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      05-21-2009 04:47 AM #1

      Volkswagen AG has released photos of the new facelifted Golf/Jetta Wagon. The main change is the front end which has now been brought in alignment with the Golf VI front end. There are also some updated pieces on the interior as well. This new facelifted version of the North American Jetta SportWagen will be available in dealers as a 2010 model "around" September of this year. The Golf VI itself should hit dealers at the end of September/early October.
      The Volkswagen AG press release follows below...
      The New Golf Estate - Initial Facts
      New Golf Estate launches at prices starting at € 18,500, including climate control and daytime running lights*
      Technology and features on par with sixth Golf generation
      Front end of Golf Estate now follows new Volkswagen “Design DNA”

      Wolfsburg, 21 May 2009 - Volkswagen will begin accepting advance orders for the new Golf Estate this Friday. In the sixth generation of the world bestseller, after the 2-door and 4-door Golfs and the latest Golf Plus, this is the fourth body version to be launched. The estate is one of the most successful models on the market, particularly in the company car market. The extensive redesign of this Estate should ensure that the all-around talent further extends its position as a business estate car and as a first car for families as well. The base price of the new Golf Estate in Germany, including ESP, six airbags, daytime running lights, roof railing, power windows all around, upshift indicator, power and heated outside mirrors, 1/3 to 2/3 split folding rear bench seat and seatback, central locking with RF remote control, climate control and 1,495 litres of cargo capacity is € 18,500.
      The front end of the Golf Estate was completely redesigned. Its visual appearance follows today’s Volkswagen "Design DNA". From now its appearance is defined by clear horizontal lines and bold headlight styling. The car’s engine lineup was adopted directly from the Golf 2-door and 4-door models. In the interior, the high-end instruments of the current Golf set the tone. In Europe, first units of the new Golf will be delivered in September.
      Features and engines
      At its market launch – in parallel to advance sales that are now starting – the successful Estate (more than 95,000 new vehicle registrations in 2008) will be offered in the three equipment versions Trendline, Comfortline and Highline. The latter replaces the previous Sportline version as the top equipment line. Engines available for selection when advance sales begin are a TSI (boosted gasoline direct-injection engine) with 90 kW / 122 PS and two very quiet common rail turbo-diesels (77 kW / 105 PS and 103 kW / 140 PS). Other engines will follow in stages: two Multipoint engines (59 kW / 80 PS and 75 kW / 102 PS) and another TSI gasoline engine (118 kW / 160 PS). All six engines fulfil the new Euro-5 emissions standard.
      Exterior details of the new Golf Estate
      In front, the new Golf Estate can be recognized by its new bumper, radiator grille and engine hood styling and its modified fenders and headlights, which were all adapted 1:1 from the estate’s 2-door and 4-door counterparts. In contrast to the previous model, the front-end design is no longer defined by a chrome radiator grille, rather by a black, horizontally layout of the grille and front bumper painted in car colour. In the lower area, the Estate has an additional large air inlet too. Starting with the mid-level equipment version (Comfortline), chrome inserts are integrated in the radiator grille and the lower air inlet. In the top Highline version, this also applies to the frames for the front fog lights with new static turning light function that are a standard feature here.
      At the rear, the independent design of the previous model has been upgraded in the new generation by modified, more elegant taillights and bumpers fully painted in car colour in the lower area. From now on, TDI and TSI versions can also be recognized by their tailpipes, which are no longer covered by the bumper. In addition, Volkswagen developed a new wheel lineup for the new Golf Estate.
      Interior details of the new Golf Estate
      At the time of its presentation last fall, the sixth generation Golf received excellent marks, especially for its high-end quality. In the interior, it was especially in the styling of the gauges that the Golf crossed boundaries to the next higher class and still does. The same gauges and instruments, including a standard multifunctional display and upshift indicator, are now being used in the new Golf Estate too. Also adopted from the Golf was the new generation of three-spoke steering wheels, which celebrated their debut in the Passat CC in 2008.
      In this context, controls for the new Golf climate control system were integrated in the Golf Estate as well. Volkswagen also adapted its line of different seat covers (Trendline: "Roxy"; Comfortline: "Scout"; Highline: Alcantara/fabric "Merlin") to the entire model series. The same applies to features ranging from the radio and navigation systems up to the interfaces for MP3 players and Bluetooth mobile telephones. Two driver assistance systems are also available as options for the first time in the Golf Estate: "ParkAssist" (automatic parking assistant) and "Rear Assist" (rearview camera). Another feature being offered is the panorama sunroof that is popular among many Golf Estate buyers.
      Euro-5 engines of the new Golf Estate in detail
      Volkswagen is launching the new Golf Estate on the market with four gasoline and two diesel engine options; they all meet the limits of the new Euro-5 standard. The entry level continues to be marked by an 80-PS gasoline engine, followed by a 102-PS version. The two most powerful gasoline engines (TSI with 122 PS and 160 PS) and the two turbo-diesels (TDI with 105 PS and 140 PS) may be ordered with an optional automatic DSG dual clutch transmission.
      Entirely new to the Golf Estate’s engine lineup is the 105 PS common rail TDI. Like the larger 2.0-liter TDI, the 1.6-liter four cylinder is also characterized by noticeably comfortable noise levels, low emissions (119 g/km CO2) and an extremely low average fuel consumption (4.5 litres per hundred kilometres). Compared to the previous model of the same power, fuel consumption was reduced by 0.7 litre.
      The 2.0 TDI was adopted from the previous generation of the Golf Estate; it also has a highly advanced common rail direct injection system. The 140 PS strong and 210 km/h fast Golf Estate 2.0 TDI consumes 5.0 litre (132 g/km CO2), which is impressively low considering its power. The TDI engines may be ordered together with any of the three equipment versions.
      As already noted, the gasoline engines of the Golf Estate have power levels of 80 PS (MPI), 102 PS (MPI), 122 PS (TSI) and 160 PS (TSI). The base engine with 80 PS is available with the Trendline equipment line; the 102-PS version may be ordered as a Golf Estate Trendline or Golf Estate Comfortline. The TSI engines can each be ordered together with the Comfortline or Highline equipment versions.
      Just how efficiently the current gasoline engines from Volkswagen perform is well-illustrated by the TSI. Its 6.3 litre (122 PS) and 6.4 litre (160 PS) fuel consumption values place their average fuel consumption on par with the already economical base engine with 80 PS. When shifted by a DSG transmission, fuel consumption is even reduced to 6.0 litres per 100 kilometres (139 g/km CO2) on the 122-PS TSI and 6.1 litres (143 g/km CO2) on the 160-PS version. With this engine lineup, the new Golf Estate is one of the most economical and cleanest estate cars in Europe.
      * = Prices and features apply to models offered in Germany





