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    Thread: A new MKV R32 exhaust option......Borla!

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      04-03-2009 12:51 AM #1
      Hey guys, I wanted to share with you my newest modification added to my R, a Borla catback exhaust system. Borla's been around for quite some time and they have a fine reputation for building high quality stainless-steel exhaust systems. When I was confronted with the possibility for them to use my R32 to proto-type a catback exhaust system, I jumped at the opportunity. To say the least, I'm very pleased with the results.

      Borla has exceeded all my expectations. This catback has it all, sound, looks, performance, fitment, and quality.

      The system consists of two 4.25 inch chrome exhaust tips, one rear mounted specifically R32-designed muffler, and a center mounted resanator. I don't have the exact weight but, it saved a few pounds over the surprisingly light factory VW catback system.

      The Borla catback has a very mellow and smooth sound at idle. This system does not drone like many other systems and it is not annoying or loud in the cabin. You can easily listen to the radio at low sound levels or have a conversation on the phone or with other passengers without any difficulty. Even at full throttle the exhaust tone is controlled and enjoyable. There is only a slight bit of typical R32 raspyness. On the race track, my R was boasting a really nice tune compared with many other cars on the track. I am very pleased with the sound.


      I can't comment on pricing yet but, I imagine that it will be similar or cheaper than many of the catbacks currently offered.

      Mike


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    2. 04-03-2009 12:52 AM #2
      pics? sound clips?

      TIA


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      04-03-2009 12:56 AM #3
      ^^^^^
      Coming soon....

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      04-03-2009 12:57 AM #4
      I was wondering when you might say something after reading the trackday thread.

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      04-03-2009 01:06 AM #5
      saw and heard this system in person and it is definitely a nice quality system that looks and sounds great

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      04-03-2009 01:12 AM #6
      hey, if you can, some close up pics of the exhaust tips. i really like borla, but sometimes their tips are just not my style. i really like the double wall tips magnaflow is known for.

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      04-03-2009 03:11 AM #7
      Hmmm Borla or magnaflow...
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    8. 04-03-2009 03:50 AM #8
      Is it louder than stock? How much louder? (at start up, at idle, and WOT) Please more info would be appriciated now i got to think which one i want Miltek/magnaflow/borla

    9. 04-03-2009 06:32 AM #9
      When will it be for sale or when will we know a price...that sale on magnaflow is hard to beat

    10. 04-03-2009 07:02 AM #10
      awesome news, get us some clips please

    11. 04-03-2009 07:36 AM #11
      I used to have a Borla on my Mk2 8v. It was pretty nice. Great sound, but no drone and not overly loud.

    12. 04-03-2009 10:40 AM #12
      sounds like its gonna be nice, but how are 4.25" tips not gonna burn the diffuser?

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      04-03-2009 10:46 AM #13
      Tanik, it was great meeting you, I look forward to our next meeting.

      Quote, originally posted by devious duck »
      hey, if you can, some close up pics of the exhaust tips. i really like borla, but sometimes their tips are just not my style. i really like the double wall tips magnaflow is known for.

      I definitely will get some more pics of the tips and underneath the car to show the full catback. The Borla tips resemble the Magnaflow tips IMO.

      I should have more pics up tomorrow.

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      04-03-2009 10:52 AM #14
      Quote, originally posted by AHB900 »
      Is it louder than stock? How much louder? (at start up, at idle, and WOT) Please more info would be appriciated now i got to think which one i want Miltek/magnaflow/borla

      Yes, it is louder than stock. I would guesstimate stock sound X2 at start-up, x1.5 at idle, and x3 at WOT.

      I plan on getting some sound clips of the exhaust but, I just need some help with that.

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      04-03-2009 11:49 AM #15
      lets get this man some help guys, for anyone thats local.

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      04-03-2009 02:03 PM #16
      ^^^^^

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      04-03-2009 06:34 PM #17
      I have had Borla on previous cars, and always loved what it did to enhance the exhaust note.

      Keeping my eye on this!

      Quote Originally Posted by dubnick32 View Post
      That guy shouldn't own an R32. I bet he goes out dancing at least twice a week.

    18. 04-03-2009 06:54 PM #18
      Thanks Mike for your post and commentary.
      The is Alvin Tolosa from Borla Performance Industries and I hope I can help answer some questions about our new Borla mk5 R32 Cat-Back exhaust. I am involved in the development of this system from the consumer interest of sound, look, feel. I'm not an engineer and I don't have all the technical answers to all of your questions, but I can share some insight in this development.

      A little background...
      Borla Performance has experience with the VR6 in the mk4 R32 exhaust. (2) of us here own mk4 R32's. David Borla uses his dd (with possibly the highest mileage mk4 R32) and tested many development versions in his daily commute. I've run my mk4 R32 Borla (140124) exhaust at 8-10 track days and while the dB level is less than the OE w/ flapper mod, the performance at 90+ mph is much improved over OE. When developing this exhaust our goal was to enhance the unique VR6 sound on the new quieter mk5 platform and increase the dB while minimizing the drone.

      Drone
      One of the challenges in the VR6 is balancing the level of agressive sound while minimizing any highway drone. Drone is, IMO, the constant annoying sound you hear when cabin and engine resonance coincide. It keeps you from having a pleasant conversation or listening to the radio at resonable dB levels. Drone can also give you a headache while driving and often the biggest objection with an aftermarket exhaust. I might add the DSG transmission and mode-selection was a new varible with drone; this vehicle is sensitive at 2-2.2k rpm in 6th gear. Just another challenge.

