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    Thread: Lugtronic 16v Update = 582 whp 430 wtq on E85 fuel

    1. 06-27-2009 12:48 AM #1
      Todd (turbodub)'s MK3 Street GTI is now running on E85 fuel, Bosch 1680cc Injectors, still daily driven on the Lugtronic ecu.
      Dyno runs here at ForceFed yesterday yielded 582 whp and 430 wtq:

      Same boost as before (35 dropping to 32 psi), and this is with a badly damaged turbo compressor wheel.
      Now running a T3 .82ar housing on the GT35R turbo. (*thanks Aaron)

    2. 06-27-2009 02:18 AM #2
      Amazing........
      I'm sure it could hit 600 on a colder day.........

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      06-27-2009 04:55 AM #3
      Doing it right [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
      It's still peaky though, but I bet it will be fun to drive down the track. Can't wait to see some #s
      Just outta curiosity, how's the timing map compared to C16?

    4. 06-27-2009 07:29 AM #4
      Thanks for the words. As you know, this is the car that was reeeeally gutless before with the T4 hotside. The combination of the T3 .82 and the E85 has really helped wake up the midrange, this dyno makes 40-50-50-50 whp more than the last setup at 5k to 6.5k, a significant improvement.
      This car has Schrick 276 cams, which are big for this power level.
      The cams could use some internal tweaking to optimize the powerband.
      We are waiting for a fresh turbo for the car so this was just to get by for this weekend, and to play with the E85.

      As with about every car that I tune, I'm sure there is more in it.
      We were about tapped with the boost, it was starting to fall pretty good to redline. But the timing was not pushed hard at all. We basically unstrapped the car without hitting any kind of wall.

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      06-27-2009 08:39 AM #5
      Hows the idle with 1600cc's?

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      06-27-2009 10:30 AM #6
      haha what took you so long?
      Quote, originally posted by 05JettaGLXVR6 »
      Hows the idle with 1600cc's?

      idle is good, bounces around a little. but still better than my friends a4 with tapp software

    7. 06-27-2009 10:46 AM #7
      Quote, originally posted by turbodub »
      but still better than my friends a4 with tapp software


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      06-27-2009 01:31 PM #8
      heres my brand new chra. does this make it a custom turbo now?

    9. 06-27-2009 03:36 PM #9
      ive been waiting for you to do an E85 car......Kevin u know iam next.
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      06-27-2009 04:57 PM #10
      nice numbers
      cant wait to get my PnP Ecu

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      06-27-2009 06:00 PM #11
      second my area gets e85 i'll be on the band wagon

    12. 06-27-2009 10:38 PM #12
      The idle is helped by the E85's need for more fuel flow.
      The Bosch 1680's idle fairly well, the problem area with these injectors is actually off-idle, low load low rpm cruising. The engines need for fuel drops and the injectors go into the range where they are very very non-linear, and the a/f is very inconsistent. Once thru this part, the engine runs very very well.

    13. 06-27-2009 11:29 PM #13
      So its not that great for daily,but on the track is the boombap ???
      Eny vids of this monster ??
      oh,forgot,great job [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

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      06-28-2009 12:58 AM #14
      Quote, originally posted by mcdub »
      So its not that great for daily,but on the track is the boombap ???
      Eny vids of this monster ??
      oh,forgot,great job [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

      unless youre used to driving a cadillac for a daily driver its nothing a vw owner cant get used to!

    15. 06-28-2009 11:17 AM #15
      Quote, originally posted by Kevin@ForceFed »
      Now running a T3 .82ar housing on the GT35R turbo. (*thanks Aaron)

      WOOT!!!! you know where it goes when you'ns are done with it. glad to help, like always.

    16. 06-28-2009 03:15 PM #16
      Quote, originally posted by turbodub »
      unless youre used to driving a cadillac for a daily driver its nothing a vw owner cant get used to!

      cadillac ftw,have you ever driven one of those ????
      lol
      sounds allot like my old build.well snail and head wise
      again [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    17. 06-28-2009 05:13 PM #17
      That things an effin street carr!!!

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      06-29-2009 07:48 AM #18
      sure is full interior, may get a/c back in the future

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      06-29-2009 10:38 AM #19
      Which A4 you talking about? Cause I dont have a massive air leak now so im idle is fine,
      but you did say "my friend" so I assume your talking about Paul


      Modified by DWI_gti at 10:41 AM 6-29-2009

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      06-29-2009 10:57 AM #20
      Quote, originally posted by DWI_gti »
      Which A4 you talking about? Cause I dont have a massive air leak now so im idle is fine,
      but you did say "my friend" so I assume your talking about Paul

      Modified by DWI_gti at 10:41 AM 6-29-2009

      no pretty sure its you! the same dik that left all the cluck u food open in the outside garbage for the raccoons to feast on last night and make a mess outside the house!

    21. 06-29-2009 11:07 AM #21
      you will clean that crap off of our lawn as soon as you get off of work or I will kindly transfer into the interior of your choppy idling A4

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      06-30-2009 12:57 PM #22
      Quote, originally posted by turbodub »
      may get a/c back in the future

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      06-30-2009 06:51 PM #23
      Quote, originally posted by Mark Morris »
      Sissy!

      get it right a sissy with no trans!

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      07-01-2009 09:10 AM #24
      Do I have to come over there and fix it for you in a parking lot?
      Life begins at 101 kpa ...and so does poverty--Lugnuts Calhoun

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      07-01-2009 10:27 AM #25
      Quote, originally posted by DWI_gti »
      Which A4 you talking about? Cause I dont have a massive air leak now so im idle is fine,
      but you did say "my friend" so I assume your talking about Paul

      Modified by DWI_gti at 10:41 AM 6-29-2009

      Not me, i no longer have that problem, and change your fuel filter

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