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      I'm definitely loving the smoked headlights...and VW leather seats are
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      05-21-2009 12:48 PM #3
      Let me guess, not coming to the U.S.??
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      05-21-2009 12:57 PM #4
      what the heck does PS mean?? can someone please translate the hp's and mpg's??? thanks!
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    5. 05-21-2009 01:22 PM #5
      Quote, originally posted by MeineFolks’wagen »
      Let me guess, not coming to the U.S.??

      Since I believe all of these are produced in Mexico, we will probably at least see the body and interior changes. I'm hoping we don't drop the 2.0T, as I'm planning on upgrading to an SEL next year.
      And By the way, PS is a german non-standard metric unit which is roughly equivalent to horsepower. I got the exact conversion from wikipedia:
      Pferdestärke = horse strength
      1 PS = 75 kilopond-meters per second
      (75 kp·m/s)×(9.80665 N/kp) = 735.49875 N·m/s ≈ 735.5 N·m/s ≈ 735.5 W ≈ 0.7355 kW ≈ 0.98632 hp (SAE)

      Edit: I think I'm going to get a GOLF badge for the back, just to screw with the locals.


      Modified by NeoAtreides at 6:24 PM 5-21-2009

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      05-21-2009 01:47 PM #6
      so is this the jetta wagon with a golf badge???


      Modified by 2deepn2dubs at 10:48 AM 5-21-2009
      @captainsaveadub

    7. 05-21-2009 01:54 PM #7
      Quote, originally posted by 2deepn2dubs »
      so is this the jetta wagon with a golf badge???

