quick steering wheel question.

[TUV approved]

I have a 91 cab. and it has the oem steering wheel with the airbag and its big bulky and I wanna get rid of it. Im more versed with mk2's and know earlier mk2s had small spline like mk1 but newer had big spline. Since this car is a 91 does it have a big spline like a mk2? or still mk1 small spline.

Thanks

[tolusina]

It has both splines.

[Moljinar]

Good god, Ron's getting as cryptic as me in his answers.

What he means is the "big" spline is really a sleeve that installs over the small spline. If you remove the sleeve you're left with a small spline. We had a discussion recently in this forum (or the MK2 forum) about how to remove it. VW has a special tool for it.

[tolusina]

Quote, originally posted by Moljinar »

Good god, Ron's getting as cryptic as me in his answers. What he means is the "big" spline is really a sleeve that installs over the small spline. If you remove the sleeve you're left with a small spline. We had a discussion recently in this forum (or the MK2 forum) about how to remove it. VW has a special tool for it.

Hay, hey, cryp your own darn tic will ya??!!
This is what I meant..........


which pictorially explains what I wrote, that the car in question has both splines, not that it's got the miserable press on sleeve of some other models.

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The OP asked only about splines. He didn't (but possibly should have) ask what's involved in air bag system removal.
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Modified by tolusina at 6:12 PM 6-21-2009

[jachong]

Follow this thread if you want to swap your MK1 steering wheel, ignition housing and stalks to an MK3 setup:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1438306

I can pass you along the names of the Vortex members from where I got all the parts I needed.

Definitely is well worth the mod:

[tolusina]

Quote, originally posted by jachong »

Follow this thread if you want to swap your MK1 steering wheel, ignition housing and stalks to an MK3 setup: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1438306 ....

Does that thread ^^^ address air bag removal issues?

[jachong]

Quote, originally posted by tolusina »

Does that thread ^^^ address air bag removal issues?

Nope, the removal perse is easy, 2 allen screws on the side of the steering wheel and a couple of connectors. To disable the light on the dashboard I followed this page:

http://www.cabby-info.com/airbag_system.htm

[tolusina]

The double splined column shaft is too long for the turn signal cancelling cam and the horn contacts to work. The double splined shaft needs t get changed out for a single splined shaft, one horn wire needs to be addressed.
Click the link in my sig, scroll down to the air bag section for more details.
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Black_cabbie's old car that was used as the model in the stalk swap thread linked above was well known here as the Frankencabby. It was a real mix and match of a variety of different components from apparently random years and models. I KNOW that car either never had air bag components or they had all been removed somewhere along the line.
I KNOW because I shipped him the air bag components from my California market '92 to George in Belgium, he thought U.S. market air bag stuff would make his car more desirable/marketable in his Euro market.
Here's the page I posted for him, detailing the condition of my old stuff prior to shipment.........
http://reflectionsandshadows.com/george/

[jachong]

Correct, in my case I got the column from a 1987 Cabby (pictured left)

The ignition housing..

Stalks w/tails and cruise control came from a '98 Jetta 2.0 sans MFA...

It was a little intimidating the install at the beginning...

But if you take your time without rushing, is perfectly doable.

Everything fits perfectly. The horn was not a problem is a single brown/blue wire that color match with the stalks. I just had one wire without using from the stalks which if I remember correctly is green/white and is used for the rear-washer motor.

[TUV approved]

Thank you for all the responses I really think switching the wheel over will make the steering just a whole lot better with a smaller wheel