      Sound
      The mk5 cabin is quieter with a lower dB level than the mk4 possibly due to the rigid platform and sound insulation. We had to increase our exhaust note dB to a level customers want and expect. Additionally driving with the windows down, we wanted to tune the sound so that (us) track drivers would hear the exhaust note. There is little compromise in our design using a specific muffler and center resonator. After multiple prototypes and revisions with on-road testing, we have created a product that meets our goals in sound level, tone, and without drone!

      Final Design
      Borla has been in the business of performance exhausts about 30 years dealing with the balance of drone and performance. Our final design incorporates a mk5-R32-specific rear muffler with center resonator. Space requirements are tight and Borla R&D was challenged, but we believe we met our goals in developing a great product for the mk5 R32.

      We plan to announce this product on our website later this month with production following soon afterwards. We plan to have on one on display at Fastivus 2009 and (hopefully) Mike will have his available to listen. For those looking for numbers, it does save some weight, flows better, and dyno numbers will be available soon (from a reliable source ).

      Some pics of Mike's exhaust...

      Rear Muffler

      Center Resonator

      4.25" tips

      Quote Originally Posted by saron81 View Post
      Would you people PLEASE stop typing those symbols before the "R"!!
      .:R

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      04-03-2009 07:01 PM #19
      Post up some better pictures.

      Looks good from what I can see though.


    20. 04-03-2009 07:06 PM #20
      Come oooooon Sound clips please.

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      04-03-2009 07:52 PM #21
      how large is the piping?

      Price?

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    22. 04-03-2009 07:53 PM #22
      Quote, originally posted by alvint_vw »

      Rear Muffler

      Wow that is pretty wild looking. I haven't looked at the various other muffler designs available for our cars so maybe it's normal?

      It is a little weird how the inlet to the muffler has to take that 90° turn to go into the muffler as opposed to just being a straight shot in like the OEM design.

      A pic showing the entire length of the cat-back exhaust would be perfect


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      04-03-2009 08:29 PM #23
      Some pics of Mike's exhaust...

      Rear Muffler

      Center Resonator

      4.25" tips

      [/QUOTE]

      Nice kama sutra look with the twisty piping

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    24. 04-04-2009 04:27 PM #24
      Quote, originally posted by justinperkins »

      Wow that is pretty wild looking. I haven't looked at the various other muffler designs available for our cars so maybe it's normal?

      It is a little weird how the inlet to the muffler has to take that 90° turn to go into the muffler as opposed to just being a straight shot in like the OEM design.

      A pic showing the entire length of the cat-back exhaust would be perfect

      Thanks for these questions. The OE exhaust muffler is much different in construction, flow-design, and material choice with a lesser warranty. At Borla our approach is a straight-thru muffler design (no baffles or chambers) and use materials OE manufacturers can't due to their cost constraints. We also warranty our cat-back exhausts for 1-million miles. While the design may look complicated in this tight space, the design is consistent with all Borla Performance product with a great VR6 sound and performance without the drone.

      ***** Note: Please keep in mind these are prototype development pics and not product beauty shots. I'll see what I have with in full system pic. *****

      Quote Originally Posted by saron81 View Post
      Would you people PLEASE stop typing those symbols before the "R"!!
      .:R

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      04-04-2009 06:41 PM #25
      Quote, originally posted by alvint_vw »

      ***** Note: Please keep in mind these are prototype development pics and not product beauty shots. I'll see what I have with in full system pic. *****

      LOL!

      Guys I'm very busy and I haven't had the opportunity to take pics of the full catback. However, I've taken a couple more pics of the tips at different angles.

      Enjoy!

      As you can see, the tips by far, are the best looking and best fit for the contur of the rear bumper, IMHO.

      Mike


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      04-04-2009 06:43 PM #26
      Quote, originally posted by Turn8 »


      Beautiful exhaust tips!

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      04-04-2009 06:53 PM #27
      A couple more;

      Stock R32

      Borla R32

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      04-04-2009 06:57 PM #28
      please ....we need sound clips?

      R32/939

    29. 04-04-2009 08:23 PM #29
      This thread is nice, but pointless without a sound clip.

      so... pleeeeeeeeease


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      04-04-2009 08:27 PM #30
      Quote, originally posted by Tampavw »
      please ....we need sound clips?

      It sounds like this....

      vroooooom..... vvvrrrooooooommmm!!!

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      04-04-2009 08:32 PM #31
      ^^^^
      LOL!

      I just need some local help with the sound clips.

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      04-04-2009 09:03 PM #32
      that is damn sexy. ill prolly jump on board when they are released.

      only thing is i wouldnt mind the tips stickin out a bit more. half inch maybe?


    33. 04-04-2009 09:40 PM #33
      Quote, originally posted by nebuchadnezzar »

      It sounds like this....

      vroooooom..... vvvrrrooooooommmm!!!


      No no you got it all wrong.

      It's...

      vroom vroom vvvrrrooooooooommmm!!!!!


    34. 04-04-2009 10:03 PM #34
      HAVVVEEEE TOOOOO HAVEEE !!! i have loved borla since my 98 passat.. and then my 02 GTI.... both had boral from techtonics... pure love ... i willlllllll be getting this !!!

    35. 04-05-2009 12:29 AM #35
      Quote, originally posted by nebuchadnezzar »

      It sounds like this....

      vroooooom..... vvvrrrooooooommmm!!!


      Quote Originally Posted by saron81 View Post
      Would you people PLEASE stop typing those symbols before the "R"!!
      .:R

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