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Thread: USP Motorsports Fluidampr dyno results and testing.

  1. 06-05-2009 11:23 AM #1

    Below are the long anticipated Fluidampr dyno results as a follow up to the product introduction seen here. These tests were conducted on a 2003 GTI 1.8T running 93 octane fuel with a Kinetic exhaust manifold, gt3071r t3 turbo, je pistons, IE rods, and unitronic 630cc software. The test was performed on the same day, same car, same dyno. A 5 minute cool down was given between pulls.

    We started off with the factory damper on the car, and made 2 dyno pulls within 1hp of each other one pull is shown below as Stockdampr002, the blue line.

    From there, we shut the car off, turned the wheel all the way to the right and installed the fluidampr while the car was still strapped down on the dyno.

    Next, we made 2 pulls with the fluidampr installed. One run is shown below as Dampr003, the red line. We were shocked with a peak gain of 6whp and 9wtq. However, in the upper rpm range gains of 11whp and 10wtq were seen. We did not expect to see such gains on a car running around 350whp.

    Finally, to confirm the results we once again changed the damper with the car on the dyno. We removed the fluidampr with the car still on the dyno and installed the factory damper again. We made another pull and those results are shown below as Stockdampr003, the green line.

    Before and after Fluidampr horsepower test, displaying max values

    Before and after Fluidampr horsepower test, displaying run conditions

    Before and after Fluidampr torque test, displaying max values

    Before and after Fluidampr torque test, displaying run conditions

    Stock damper, to fluidampr, back to stock damper test, horsepower

    Stock damper, to fluidampr, back to stock damper test, torque


    These will be normally priced at $430 plus shipping. However, now until June 20th, 2009 we will be offering these to vortex members for $375 shipped within the U.S.

    Click here to order the 2.0T FSI damper

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    International orders please contact sales@uspmotorsports.com to place your order.

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    06-05-2009 11:26 AM #2
    Thanks for the results. I'm pretty sure you guys won't have any issues selling these dampners now with the proper test results to justify the cost. I will be getting one of these for my current motor build.

  3. 06-05-2009 12:14 PM #3
    great results

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    06-05-2009 12:23 PM #4
    I commend you guys for doing a before-after-before comparo. That's what I loved about Buschur testing the HTA82. Normal 35r dyno, HTA82 made more power, back to normal 35r and power went back down. Very conclusive.

    I may be getting one of these...MAYBE...depending on fundage at the end of the project.


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    06-05-2009 12:27 PM #5
    Awesome results!

  6. 06-05-2009 01:45 PM #6
    Would Never have Thought it would have done that well..
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  7. 06-05-2009 01:49 PM #7
    Thank you.
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    06-05-2009 02:24 PM #8
    What amazes me is that the are not even intended to improve hp, yet they have shown to do so. I hope people can realize that these are intended to keep your engine from harsh vibrations at high rpms.

    It is a mere benefit that they are improving hp.

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  9. 06-05-2009 02:32 PM #9
    Quote, originally posted by 16plus4v »
    What amazes me is that the are not even intended to improve hp, yet they have shown to do so. I hope people can realize that these are intended to keep your engine from harsh vibrations at high rpms.

    It is a mere benefit that they are improving hp.

    thats 100% correct even if it lost 15 hp i would still run one on my motors.


  10. 06-05-2009 02:46 PM #10
    you're beating a dead horse. the other thread's 4pages. it's pretty clear what this part is intended to do.

    Quote, originally posted by 16plus4v »
    What amazes me is that the are not even intended to improve hp, yet they have shown to do so. I hope people can realize that these are intended to keep your engine from harsh vibrations at high rpms.

    It is a mere benefit that they are improving hp.

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    06-05-2009 03:06 PM #11
    Quote, originally posted by screwball »
    you're beating a dead horse. the other thread's 4pages. it's pretty clear what this part is intended to do.

    Tell that to the 4 pages of BS

    Quote, originally posted by Chris@USP.MotorSports »

    thats 100% correct even if it lost 15 hp i would still run one on my motors.

    x2

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  12. 06-05-2009 11:38 PM #12
    Quote, originally posted by 16plus4v »

    Tell that to the 4 pages of BS

    x2

    that was the reason for the new post.


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    06-06-2009 12:02 AM #13
    Hey- very nice test. I'll be ordering one to test myself.
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    06-06-2009 12:20 AM #14
    looks like it made out of pvc the numbers are good tow

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    06-06-2009 05:40 AM #15
    Looks good

  16. 06-06-2009 09:13 AM #16
    with the bad luck we had last weekend with the factory crank pulley key way that broke we will now install this for next weekend event and test it..

  17. 06-06-2009 10:59 AM #17
    Quote, originally posted by autoxtrem »
    with the bad luck we had last weekend with the factory crank pulley key way that broke we will now install this for next weekend event and test it..

    the timing belt gear key way? been there done that once.

