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    1. Member 5_Cent's Avatar
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      07-10-2009 12:28 PM #141
      Quote, originally posted by C2Motorsports »

      At this time, there is not an application for the '09 cars.


      As we had replied very early on in the thread......This is an R&D project with ongoing testing and development; we will not update the public with every design change or issue that we are experiencing. Once we are happy with the results, and the progress of the product, we will then release all pertinent information.

      my point simply was that everyone is jumping all over the cam train like 4 years old tearing thru a candy shop, I get that it's the first development for this type of product and that is great but i just find it funny people are all signed up without knowing any specifics about the product, or the stock cam specs for that matter.

      I am very eager myself to see the final results and welcome any new products to the market for the 2.5, god knows we've all waited long enough and it is time get some love. I'll have to stop by the booth and chat with you guys.


    2. 07-10-2009 01:47 PM #142
      Quote, originally posted by Lloyd Plumtree »

      I have ask a very legit question twice now without a real answer. REGRINDS OR BLANKS? INTAKE OR EXHAUST? If these cams are reground stock units with a lash cap to compensate for new base circle spec then the grind/profile will be much more limited then a new blank ground to spec. After flow testing the 2.5L head in conjunction with a very well respected engine builder we came to the conclusion a regrind would not be suitable for this application. I could move onto the intake or exhaust side of it but who cares right?

      x2


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      07-10-2009 01:58 PM #143
      Quote, originally posted by 5_Cent »

      my point simply was that everyone is jumping all over the cam train like 4 years old tearing thru a candy shop, I get that it's the first development for this type of product and that is great but i just find it funny people are all signed up without knowing any specifics about the product, or the stock cam specs for that matter.

      I am very eager myself to see the final results and welcome any new products to the market for the 2.5, god knows we've all waited long enough and it is time get some love. I'll have to stop by the booth and chat with you guys.

      Agreed. The best "homework" to do before purchasing a product is to do as much acquisition as you can to see if it the correct product for you; that is how we do things We are working at getting more Dyno data prior to Waterfest so that we may be able to share as much as we can.

      But then again, sometimes the RESULTS are enough for people, and I have to respect that too.

      Bottom Line: we will try our best to provide any/all information for ALL types of customers....



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      07-10-2009 05:04 PM #144
      what could happen if this cam and software were installed on a 2009? would the ECU just not accept the software?
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    5. 07-10-2009 05:43 PM #145
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      what would happin if you went to the hospital to get a blood transfusen and they gave you the wrong blood type...? I dont know either but just like putting 08 software on a 09 I sure the hell wouldnt want to be the one who finds out first hand...if it would work on a 09 I am sure they would market to 09's...

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      07-10-2009 06:03 PM #146
      man its awesome that so much different awesome stuff is coming out for the 2.5 shortly.
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      07-12-2009 12:17 PM #147
      subscribed, sounds awesome. definitely interested
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    8. 07-13-2009 02:59 AM #148
      Keep up the good work guys!


      Modified by mcsdude23 at 12:02 AM 7-13-2009

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      07-14-2009 02:14 AM #149
      Just want to clarify. So the program for the cams is separate from the 93 tune?

      So if I wanted 93 tune with cams + cam program is it $300 + $700 or just $700 for all of it?

      Also if the cam program is separate from the 93 tune can the cams and cam program be used with for example an apr 93 tune?

      Sorry if this has been answered. Great work C2!


      Modified by JAK-RBT at 11:19 PM 7-13-2009


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      07-14-2009 08:14 AM #150
      Quote, originally posted by JAK-RBT »
      Just want to clarify. So the program for the cams is separate from the 93 tune?
      can the cams and cam program be used with for example an apr 93 tune?
      Great work C2!

      Correct me if I am wrong but, the C2 cam and C2 93 programming will overwrite any other programming you have. in other words, your apr tune is history,you cannot have both...

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      07-14-2009 08:29 AM #151
      Quote, originally posted by darkk »

      Correct me if I am wrong but, the C2 cam and C2 93 programming will overwrite any other programming you have. in other words, your apr tune is history,you cannot have both...

      Im gonna second that


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      07-14-2009 08:48 AM #152
      Quote, originally posted by JAK-RBT »
      Just want to clarify. So the program for the cams is separate from the 93 tune?

      Correct

      Quote »
      So if I wanted 93 tune with cams + cam program is it $300 + $700 or just $700 for all of it?

      2.5L I5 CAM Combo includes both hardware and software
      $699 total (installation not included)

      Quote »
      Also if the cam program is separate from the 93 tune can the cams and cam program be used with for example an apr 93 tune?

      Answered above. They are not separate.

      Quote »
      Sorry if this has been answered. Great work C2!


      No apologies necessary. Thanks for the compliments


      Quote, originally posted by darkk »

      Correct me if I am wrong but, the C2 cam and C2 93 programming will overwrite any other programming you have. in other words, your apr tune is history,you cannot have both...

