I don’t think McLaren think on their feet.”

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      06-21-2012 08:47 PM #136
      bahdunkah-bump!

      A bit late??...........or a bit early??...

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      06-22-2012 09:39 AM #137
      Quote Originally Posted by jsmyle1%... View Post
      bahdunkah-bump!

      A bit late??...........or a bit early??...
      Hope dies last.
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    13. 06-22-2012 10:48 AM #138
      LH WDC '12

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      06-24-2012 08:39 PM #139
      Quote Originally Posted by jsmyle1%... View Post
      bahdunkah-bump!

      A bit late??...........or a bit early??...
      Well, which is it?

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      06-24-2012 09:24 PM #140
      Quote Originally Posted by Mk1Racer View Post
      Well, which is it?
      Neither I suppose....

      Shoulda....coulda.....woulda.....

      Hypothetically speaking.....If the team didn't screw up yet AGAIN.....blah, blah... (I don't wanna sound like you-know-who)

      Great win for Alonso.... He's still not my favorite, but as he has matured, I've gained more respect for his talent. It'll be great to see him back with his Macca teammate under the Tifosi banner!!

      Great podium.... Did anyone catch Schumi holding back the "rolling of the eyes" after Kimi's typical, monotone post-race interview?

      Lewis will rebound despite the efforts of McLaren to do otherwise.

      Vettel will rebound just because he's the GOAT.....

      Let's try this again next time. Whadaya say?

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      06-25-2012 09:33 AM #141
      Quote Originally Posted by jsmyle1%... View Post
      Neither I suppose....

      Shoulda....coulda.....woulda.....

      Hypothetically speaking.....If the team didn't screw up yet AGAIN.....blah, blah... (I don't wanna sound like you-know-who)

      Great win for Alonso.... He's still not my favorite, but as he has matured, I've gained more respect for his talent. It'll be great to see him back with his Macca teammate under the Tifosi banner!!

      Great podium.... Did anyone catch Schumi holding back the "rolling of the eyes" after Kimi's typical, monotone post-race interview?

      Lewis will rebound despite the efforts of McLaren to do otherwise.

      Vettel will rebound just because he's the GOAT.....

      Let's try this again next time. Whadaya say?
      I could hardly believe Hammie's pitstop was crap yet again. Not one jack guy failing, but two! Unreal. I will be surprised if Hammie stays at McLaren after this season...what confidence does he have in the team to help him win???

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      06-25-2012 01:51 PM #142
      Quote Originally Posted by jsmyle1%... View Post
      Great win for Alonso.... He's still not my favorite, but as he has matured, I've gained more respect for his talent. It'll be great to see him back with his Macca teammate under the Tifosi banner!!
      You know Alonso has a say in the choice of his next teammate, right?
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      06-25-2012 02:10 PM #143
      Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
      You know Alonso has a say in the choice of his next teammate, right?
      Yes.... I know.

      Who knows? They are both maturing as individuals and drivers (maybe Alonso a bit more than Hammie)...

      The silly season may start a bit early!!!

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    20. 07-31-2012 02:48 PM #145
      Quote Originally Posted by jsmyle1%... View Post
      Yes.... I know.

      Who knows? They are both maturing as individuals and drivers (maybe Alonso a bit more than Hammie)...

      The silly season may start a bit early!!!
      I was in Valencia this year. You can't begin to imagine how much the Spaniards hate Hamilton. I would fear for his life if they were reunited.

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      08-04-2012 02:12 PM #146
      I gotta tell ya that i'm not a big Hamilton fan, but that picture that you just posted was a waste of time. WTF?
      Let's just move on...
      Form is temporary; Class is permanent

    22. 08-04-2012 04:26 PM #147
      Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
      I gotta tell ya that i'm not a big Hamilton fan, but that picture that you just posted was a waste of time. WTF?
      Let's just move on...
      Removed it just for you but the question still stands. Would Spaniards be tolerant of LH being teammates with FA versus lets say a MW or a SV etc etc? That was in response to "Spaniards hating LH like no other" post. Looking for feedback from people who have lived or stayed in Spain for a prolong period of time. So lets have it... if LH became FA's teammate would it float well with Spaniards?

      And BTW, I feel that FA truley kicks butt on the track. He's probably going to be 2012 WDC. Just saying that in case you thought I was some sort of LH butt humper. Granted, its going to be interesting to see LH climb out of the hole he either dug himself into or was thrown into (depending on how you want to view LH).
      Last edited by alomI wolleY iTG; 08-04-2012 at 04:46 PM.

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      09-22-2012 07:44 PM #148
      Quote Originally Posted by alomI wolleY iTG View Post
      Removed it just for you but the question still stands. Would Spaniards be tolerant of LH being teammates with FA versus lets say a MW or a SV etc etc? That was in response to "Spaniards hating LH like no other" post. Looking for feedback from people who have lived or stayed in Spain for a prolong period of time. So lets have it... if LH became FA's teammate would it float well with Spaniards?

      And BTW, I feel that FA truley kicks butt on the track. He's probably going to be 2012 WDC. Just saying that in case you thought I was some sort of LH butt humper. Granted, its going to be interesting to see LH climb out of the hole he either dug himself into or was thrown into (depending on how you want to view LH).
      What about Germans?

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      09-22-2012 08:11 PM #149
      Quote Originally Posted by jsmyle1%... View Post
      What about Germans?
      Imo, the Spanish that booed Ham are passionate about their Countryman. Not necessarily racist, like people are quick to suggest.
      I don't believe the Germans are either. Then again, they would not give a rat's arse about Zo's and Hamilton's previous stint at Macca.
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      09-22-2012 08:35 PM #150
      Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
      Imo, the Spanish that booed Ham are passionate about their Countryman. Not necessarily racist, like people are quick to suggest.
      I don't believe the Germans are either. Then again, they would not give a rat's arse about Zo's and Hamilton's previous stint at Macca.
      You know where I was going with that....

      I really could care less about the racist crap. I was (A) wanting to resurrect the Hamilton topic and (B) continue the debate about where Hamilton may end up (ie. potentially as a teammate to Rosberg....or Schumacher....or BOTH......Germans!!)...

      Lame attempt at a segue?

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