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  18. 06-06-2009 11:58 AM #18
    yeah, lasted 1.5 year now ill change it change every 30 pass to make sure

  19. 06-06-2009 12:19 PM #19
    Quote, originally posted by dtcaward »
    looks like it made out of pvc the numbers are good tow

    That's the prototype.

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  20. 06-06-2009 02:54 PM #20
    Quote, originally posted by screwball »

    That's the prototype.

    No that's our supreduper light weight one.


  21. 06-08-2009 11:53 AM #21
    morning bump

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    06-08-2009 12:12 PM #22
    nifty
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  23. 06-08-2009 09:36 PM #23
    Quote, originally posted by theswoleguy »
    nifty

    Thanks man.


  24. 06-11-2009 03:13 PM #24
    not doubting anything so don't take this the wrong way but, why show dyno's ending at 7k rpm's when this is most beneficial and really needed for the guys going to 8k rpms and more?

    put up the ones that go to 8500 and higher

    for making this happen, as this could make for many more reliable high horsepower 1.8t's, revving to less than 8k can only make so much power with our displacements.

    just look at the every other manufacturers and there performance 4cyl build ups, i can't think of very many that rev to less than 8k rpm's when trying to make a lot of power and a fast car.

    Hell i know of a daily driven ls1 in a Camaro that has 8200 rpm rev limiter and nascar v8's turn as many as 9200 rpm's maybe a few more.

    Gotta be able to rev and be able to rev to make power and you have made this a whole lot safer and easier thanks to you and this company so a big thanks


    Modified by 50trim S at 12:15 PM 6-11-2009


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    06-11-2009 03:20 PM #26
    What kind of witchery is this?


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    06-11-2009 03:21 PM #27
    Quote, originally posted by 50trim S »
    not doubting anything so don't take this the wrong way but, why show dyno's ending at 7k rpm's when this is most beneficial and really needed for the guys going to 8k rpms and more?

    put up the ones that go to 8500 and higher

    for making this happen, as this could make for many more reliable high horsepower 1.8t's, revving to less than 8k can only make so much power with our displacements.

    just look at the every other manufacturers and there performance 4cyl build ups, i can't think of very many that rev to less than 8k rpm's when trying to make a lot of power and a fast car.

    Hell i know of a daily driven ls1 in a Camaro that has 8200 rpm rev limiter and nascar v8's turn as many as 9200 rpm's maybe a few more.

    Gotta be able to rev and be able to rev to make power and you have made this a whole lot safer and easier thanks to you and this company so a big thanks


    Modified by 50trim S at 12:15 PM 6-11-2009

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    06-11-2009 03:25 PM #28
    Quote, originally posted by 16plus4v »

    i love this smiley, but as if the damper doesnt show it doing its job by 7k lets rev it another 1k

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  29. 06-11-2009 03:49 PM #29
    Quote, originally posted by 50trim S »
    not doubting anything so don't take this the wrong way but, why show dyno's ending at 7k rpm's when this is most beneficial and really needed for the guys going to 8k rpms and more?

    put up the ones that go to 8500 and higher

    for making this happen, as this could make for many more reliable high horsepower 1.8t's, revving to less than 8k can only make so much power with our displacements.

    just look at the every other manufacturers and there performance 4cyl build ups, i can't think of very many that rev to less than 8k rpm's when trying to make a lot of power and a fast car.

    Hell i know of a daily driven ls1 in a Camaro that has 8200 rpm rev limiter and nascar v8's turn as many as 9200 rpm's maybe a few more.

    Gotta be able to rev and be able to rev to make power and you have made this a whole lot safer and easier thanks to you and this company so a big thanks


    Modified by 50trim S at 12:15 PM 6-11-2009

    The reason for this dyno was to show what a simple 350hp car can benefit from this damper, of course we are posting up a 8500 500+whp dyno. I dont have 1.8ts that rev that high and make that much power just ready for testing, I have about 3 cars that should be done in about 3-4 weeks, our 10sec 1.8t was sold a year ago.

    next up is our FSI that makes 600+whp and is now going to rev to 8500.

    Chris Green


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    06-11-2009 03:54 PM #30
    Quote, originally posted by Chris@USP.MotorSports »

    The reason for this dyno was to show what a simple 350hp car can benefit from this damper, of course we are posting up a 8500 500+whp dyno. I dont have 1.8ts that rev that high and make that much power just ready for testing, I have about 3 cars that should be done in about 3-4 weeks, our 10sec 1.8t was sold a year ago.

    next up is our FSI that makes 600+whp and is now going to rev to 8500.

    Chris Green

    pfft so last year man, 9500 or more and 1k hp or youre just another vortexer

    good work guys

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  31. 06-11-2009 06:04 PM #31
    just ordered mine

  32. 06-13-2009 12:10 PM #32
    Quote, originally posted by ryscorewell »
    just ordered mine

    thanks for the order.


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    06-13-2009 05:04 PM #33
    i see one of these in my future.
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    06-24-2009 11:47 PM #35

    What material is the Fluidampr made of? and what type of warranty does it carry?

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