      Modified by 2deepn2dubs at 10:48 AM 5-21-2009

      In short, yes. The "jetta wagon" and golf wagon/variant have been the same car for at least the last two (2.5 I guess) generations. This is the European model, so it will wear a golf badge.
      To make the terminology clear:
      "Variant" and "Estate" are other names for wagons, especially in Europe.
      The Golf IV and Jetta IV were identical, except that the US market model had the jetta front end (rectangular headlights) and was called a Jetta. Overseas, the identical car was a golf wagon or variant.
      The same is true of the MkV, and apparently the "MkVI".
      I get the impression that this is a facelifted MkV with the expensive rear end as opposed to a MkVI with the new simplified fully-independent rear


      Modified by NeoAtreides at 7:02 PM 5-21-2009

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      05-21-2009 02:04 PM #8
      Quote, originally posted by 2deepn2dubs »
      what the heck does PS mean?? can someone please translate the hp's and mpg's??? thanks!

      Converting from l/km to miles/gallon:
      ((l/km divided by 3.78 l/gal) divided by 62 miles/km) = gal/mile
      divide 1 by the gal/mile number to give miles/gal
      TDI: 5 l/100 km is about 48 mpg
      5.3 l/100 km is about 44 mpg
      TSI w/ DSG:
      6.1 l/100km is about 38 mpg
      Not sure is this a combined efficiency rating or just highway, but a JSW TDI with 50 mpg out the door would be great. Those of us that drive a TDI everyday know that we can get at least 10% higher than the rating by changing our driving style. I am sure that VWOA will only bring the 2.0 l TDI but that should still be capable of 55 - 60 mpg.
      All we need now is the ordering guide.



      Modified by kjclow at 7:17 PM 5-21-2009

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      05-21-2009 02:12 PM #9
      i doubt it would happen, but 4motion and tdi please.
      when will vw realize that there's a big market for awd cars in the states.

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      05-21-2009 02:27 PM #10
      Quote, originally posted by NeoAtreides »
      Since I believe all of these are produced in Mexico, we will probably at least see the body and interior changes. I'm hoping we don't drop the 2.0T, as I'm planning on upgrading to an SEL next year.

      Good luck with upgrading to a discontinued model. The SEL was my top "just in case" car if something ever happened to my GTI to total it. I'd go looking for one right now. My backup plan shifted to a used A3.

    11. 05-21-2009 02:34 PM #11
      Quote, originally posted by Buran »
      Good luck with upgrading to a discontinued model. The SEL was my top "just in case" car if something ever happened to my GTI to total it. I'd go looking for one right now. My backup plan shifted to a used A3.

      The article focused on the european market. Since none (except the 2.0 TDI) of these engines are certified for the US, I think we will see the 2.5L and 2.0T continue.
      I hadn't heard that the SEL has been discontinued, just that the production for MY 2009 was finished. Are your sure?
      Anyway, I'll pick up the TDI if the SEL is no longer offered. Just wish they would put the MFD in the wagon as well as the sedan.

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      05-21-2009 03:22 PM #12
      Quote, originally posted by phaeton »
      This new facelifted version of the North American Jetta SportWagen will be available in dealers as a 2010 model "around" September of this year. The Golf VI itself should hit dealers at the end of September/early October.

      Finally, something that is going to be coming to the States...
      ...kind of makes more sense with the tails on the Mk5 Jetta wagon now.
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      05-21-2009 03:29 PM #13
      Quote, originally posted by NeoAtreides »
      The article focused on the european market. Since none (except the 2.0 TDI) of these engines are certified for the US, I think we will see the 2.5L and 2.0T continue.
      I hadn't heard that the SEL has been discontinued, just that the production for MY 2009 was finished. Are your sure?

      Just checked with Turbo Paul.
      Quote, originally posted by Turbo Paul, via instant message »
      Yup, S, SE, TDI. That's all folks!

      Thanks, Paul, for making me laugh!
      There is a DIY from maloosheck about how to install a full-MFA cluster if that's your real desire; personally, I'd also like to have HID (you can also retrofit this yourself) and Climatronic (ditto; but it's a REAL hassle).
      But yeah, I'd rather have it from the factory and warranted... at least, there's something you can do, though.

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      05-21-2009 03:53 PM #14
      Well, here are the 2010 Order Guides, released yesterday.
      These are just the first ones, and will likely still change some, and no, I did not blank out pricing, it is not yet released.