      C2 Combo will overwrite any existing software program.


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      07-14-2009 08:55 AM #153
      So for $699 you get cams and a 93 oct tune and cam program? If so that's an awesome deal.

      I'm really sorry if I'm being redundant and not getting the concept here but I'm just trying to clarify.


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      07-14-2009 09:17 AM #154
      Quote, originally posted by JAK-RBT »
      So for $699 you get cams and a 93 oct tune and cam program? If so that's an awesome deal.

      I'm really sorry if I'm being redundant and not getting the concept here but I'm just trying to clarify.


      Answered above.......

      Quoted from C2:

      "2.5L I5 CAM Combo includes both hardware and software
      $699 total (installation not included)"

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      07-14-2009 10:09 AM #155
      Awesome. Bye bye apr... Hello C2 : )

      Do you guys offer installation at your shop?


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      07-14-2009 10:21 AM #156
      Quote, originally posted by JAK-RBT »
      Awesome. Bye bye apr... Hello C2 : )

      Do you guys offer installation at your shop?

      Installation available at the local C2 Dealer: http://www.grossmantuning.com

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      07-14-2009 01:50 PM #157
      I think the nearest c2 dealer is in Pheonix, AZ which is six hours away? Is there anywhere else I can have it done? I really want a cam.

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      07-14-2009 02:23 PM #158
      these pieces would go nice with the C2 cam/flash
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      need to scuff and polish header...not the final look yet

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      07-14-2009 03:19 PM #159
      That is beautiful on so, so many levels.
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      It's gorgeous!! Sooo sick. What's that blue thing coming out the top of the seamless valve cover?

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      07-14-2009 03:38 PM #161
      An elbow fitting that they are probably using for their catch can system

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      07-14-2009 05:33 PM #162
      just curious as to how much low end power gets traded off and where the meat of the power band is with the cam on the stg 3 turbo car
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      07-14-2009 05:41 PM #163
      the cam/file added MAJOR low/mid range power...so i think on this it will pull some of that more evenly to mid-high end.
      we will see
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    24. 07-15-2009 12:09 AM #164
      Think we need to do a 2.5L Shootout/dyno day.

      GET SOME


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      07-15-2009 12:53 AM #165
      Quote, originally posted by Rob@20Squared »
      Think we need to do a 2.5L Shootout/dyno day.

      GET SOME

      how the hell did you do that? freakin sweet! lol


    26. 07-15-2009 08:10 AM #166
      Nice of you to advertise in someone elses advertisment thread.

      That looks terrible with the camo.


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      07-15-2009 10:04 AM #167
      Quote, originally posted by nothing-leaves-stock »
      the cam/file added MAJOR low/mid range power...

      Do you have a before/after dyno for just the cam/file vs stock. This sounds exactly what my wife's beetle needs ....


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      07-15-2009 10:22 AM #168
      Quote, originally posted by BlixaBargeld »

      Do you have a before/after dyno for just the cam/file vs stock. This sounds exactly what my wife's beetle needs ....

      as stated: the cam file and cam are a set. cam file cannot be loaded without the cam it was written for. you can however purchase the C2 87/93 octane program independently of hardware but it is still not the cam file program.the C2 programming does increase power throughout the rpm range. it also makes the car much more enjoyable to drive.eliminates the rev-hang and drive-by-wire lag.

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      07-15-2009 10:22 AM #169
      we have a C2 flash VS C2 cam/flash dyno

      we have been looking for a STOCK 06-07 2.5L to dyno and no one stepped up yet....

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    30. 07-15-2009 10:31 AM #170
      Can you post the # fot C2 flash VS C2 cam/flash ?

      Thx


    31. 07-15-2009 02:43 PM #171
      This is available now ?

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      07-15-2009 03:29 PM #172
      Quote, originally posted by darkk »

      as stated: the cam file and cam are a set. cam file cannot be loaded without the cam it was written for. you can however purchase the C2 87/93 octane program independently of hardware but it is still not the cam file program.the C2 programming does increase power throughout the rpm range. it also makes the car much more enjoyable to drive.eliminates the rev-hang and drive-by-wire lag.

      My "just the cam/file" should be translated to
      was just as nothing-leaves-stock wrote "cam/file" aka the cam and the file
      "just the" to without the intake and headers ....


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      07-15-2009 03:30 PM #173
      Quote, originally posted by nothing-leaves-stock »
      we have a C2 flash VS C2 cam/flash dyno

      we have been looking for a STOCK 06-07 2.5L to dyno and no one stepped up yet....

      That would do the trick for me .....


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      07-15-2009 04:30 PM #174
      Quote, originally posted by nothing-leaves-stock »
      we have a C2 flash VS C2 cam/flash dyno

      we have been looking for a STOCK 06-07 2.5L to dyno and no one stepped up yet....

      You just need a stock 07 rabbit 2.5 i have one i can lend to dyno if need be


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      im sent!!!!
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