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    Thread: 80000 mile service - Timing Belt Replacement

    1. Member JulianBenjamin's Avatar
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      06-16-2009 10:27 AM #1
      I know it's a big service item; I just wanted to know how important is it to replace the timing belt at that time? Is it worn down enough that it absolutely requires it, or is it more of a preventative measure?
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      06-16-2009 10:51 AM #2
      Julian:

      It is not preventive or optional maintenance. The timing belt is not that dissimilar from your serpentine belt in construction. However, if it breaks it is essentially time for a new engine. A broken timing belt means that valves and piston movement will be out of sync and since there is not enough clearance, valves hit the top of pistons and your engine becomes history.

      Keep in mind, when replacing the timing belt the water pump is also replaced as are many of the timing belt carrier parts.

      I have the same service in my future too and certainly don't look forward to it.

      Good luck.


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      06-16-2009 04:01 PM #3
      I've changed timing belts when I was an Audi owner, on my 1999 A8L and later on my 2001 A8L 4.2. The newer 4.2 motors engines are actually not too bad to do. If your mechanically inclined and have some tools, you can buy the timing belt kit from Blau Parts and do the whole thing yourself for a reasonable amount of money over a weekend. You will probably need to rent the cam locking bar and crankshaft lock plug, and the tensioner tool. But the job is quite straight forward. Yes - always change the water pump when doing the timing belt.

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      09-17-2010 10:12 AM #4
      Has any one gone over the 80,000 mile mark without replacing the belt and has any one ever had a timming belt come apart and "end" the engine??? At what mileage?

      Thanks, Mike

      First post, "new" owner.
      haven't even seen the car yet.

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      09-17-2010 10:37 AM #5
      Just had that service done in July. Even though I'm only at 38K miles, it was recommended to do now because of the age of vehicle (2004). Also, as the car is in a hot climate (Arizona), heat is a major reason as well... Serpentine belt, water pump, and all that stuff was replaced as well as all Liquids/Fluids, plus Alignment and so forth. Total cost was around $2,800.
      I wouldn't recommend doing this yourself!
      I've maintained my vehicle through the dealership since the beginning... but I'm thinking - for next service - to take it to an exclusive German auto shop that I've been told about.

      As for the extended warranty stuff, it did not apply, since it fell under 'preventive maintenance'.

      As with anything else with this fabulous machine, it's your Peace of Mind that comes into play here. Would never suggest to just keep going (after 80K) without having the required service done. You DO NOT want any of the Belts to fail on you... even with an extended warranty...(just my point of view)
      Last edited by george777; 09-17-2010 at 10:40 AM.

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      09-17-2010 11:19 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by seawind3000 View Post
      Has any one gone over the 80,000 mile mark without replacing the belt and has any one ever had a timming belt come apart and "end" the engine??? At what mileage?

      Thanks, Mike

      First post, "new" owner.
      haven't even seen the car yet.
      Mike:

      I've heard reports on the Touareg forums of 4.2l V8 owners going well beyond the 80k mile mark. One current poster brags of 150k and still on the original timing belt. Do I think the average Phaeton timing belt will last more than 80k miles? Yes. Would i go beyond 80k miles with my Phaeton? No.

      The only time i would risk going beyond 80k miles would be if I were in the process of selling or trading the car in the immediate future. Even then I would limit driving and be very "easy" on the car.

      Jim X

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      09-18-2010 12:41 AM #7
      I went ahead and did mine at 60k because my trans was being replaced. They had to drop the engine and trans to do it, so I asked the dealer if they could cut me a deal since it was so accessible at the time. If you have anything major like that going on, you may want to tack it on for good measure.

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      09-18-2010 09:17 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by george777 View Post
      Serpentine belt, water pump, and all that stuff was replaced as well as all Liquids/Fluids, plus Alignment and so forth. Total cost was around $2,800.
      I wouldn't recommend doing this yourself!
      I've maintained my vehicle through the dealership since the beginning... but I'm thinking - for next service - to take it to an exclusive German auto shop

      Took the V8 Touareg for the same service at 85K miles (same engine/trans, I think?) to an exclusive VW/Audi shop around here. Mostly Beetles, Golfs, and A4s, although I did spot 2 Q7s and 2 Touaregs.

      Since they already had the front of the engine open, I asked them to change the thermostat which added $29 in parts to the job. They included new spark plugs, but performed no alignment. They recommended to leave the transmission fluid alone, but did replace the brake fluid. $2096 + tax.

      I asked if they would take the P W12 in the future, they demurred.

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      09-18-2010 11:35 AM #9
      Yeah, my dealer recommended the thermostat as well, since it's hard to get to.

    10. 09-21-2010 03:35 PM #10
      Julian -- I just had mine done, at 92k, by Will Fielitz, a colleague of mine at Brookhaven National Lab, who does some VW work at home to pay for medical school. It worked out great and was a great cash price. He is a certified VW mechanic.

      By the way, the belt still had some life left in it.


      -Paul

    11. 09-27-2010 04:48 PM #11
      is it better to get it done at vw/audi dealer who doesnot specialise in phaeton or drive 150 miles to get it by phaeton vw dealer?
      ms

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