      I know the picture is of the 2009 face, but we are getting the facelift in this article, just labeled Jetta SportWagen, not Golf.
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    15. 05-21-2009 03:54 PM #15
      Well that's a disappointment... Maybe we'll get some additional options on the TDI for the new models in a year or so...
      The new wheels are pretty hot.
      Did you notice:
      SE: "Highline instrument Cluster:
      TDI trim=SE + Multi-function steering wheel. Maybe we'll get the MFD after all.




      Modified by NeoAtreides at 9:05 PM 5-21-2009

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      05-21-2009 04:50 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by NeoAtreides »
      Well that's a disappointment... Maybe we'll get some additional options on the TDI for the new models in a year or so...
      The new wheels are pretty hot.
      Did you notice:
      SE: "Highline instrument Cluster:
      TDI trim=SE + Multi-function steering wheel. Maybe we'll get the MFD after all.

      That is what it says, which is very cool. They have been pushing for this. [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
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    17. 05-21-2009 05:31 PM #17
      Thank the lord VW is moving away from the over chromed front end they put on all of their fifth generation cars!!!
      After seeing how great the net 6 generation Golf looked I was hoping that would cross over to the Jetta as well, and it looks like it just might.

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      05-21-2009 06:00 PM #18
      Quote, originally posted by SxAxSx »
      Thank the lord VW is moving away from the over chromed front end they put on all of their fifth generation cars!!!
      After seeing how great the net 6 generation Golf looked I was hoping that would cross over to the Jetta as well, and it looks like it just might.

      I'm guessing a Jetta VI will take the theme from this estate then, in the sense that the Cabrio 3.5 had the MkIII chassis with a MkIV front end
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    19. 05-21-2009 08:42 PM #19
      Well, keep the price about the same and I'd buy one.

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      05-22-2009 01:08 AM #20
      This is a nice update of the Sportwagen styling. One thing I have been wondering, what is the status of the Passat wagons in the U.S.? I haven't heard anything recently about new models etc. Any chance of a TDI Passat sometime soon?

    21. 05-22-2009 09:43 AM #21
      I'm getting the distinct impression that the Passat is seriously out of favor, at least in the US. I mean, the only real options left are wagon v. sedan, and colors. There's no V6, no directional bi-xenons, no leather interior... but you can get the high-def body kit! Yeah!
      ...and not even a whisper of the next model. I think the "Kentucky Jetta" is going to replace both the Jetta and Passat (as far as traditional sedans), with the CC and it's stupid roof at the top of the line. That may change later, but I think that's the next couple of years.


      Modified by NeoAtreides at 3:27 PM 5-22-2009

    22. 05-22-2009 10:17 AM #22
      Thanks Paul!
      So it looks like no power adjustable seat(s), no Dynaudio, no Xenon's, MarkV door cards, limited wheel options vs 2009.
      For the Golf TDI, can we get power adjustable seats and xenons?

    23. 05-22-2009 11:44 AM #23
      To, this is coming to the US, as in... for real. Like... we're not getting f*cked over by VWoA yet again? Seriously... this IS the new replacement we'll see in the US?
      I'm literally about to plop down for a TDI sportwagon / sedan, if this is the 2010, I'll definitely be waiting. The picture in the dealer order guide is of the current gen Sportwagen though...?


      Modified by ScottieDucati at 8:47 AM 5-22-2009

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      05-22-2009 12:59 PM #24
      Quote, originally posted by ScottieDucati »
      To, this is coming to the US, as in... for real. Like... we're not getting f*cked over by VWoA yet again? Seriously... this IS the new replacement we'll see in the US?
      I'm literally about to plop down for a TDI sportwagon / sedan, if this is the 2010, I'll definitely be waiting. The picture in the dealer order guide is of the current gen Sportwagen though...?

      Modified by ScottieDucati at 8:47 AM 5-22-2009
      Yeah I'm a little confused by that as well. You guys sure this restyled model is coming this fall? That would be uncharacteristically fast for VW.

    25. 05-22-2009 02:03 PM #25
      Quote, originally posted by 85GTI »
      Yeah I'm a little confused by that as well. You guys sure this restyled model is coming this fall? That would be uncharacteristically fast for VW.

      Keep in mind that the 2010 JSW is really a facelifted MkV, not a MkVI like the new Golf/GTI. As of now, there is no info yet on the 2010 Jetta sedan- it could look like the JSW, or come out later based on the NCS - who knows
      And yes, we (the US), will be getting the new JSW/Golf Wagen.

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